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my french level is only niveau 1 , but i guess it probably means we have to purchase at least one boost within every 3 weeks to sell/buy cards on market
lvl 1 stats: chars in batter suffer damage
lvl 2 stats: all living chars suffer damage
I am testing my new sap mages deck now, here is my deck list:
char:
[card]the hailwalker[/card]
[card]Keizen[/card] mage version
[card]spiritspeaker[/card]
spell:
3 root
3 poison
3 illusory reflection
2 in a hostile environment
2 magic attack
2 rain of death
action:
1 it is time
1 journey
1 storm
1 the hungry void
1 reborn
any suggestion will be appreciated.
Characters
Mellisandre
Ydianne
Keizan(Mage)
Action Cards
Three - Quick Draw
Three - Hypnotic Melody
Three - Scouting the Area
One - Obesity
Item Cards
Two - Wooden Bow
Two - Life Devourer
Spell Cards
Two - Rain of Death
Three - Magic Poison
One - Root
***ALL CARDS ARE MAXEDI am thinking of selling both RoDs and Keizan to fund another deck. Replacing Keizan would be his warrior version leaving room for 2 cards and any other fixes.
My question is how can I make this current build better? Will making the switch to Warrior version be part of making it better, and if so what changes should be made?
Currently the deck is solid, I've lost very few games overall and have trouble with the obvious Elfine matchups but am about 70/30 on those match ups thnx to RoDs.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated and thoroughly tested.
deposit money for hungry void, that is only I can suggest.
well, you might find some hints from another thread http://forum.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?id=12781
I painfully understand wamhu feeling, and support his suggestion. I am playing noz mages deck in tournament very often, did u notice lots of zil deck include one [card]Dark Stone heart[/card] which totally immune to spell, and this card never discarded once in hand.
you mentioned lv 4 Pilkim can powered by [card]Than the Sword[/card], it can be easily counter by [card]Diversion[/card] only 100 crystal in market which has same effect as hero card [card]reborn[/card]. I encountered many good zil players broke my chaining with this card.
I don't know y the zils designer hated noz mages so much, they have free-to-get [card]Diversion[/card] as well as [card]Dark Stone heart[/card]. While mages don't have same cards can produce the same effect ,like immune to physical damage, or set physical attk as 0.
Yeah a lv 4 Pilkim is needed to wreak them, but over all Pilkim on 1 or 3 turn with 2 [card]Than the Sword[/card] should do either enough damage to kill them or leave them open for a AoE spell.
hi, [card]cloning[/card] stats only play a playable card by your char. theft, look away dedicated to Marauder, right? so you cann't play them
Anihilate a écrit :Papa_Frita a écrit :i tried it myself and when Cloning picks Cloning, the last cloned card doesn't make the effect of such last card.
maybe it only works with spells (because of it's direct dmg), but didn't work with any of my action cards
What? The cards make the biggest difference, the cloning activations I mentioned called up Last word LB3, which is a MONUMENTAL difference to any action card, look at the ish screenshot. Where lightning bolts is, the third cloning was, the third cloning tagged The last word after Hungry void, and then the hungry void tagged Lighning bolts 3 at the end,the resolution goes Cloning>Cloning>Cloning>Void>Last word>Lightning bolts (level 3)
as i said, it's only good with spells. maybe not because of direct dmg, as you say that effect on your Last Word occurred, but probably because of some noz evil force.
but i am 100% sure it doesn't work on bunny, look away and theft, which i already tried.
Well, here we are:
Char:
[card]Erevent[/card]
[card]Councilor Ishaia[/card]
[card]Marlok the Repentant[/card]
Spell:
3 [card]cloning[/card]
3 [card]Burn in hell[/card]
3 [card]ice barrier[/card]
1 [card]Lightning Bolts[/card]
3 [card]Rain of Death[/card]
2 [card]The Last Word[/card]
1 [card]Win using Magic[/card]
Action:
2 [card]Overwhelming Victory[/card]
1 [card]the hungry void[/card]
1 Personal favorites
you might question me why using [card]Win using Magic[/card] instead of [card]The Last Word[/card], just for the case draw [card]Burn in hell[/card] at the first turn when def not built up yet.
Enjoy.
what is your card list?
Damn, I supposed to keep this secret
two days ago I thought about whole night to setup this new deck( at least I never saw others use before)
BASIC IDEA is fun and powerful. I gave the deck a name "unlimited recall" to use [card]the hungry void[/card] and [card]cloning[/card] to call AOE spell(lightning bolts lvl 3) multiple times, it was tested in tournament(see screenshot below).
the screenshot is I took down a fully leveled and armed zils deck within 4 turns:
I am lazy to list my deck, coz you probably can figure it out from screenthost. if you want, reply I will show u my deck list.
BTW, add me in facebook http://www.facebook.com/eliugan
Abom's stat is not scary, but his powerful weapon and deadly chaining, his attk can easily leap to 15/20 at the first turn with Assassination plus fist blade(very common case) while I don't know about eclipse, and in tournament seldom saw someone play with eclipse.
pekpekkypek a écrit :Poptolev a écrit :hmm my mistake ... I switched her effect for Malika's effect
still 10/12 is pretty darn high for a level 3.Hmm since eclipse got a boost this week I bet on Tsutai for next weeks release
but remember that Djamena has 0 defense, while Abom has 3(?).
Abomb doesn't have Solaris
i do not understand this award i have looked thru the list and cannot figure out what combo gives me all 4 of those classes please help if this is not a bug
It's just souvenir coz it's free
you mentioned mages deck may help a litter, actually mages deck is discarded more quickly than anyother type of deck because of high spirit
I suspected it was going to be broken horribly once it was built, and it is.
So, how do you counter a discard deck? A good one looks like it can go through your entire deck in 5 turns, 4 if they get really lucky. I know that ANS will fix it, but ANS is 200k, and that's assuming it doesn't get discarded anyway.
I know killing them fast will help, but the ones I've seen are chaining -6 attack, or Tada You're a Bunny or the like to make that nearly impossible unless you're playing a mage deck.
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Hi, it is me again! it happened at the last run when I supposed to give enemy a deadly attack, then I should win. BUT after I selected spells and clicked arrow icon, the screen frozen for a very shot time, then time bar still is green color, n lost arrow icon to confirm. I realized some craps happen again, and it happened when opponent knew he gonna lose the game, his name is "INDICA"
I getting to suspect probably someone trying to exploit flash weakness to intend interrupt network connection, coz similar cases happened many times in my history.
just for fun :
have no idea about noz dragon knights, I can give tons of opinions if you play noz mages.
hi , im here to show my new deck .
velentin lv3
zahal lv4
anryena lv2all is fair in love ... x1
...and war x1
draconian sword x2
dragon armor x3
dragon's wit x1
fallback x1
freeze! x1
ice barrier x3
illosory reflection x2
magic attack x1
the pen is mightier ... x1
...than the sword x3what do you guys think ? good ? +/- ? bad ?
thanks for opinion.
I apologize for my off-topic discussion, it is my last reply for this thread,
Just bought Ishaia with 220K,:D even cheaper than what I expected, now I felt what u said is correct, Ishaia's stats are awesome, I love her. LOL, actually it is easy to adapt her to my mages deck: [card]Councilor Ishaia[/card], [card]Pilkim[/card] n [card]Erevent[/card]
Melisandra a écrit :I supposed to stop here, coz someone suggest to me. Only simply final short comment on Ishia, I studied Ishaia's attribute, find out she is a joke, even not as strong as my [card]Pilkim[/card], it is a waste to put her into my deck. I already gave up to buy her. but don't worry, if you have Ishaia eager to sell. I think there still someone like to buy this beautiful souvenir,
Yeah, you don't play Ishaia for her awesome stats, but for the fact that she is a courtesan (:)) for 4 guilds and the +1 spell effect thing. Order activation is nice for long games. She fulfills a whole different purpose, Noz mages won't swap Pilkim for Ishaia and, if it were possible, court players wouldn't swap Ishaia for Pilkim.
Anyway, why necro this topic? We already have enough topics about overpriced cards.
I supposed to stop here, coz someone suggest to me. Only simply final short comment on Ishia, I studied Ishaia's attribute, find out she is a joke, even not as strong as my [card]Pilkim[/card], it is a waste to put her into my deck. I already gave up to buy her. but don't worry, if you have Ishaia eager to sell. I think there still someone like to buy this beautiful souvenir,
Melisandra a écrit :guys, i watched market everyday, Ishia's regular price just around 250K, but at that time I didn't want to buy. the lowest price of Ishia I ever saw is 100k, certainly it was sold out quickly, BUT the un-foil Ishia never went up to 300K !!!!!
IF YOU THINK legendary card should be expensive, you are WRONG, look at [card]Lady Yilith[/card] price in market right now, she is only 50k. even less than a fire ball, look at [card]foam giant[/card], it is around 70k right now, not expensive at all.
Kid, the price of card is not depend on rarity, but how many ppl need it. I think Ishia is not commonly needed card, so she doesn't deserve the price right now
First off, I love how you become condescending.
Second, I do not think legendary cards SHOULD be expensive. They just tend to be. And you know what, a significant part of it is just because they're rare. True, the need/demand for a card is a factor in its price, but that's not the only thing at work here.
Lastly, I agree with you that Ishaia is not commonly needed... if we are talking about the number of people who want to use her in a deck. But let's look at how many Ishaia cards are out in circulation and compare it to the number of people who want to use her in a deck, I'm betting more people need Ishaia than there are Ishaia cards. That's high demand and low supply. That makes for an expensive card.
guys, i watched market everyday, Ishia's regular price just around 250K, but at that time I didn't want to buy. the lowest price of Ishia I ever saw is 100k, certainly it was sold out quickly, BUT the un-foil Ishia never went up to 300K !!!!!
IF YOU THINK legendary card should be expensive, you are WRONG, look at [card]Lady Yilith[/card] price in market right now, she is only 50k. even less than a fire ball, look at [card]foam giant[/card], it is around 70k right now, not expensive at all.
Kid, the price of card is not depend on rarity, but how many ppl need it. I think Ishia is not commonly needed card, so she doesn't deserve the price right now
I agree with the suggestion to allow free players to sell like 1 card a week. That allows them to get better cards in a more reasonable amount of time. Also, paying players who have the crystals, and who don't want to work on upgrading, will have better deals on upgraded cards because there will be more to go around. Chances are, prices of these cards will go down due to the influx from the free players.
As for Ishaia... Come on, she's legendary, she's powerful, she's hot (especially at level 3). Is there ever going to be a "normal" price? I don't think so. The supply for legendary cards will never reach an amount that would drive prices down due to fierce competition. The only thing that makes these prices go down are: desire for immediate sales, human error, and philanthropy. I saw a Foam Giant for 30K last week. I wanted to kick myself for not having the money. It promptly disappeared in a minute. But that's life. Somebody wanted 30K fast, he got it. Other guy got Foamy cheap. Both parties happy.
Lastly, I wouldn't mind if there were ads in the game. Like during the time the crystal thing fills up. I mean it's a great game. I would want it to last long and improve. Am I willing to see ads on a regular basis? Yes, if it means helping the company raise the necessary funds to improve the game and take care of its employees... and if it doesn't interfere with actual playing.
pls allow me bring card [card]Councilor Ishaia[/card] to you guys attention. I just negotiated with one guy two days about price, and we made a deal, he would sell it as 260K on market. I earned enough money during two days, then came back to check market, they all gone, only foil card left, but price extremely high, around 460K.
I believe only a small group of people with special taste felt interested in this card, limited to countesan or mages, like me, I want this card just coz getting bored with Noz mages deck which is fully leveled and well armed, then wanna switch to courtesan.
btw, I will appreciate if someone can sell [card]Councilor Ishaia[/card] with regular price on market.
actually, you luck to face [card]bloodsword[/card] instead of [card]the shadow[/card] who has 3 spirit magic defence, n I noticed you able to case phoenix at turn 3, I bet it is ideal situation of pirate deck.
My noz mage ever had few chances to finish top Zil deck also, the first turn I lucky enough play with [card]Lightning bolts[/card] lvl 3, second turn the opponents' pick my [card]Prophet[/card], my [card]Pilkim[/card] had chance to chain [card]Last word[/card] + [card]the hungry void[/card] at turn 3, there was [card]the shadow[/card] surviving, bu I had two characters left, I finished shadow at turn 4. But this situation rarely happened, same as your story.
I am discussing about general case.
http://oi52.tinypic.com/72u5qb.jpg
not that it matters but ... 3rd round ... and the opponent had foil abomination .. and my captain was lvl 2 ...
All is fair in love... by itself gives +3 or +3/+0? please check it again. I ever played with this card very often.
Melisandra a écrit :[card]All is fair in love...[/card] + [card]...and War.[/card] gives 2-3 maximum attk bouns
[card]The pen is mightier...[/card] + [card]...Than the sword[/card] how many bonus it can give so far? defend on spirit. I don't think anyone has 6-8 spirits.Okugi a écrit :[card]Time to Die[/card] + [card]Assassination[/card] = 6-8 attack
[card]Assassination[/card] + [card]Assassination[/card] = 6-8 attack
[card]All is fair in love...[/card] + [card]...and War.[/card] = 5-6 attack
[card]The pen is mightier...[/card] + [card]...Than the sword[/card] = 3-NO LIMIT attack
[card]Bragan[/card] + [card]Fiery Sword[/card] = 3-(I just did one for 12) attackI'm sure there are plenty more comboes that are in the same area. Just have to take a look through the cards, assassination is not overly powered, there are plenty of other cards that can reach higher amounts of attack.
Did you read the cards? [card]All is fair in love...[/card] by itself gives +3 to attack, it chains to [card]...and War.[/card] which gives an additional +2-3, for a total of 5-6 attack.
[card]The pen is mightier...[/card] gives +1-2 spirit. [card]...Than the sword[/card] adds your spirit to you your attack and adds one. Mages start with 2-3 spirit. Let's take [card]Pilkim[/card], basic level one version, has 2 spirit, adds 1 spirit on certain levels. Against a warrior or marauder that's +6 to attack. Stick a [card]Mystic Staff[/card] and it's another +2 attack, a [card][/card] or [card][/card] which are also common in mage decks, which are an additional +1 attack each, and then let Pilkim level up some, so he has +2 to his spirit instead... so we now have a pilkim sitting at 8 spirit, dropping a pen is mightier and than the sword, giving him a +11 to his attack. And while this may sound far fetched, it is extremely common in mage decks to have all their mages with 4-8 spirit.
How many times we are killed at the first turn by the chain [card]Abomination[/card] + [card]Time to die[/card] + [card]Assassination[/card] or even [card]Assassination[/card] + [card]fist dagger[/card]
Power creep syndrome ... soon we'll win/lose the battle before it's even started (or in a better case - in turn 1)
mages base attk is too litter compare with zils
What about Pilkim + The Last X (choose one) + Than the sword ?
[card]All is fair in love...[/card] + [card]...and War.[/card] gives 2-3 maximum attk bouns
[card]The pen is mightier...[/card] + [card]...Than the sword[/card] how many bonus it can give so far? defend on spirit. I don't think anyone has 6-8 spirits. we could play last word to boost spirit, bu considering about very tiny printed attk of mages, the total attk much less than zils warriors.
[card]Time to Die[/card] + [card]Assassination[/card] = 6-8 attack
[card]Assassination[/card] + [card]Assassination[/card] = 6-8 attack
[card]All is fair in love...[/card] + [card]...and War.[/card] = 5-6 attack
[card]The pen is mightier...[/card] + [card]...Than the sword[/card] = 3-NO LIMIT attack
[card]Bragan[/card] + [card]Fiery Sword[/card] = 3-(I just did one for 12) attackI'm sure there are plenty more comboes that are in the same area. Just have to take a look through the cards, assassination is not overly powered, there are plenty of other cards that can reach higher amounts of attack.