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#1 23-11-2012 15:01:28

kmilea
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November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

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Tournament of the Million - Treachery

Crystals thunder is rumbling louder and louder!! Another 1 million crystals at stake this weekend!!

Dates:

From now on and until Sunday November 25th at 8:00 PM (French time).

Restrictions

Format: 3 characters + 20 to 50 Cards.

At the start of the game you have one chance out of two to have to exchange your deck with your opponent's.

Banned cards:

Ourenos, (all evolutions), Scragh. Lost Scroll from Kan-del

Rewards:

Open your eyes because the reward is exceptional! At least 1 million crystals will be distributed to the gamers!

1rst: 125.000 Cx guaranteed + 1250 Cx per registration beyond the 100th registration.
2nd: 85.000 CX guaranteed + 850 Cx per registration beyond the 100th registration.
3rd and 4th: 55.000 CX guaranteed + 550 Cx per registration beyond the 100th registration.
from the 5th to the 8th: 25.000 CX guaranteed + 250 Cx per registration beyond the 100th registration.
from the 9th to the 16th: 10.000 CX guaranteed + 100 Cx per registration beyond the 100th registration.

500.000 crystals will be shared between the gamers of the first third, with a fix value of 5.000 crystals per person if there are more than 100 registrations in this tournament.

Registration Fee

Registration: 10.000 crystals or 400 Fee'z

Good luck to all of you, may good fortune be with you!!

Enjoy the game!


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#2 23-11-2012 21:39:41

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Re : November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

so does the deck switch actually hapen AT ALL i built an entire deck around this concept played 10 games and it hasnt switched once


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#3 23-11-2012 21:46:34

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Re : November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

Going to be hard to notice the switching because everyone plays the same decks.

tongue


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#4 23-11-2012 21:46:48

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Re : November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

please give me back my 10k you made me waste with a false concept. IGN KEYBO because right now all im doing is losing and i couldve done that in amnezy tounrey for free this is ridiculous. 50% chance my ass.


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#5 23-11-2012 22:52:42

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Re : November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

Keybo1 a écrit :

please give me back my 10k you made me waste with a false concept. IGN KEYBO because right now all im doing is losing and i couldve done that in amnezy tounrey for free this is ridiculous. 50% chance my ass.

How is the concept false?  It says you have a one in two chance (That's 50%) that the decks will switch.  It's not Eredan's fault that you haven't gotten your decks switched yet.  That's just how the odds work.


"Some say there's no subtly to destruction.  You know what?  They're dead." ~ Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

"One footstep among many is silent.  One footstep alone is deafening."


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#6 23-11-2012 23:02:21

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Re : November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

MrLordi92 a écrit :
Keybo1 a écrit :

please give me back my 10k you made me waste with a false concept. IGN KEYBO because right now all im doing is losing and i couldve done that in amnezy tounrey for free this is ridiculous. 50% chance my ass.

How is the concept false?  It says you have a one in two chance (That's 50%) that the decks will switch.  It's not Eredan's fault that you haven't gotten your decks switched yet.  That's just how the odds work.

He played 10 times and not one time his deck got swapped does mean...

1/2^10 = 1/1024 = 0.0009765625
The chance is around 0,1 % that this happened.
But hey I would never pay for this kind of events.

Dernière modification par Sereaphim (23-11-2012 23:24:39)


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#7 24-11-2012 07:07:14

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Re : November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

Sereaphim a écrit :
MrLordi92 a écrit :
Keybo1 a écrit :

please give me back my 10k you made me waste with a false concept. IGN KEYBO because right now all im doing is losing and i couldve done that in amnezy tounrey for free this is ridiculous. 50% chance my ass.

How is the concept false?  It says you have a one in two chance (That's 50%) that the decks will switch.  It's not Eredan's fault that you haven't gotten your decks switched yet.  That's just how the odds work.

He played 10 times and not one time his deck got swapped does mean...

1/2^10 = 1/1024 = 0.0009765625
The chance is around 0,1 % that this happened.
But hey I would never pay for this kind of events.

It's theoretically possible every game he plays won't switch his decks.  All your equation proved is he's extremely unlucky.


"Some say there's no subtly to destruction.  You know what?  They're dead." ~ Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

"One footstep among many is silent.  One footstep alone is deafening."


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#8 24-11-2012 17:27:05

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Re : November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

MrLordi92, it's very easy for Eredan to ensure an average "luck".

Option A:
You have 50% chance of swapping decks.
Did the swap happen? Chance reduced to 1/3.
- It happened again? Chance reduced to 1/4.
It didn't happen? Chance increased to 2/3.
- It didn't happen again? Chance increased to 3/4.

Option B:
You have 50% chance of swapping decks.
If you don't swap decks for X times in a row, next time is automatic swap.
If you swap decks for X times in a row, next time it won't swap no matter what.
If player A has chance to automatic swap, and player B has chance to automatically not swap, the normal 50% chance is used.

There.
Either of the above options would make chance based games that are meant to be fun actually do what they're meant to do SOME of the time.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (24-11-2012 17:27:19)


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#9 24-11-2012 20:49:09

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Re : November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

Nurvus a écrit :

MrLordi92, it's very easy for Eredan to ensure an average "luck".

Option A:
You have 50% chance of swapping decks.
Did the swap happen? Chance reduced to 1/3.
- It happened again? Chance reduced to 1/4.
It didn't happen? Chance increased to 2/3.
- It didn't happen again? Chance increased to 3/4.

Option B:
You have 50% chance of swapping decks.
If you don't swap decks for X times in a row, next time is automatic swap.
If you swap decks for X times in a row, next time it won't swap no matter what.
If player A has chance to automatic swap, and player B has chance to automatically not swap, the normal 50% chance is used.

There.
Either of the above options would make chance based games that are meant to be fun actually do what they're meant to do SOME of the time.


Option A: Player a: has swapped decks 2 times in a row, player b: hasn't swapped decks 2 times in a row....would they just cancel each other out?  >.>

same thing with option B: >.> just saying...


=P


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#10 25-11-2012 01:16:33

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Re : November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

I did mention it on option B.
No need to mention on option A as it's obvious it cancels each other out.

The fractions I used as an example might not be exactly that.

It would be more like:
If you keep swapping -> 1/2 -> 1/3 -> 1/4 -> 1/5 -> 1/6
If you never swap -> 1/2 -> 2/3 -> 3/4 -> 4/5 -> 5/6

The odds might be (Player A's chance + Player B's chance) divided by 2.

So if player A swapped 4 times in a row and Player B didn't swap 4 times in a row, it's (1/6 + 5/6) / 2 = 1/2 = normal chance.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (25-11-2012 01:18:54)


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#11 25-11-2012 05:54:47

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Re : November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

Nurvus a écrit :

-Text-

Sure, it's easy for them to ensure it.  Do they?  According to Keybo1, they don't.


"Some say there's no subtly to destruction.  You know what?  They're dead." ~ Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

"One footstep among many is silent.  One footstep alone is deafening."


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#12 25-11-2012 14:52:11

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Re : November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

Wich means they don't because they won't, not because they can't.
This is me criticizing Feerik, in case you didn't realize yet.


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#13 26-11-2012 05:42:00

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Re : November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

Nurvus a écrit :

Wich means they don't because they won't, not because they can't.
This is me criticizing Feerik, in case you didn't realize yet.

Not really.  I'm known for not reading your entire posts.


"Some say there's no subtly to destruction.  You know what?  They're dead." ~ Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

"One footstep among many is silent.  One footstep alone is deafening."


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#14 26-11-2012 06:28:22

MerlinCross
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Re : November 23rd: Tournament of the Million - Treachery

Personally, with such an odd gimmick I would think that they would have it set up to trigger more often. Because, by all of math's logic, someone can play the entire not and not have it trigger.


Adventure mode - made to have players try new decks. But Bosses are unbeatable.


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