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#1 09-01-2012 23:38:15

Bmyarne
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Psalm underated?

So I was running through my head for some sneaky ways to play a I.H.A.S or a weapons at will deck just to spice my game play up abit. Then I came across Psalm (not quite sure how to link cards from in game). But with his ability to heal kotoba / sap heart warriors + his charater bonus to negate 2 magic damage throws some survivablity in your favor to slow play abit to sneak cards in your graveyard without trying to be op and force the anathematize. So Im interested to hear the pros and cons about this guy and maybe he can be worked into a tournament room deck.


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#2 09-01-2012 23:47:32

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Re : Psalm underated?

You want to play Psalm in an IHAS deck? You can't alter his attack...this fact completely negates the pluses from -2 to magic dam and healing ability.


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#3 09-01-2012 23:57:51

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Re : Psalm underated?

So teaming Psalm with Rargnor and Moarg playing items like amber spear and  Morning Star Weapon having purpose and bonuses from going from field to graveyard and playing Cacophony doing stabb damage with Psalm leaving a slick IHAS played on late turns for a team sweep defeats the purpose?


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#4 10-01-2012 00:01:07

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Re : Psalm underated?

IMO, yeah. His attack doesn't go up, his defence doesn't go up. IHAS card heals 2, and increases attack and defense dramatically for hom'chai. You have no need for a character that causes no damage in what is, for all intents and purposes, a damage based deck. I understand you want to mix it up, but that just wouldn't work...and that's why, in over 10,000 fights, I've never seen that line up.


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#5 10-01-2012 00:02:13

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Re : Psalm underated?

IHAS decks have 15 items and 5 action cards...done. 3 IHAS and 2 watcher...nothing else, that's what they do.


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#6 10-01-2012 00:05:52

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Re : Psalm underated?

Ok so what I am getting from your arguement is that it is not a "IHAS deck" but a deck with IHAS in it..lol


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#7 10-01-2012 00:21:44

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Re : Psalm underated?

The whole point of an deck with IHAS or WAW in it is to cause damage, not heal/protect etc. You want all three characters to inflict as much damage as possible. That's not gonna happen with Psalm in there.


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#8 10-01-2012 04:07:42

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Re : Psalm underated?

EwokDan a écrit :

The whole point of an deck with IHAS or WAW in it is to cause damage, not heal/protect etc. You want all three characters to inflict as much damage as possible. That's not gonna happen with Psalm in there.

I've seen decent WaW with Furagu,who is essentially Psalm on steroids, problem is I always carry a shifting sand/anathematize XD


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#9 10-01-2012 04:21:08

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Re : Psalm underated?

thing is that i hope to slow play it a bit that those pescky cards make their way into the oppents discard / ignore the signs all together

Dernière modification par Bmyarne (10-01-2012 04:21:44)


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#10 10-01-2012 04:47:54

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Re : Psalm underated?

Then hope you never play a deck like mine.

The reason it wouldn't work, your deck incorporates IHAS as a toolbox card, it isn't a glass cannon, and because you'll have other cards, it's wallop is diluted. If IHAS is your main damage dealer in a deck like that, it's ill afforded over other options.

If you want to make a deck that can use IHAS,but fairs well in most scenarios

Rockspeaker
Moarg/Rargor
Red Mark

3 Keeping it in the customs
3 Net traps
1 IHAS
1 Watcher

2 Amber Dagger
2 Butterfly Collar
1 Mask of Quercus
1 Amber Sword
1 Amber Spear


2 Arachnaphobia
1 Skin of Stone
1 Destructive Totem


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#11 10-01-2012 05:58:32

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Re : Psalm underated?

The set up I was looking at was:

Redmark
Rargnor
Psalm

Amber Spear x3
Amber Dagger x2
MorningStar Weapon x2
Skyward Boots x2
Idol of Life x3
Rosemary of Serenityx1-2 (playable by psalm doesn't get the demon hunter effect but acts as a watcher for ihas and adds an item to your discard , i had it tested and works.)

Totemic Launch x2
Cacophony x2
Items Have a Soul x2

Dernière modification par Bmyarne (10-01-2012 06:01:40)


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#12 10-01-2012 06:46:37

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Re : Psalm underated?

Bmyarne a écrit :

The set up I was looking at was:

Redmark
Rargnor
Psalm

Amber Spear x3
Amber Dagger x2
MorningStar Weapon x2
Skyward Boots x2
Idol of Life x3
Rosemary of Serenityx1-2 (playable by psalm doesn't get the demon hunter effect but acts as a watcher for ihas and adds an item to your discard , i had it tested and works.)

Totemic Launch x2
Cacophony x2
Items Have a Soul x2

1st: just in case you didn't notice, IHAS only counts each DIFFERENT item in your discard pile, so in general your deck would only  have 6 different items (and thats not counting the fact that amber dagger would attach itself to your opponent)

and also what sounds good on paper might not be great in actual battle. Psalm might seem good on defense,but on the offense side he is next to nothing. Also the fact that an IHAS deck focuses on fast hit while cacophony tactics focuses on slow and steady damage kinda makes the deck losing it's focus.

Also, IMO ,if I faced your deck,I would still relate it to an IHAS deck, since your deck is full of items, so I would notice once the 1st round is over and you discarded. So the part where you wanna make a deck that UTILIZES IHAS instead of CIRCLING around it is kinda not viable.


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#13 10-01-2012 07:49:17

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Re : Psalm underated?

Well damn there goes that bubble. I was under the impression that the characters would do enough "stabb" damage early on and have enough survivabilty to get those KO hits when ihas enters play.


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#14 10-01-2012 10:39:10

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Re : Psalm underated?

Bmyarne a écrit :

Well damn there goes that bubble. I was under the impression that the characters would do enough "stabb" damage early on and have enough survivabilty to get those KO hits when ihas enters play.

haha well at least you put in some effort to think about a deck that differs from what everyone else is using,albeit sllightly. So a Thumbs up for you for the effort! big_smile


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#15 12-01-2012 01:59:18

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Re : Psalm underated?

EwokDan a écrit :

IHAS decks have 15 items and 5 action cards...done. 3 IHAS and 2 watcher...nothing else, that's what they do.

That's the fail IHAS deck building that gets countered too easily.

A good IHAS mixes up.

Cacophony and IHAS doesn't sound bad.


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#16 12-01-2012 08:46:03

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Re : Psalm underated?

Psalm is also decent in an MMM deck


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#17 12-01-2012 11:08:23

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Re : Psalm underated?

whats a mmm deck?


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