Must've been drunk when they put [card]Fabulous destiny[/card]'s effect. I mean beside adding 4 defense it heals into full health most of the time.
Solution:
-Banish (rarely used)
-Shattered destiny (also rarely used)
-Sentence (either if you happen to be an old player and get it or rich newcomer)
-Shadowblade (most reasonable from all solution)
-Dissidence (if you have initiative)
Any other way to counter that OP theurgy?

The concept of "rarely used" is moot.
The usage of certain cards fluctuates - it is meant to.

I'm pretty certain Feerik wants us to use more anti-theurgy cards when he designs powerful theurgies.

Fabulous Destiny, however, is ridiculous by all standards...
Some decks can afford to sport lots of counters.
Many decks cannot without ruining their strategy.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (11-02-2012 15:11:29)

Talamare · 11-02-2012 15:13:03

The problem is counter cards only counter a certain card

Yes Sentence destroys a heal, but if the enemy never uses a heal then 5% of your deck was 100% useless

This compiles with the fact that we need to include counters for other things like items and permanent actions...

Nessaj · 11-02-2012 15:26:05

Its somekind weird for example, to coutner a theurgy with an eliminehantation for example, since I pay 6 hp (almost 50% of my health).

I really hope those cards get fixed. 4 def + heal is a lot OP, it should be like +2 def only.

Dernière modification par Nessaj (11-02-2012 15:26:56)

Limestone · 11-02-2012 15:34:21

I really don't get it why eliminehantation cost 100% more health when dealing with theurgy.. With 3 hp toll will even allow you to sleep with Chuck Norris, seriously

Talamare · 11-02-2012 16:03:50

Limestone a écrit :

I really don't get it why eliminehantation cost 100% more health when dealing with theurgy.. With 3 hp toll will even allow you to sleep with Chuck Norris, seriously

because demons cant touch something holy

Limestone · 11-02-2012 16:16:32

Talamare a écrit :

Limestone a écrit :
I really don't get it why eliminehantation cost 100% more health when dealing with theurgy.. With 3 hp toll will even allow you to sleep with Chuck Norris, seriously
because demons cant touch something holy

Good point there but Zil priest doesn't look a little bit holy to me, I mean look at their power.. Blackmailing and something like vodoo 'Vicious circle'. About their appearance I give no further comment.

Nurvus · 11-02-2012 16:33:09

Theurgy is related to deities.

Deities aren't necessarily holy or good.
Therefore, your point is moot.

The reason for Eliminehantation to cost more against theurgies is because demons aren't exactly the kind of deck that outlasts you.

Decks that outlast them will pwn them.
So they were given a bigger penalty for countering their counter.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (11-02-2012 16:33:30)

jackal19 · 11-02-2012 16:48:46

wow is this turning into a debate and yes demons can be hurt by faith so the reason for extra dmg to eliminehantitaion is theurgies are faith there fore it hurts demons more so it isnt all about outlasting XD

Dernière modification par jackal19 (11-02-2012 16:49:04)

EwokDan · 11-02-2012 16:58:22

jackal19 a écrit :

wow is this turning into a debate and yes demons can be hurt by faith so the reason for extra dmg to eliminehantitaion is theurgies are faith there fore it hurts demons more so it isnt all about outlasting XD

Demons are hurt by positive energy...theurgies aren't always positive. And faith can be negative also..faith in the devil/demons etc etc.

The extra damage is based around the fact that you are preventing the opposing character from healing..allowing you to kill them. Losing an extra 3 health is nothing compared to a kill (and possibly the winning one). Plus, if you're using ectasy the damage is increased to another opposing character, increasing your overall score.

EwokDan · 11-02-2012 16:59:29

New Demon Decks are basically Emos...harming themselves for their own benefit

Santuros · 11-02-2012 17:28:43

EwokDan a écrit :

New Demon Decks are basically Emos...harming themselves for their own benefit

omg hahahahahahaahahhaha that makes totally sense!

EwokDan · 11-02-2012 17:33:57

Wait for the next release from Zil..the Skinheads.

Item Other- Hobnail Boot

Causes the opposing characters testicles to dissapear. The opponent can no longer carry weapons are both hands are cupped around genital area.

blackwaltz · 11-02-2012 20:21:03

Talamare a écrit :

When I fight read that card, I hoped I just read it wrong
+4 Def + Full heal
Did the person who balances cards get fired or something?
Why are cards getting more broken each release

lol yeah, [card]Fabulous Destiny[/card] is too fabulous hope they put a cap on how much hp it can heal

Dernière modification par blackwaltz (11-02-2012 20:21:21)

IsawaAgawa · 12-02-2012 01:53:24

When I fight read that card, I hoped I just read it wrong
+4 Def + Full heal

Just a wrong translation : it's the number of YOUR cards in opponent's hand and deck.

Stormholt · 12-02-2012 06:07:27

IsawaAgawa a écrit :

When I fight read that card, I hoped I just read it wrong
+4 Def + Full heal
Just a wrong translation : it's the number of YOUR cards in opponent's hand and deck.

Dude,it doesent matter,it does 4 defense+heal,small heal,but a heal.Too much OP cards for too little time.

goscar · 12-02-2012 17:31:56

Yeah it's fine now that I fully understand the card.

Anihilate · 12-02-2012 17:44:47

Stormholt a écrit :

IsawaAgawa a écrit :
When I fight read that card, I hoped I just read it wrong
+4 Def + Full heal
Just a wrong translation : it's the number of YOUR cards in opponent's hand and deck.
Dude,it doesent matter,it does 4 defense+heal,small heal,but a heal.Too much OP cards for too little time.

Only 5 characters can use it, and if you play it before you put Sarcastics or other fabulous into their deck, it heals nothing. It isn't that bad, and it'd make mirror matches hilarious.

walaylisz · 12-02-2012 20:53:59

Stormholt a écrit :

IsawaAgawa a écrit :
When I fight read that card, I hoped I just read it wrong
+4 Def + Full heal
Just a wrong translation : it's the number of YOUR cards in opponent's hand and deck.
Dude,it doesent matter,it does 4 defense+heal,small heal,but a heal.Too much OP cards for too little time.

I'ts just +4 defense and restricted to Priest/Zil only and once in a blue moon heals 1 to 2 health.You guys need to stop crying about things like this lol.

Gent M · 12-02-2012 21:34:04

walaylisz a écrit :

Stormholt a écrit :
IsawaAgawa a écrit :
Just a wrong translation : it's the number of YOUR cards in opponent's hand and deck.
Dude,it doesent matter,it does 4 defense+heal,small heal,but a heal.Too much OP cards for too little time.
I'ts just +4 defense and restricted to Priest/Zil only and once in a blue moon heals 1 to 2 health.You guys need to stop crying about things like this lol.

Many people comment without even trying the card.

Anyway does anyone know what is up with the Mythical version of Alyce? Can we get it in boosters?

CAPTUSA · 12-02-2012 23:24:22

EwokDan a écrit :

New Demon Decks are basically Emos...harming themselves for their own benefit

Wurddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd, Lmgao!

CAPTUSA · 12-02-2012 23:26:23

blackwaltz a écrit :

Talamare a écrit :
When I fight read that card, I hoped I just read it wrong
+4 Def + Full heal
Did the person who balances cards get fired or something?
Why are cards getting more broken each release
lol yeah, [card]Fabulous Destiny[/card] is too fabulous hope they put a cap on how much hp it can heal

Wut u don't understand is, sure this card is good, but it can only be used once, unless you have 3 copies, because it goes to the opponent's deck!

EwokDan · 12-02-2012 23:28:13

Card is situational at best...but no matter...i just made 10k profit selling one I bought :-)

CAPTUSA · 12-02-2012 23:36:22

Innariel a écrit :

They aren't going to nerf it because it isn't part of the Sap Heart guild

Lmgaooo, Since multi-saps lost 2 living natures, i sold them and made a noz blast deck....so the fuck wut, sue me!

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