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#1 20-05-2012 14:30:40

Nurvus
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Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

NOTE:
DO NOT MIND THE NUMBERS.
- The average time to decide could be higher.
- The # of games per reward could be higher.
MIND THE CONCEPT.
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The idea below is a group of Repeatable Trophies that envisions GREATLY improving the fairplay in Eredan.
It does this by encouraging players to be quick in their decisions and play games to the end (instead of quitting) through attractive rewards.

In this Trophy:
- You have an attractive reward
- You only get credit if you have NO fairplay penalty (the one that reduces your Cx & XP)
- It doesn't matter if you win or lose
- You must play the game until the end
- You must take less than an average of 10~15 seconds to decide.

- Any card rewards from these Trophies are non-tradeable

- Don't mind the numbers too much, just the concept.

Trophies (all of the trophies below are repeatable - yes, ALL)
- The Hasty - Play and finish a game where you take less than 10~15 seconds in average to decide each move (card plays, discards and selections). Repeatable.

Reward: 25 Cx

- Time Initiate - Finish "The Hasty" 10 times. Repeatable.

Reward: Random Common

- Time Apprentice - Finish "The Hasty" 25 times. Repeatable.

Reward: Random Uncommon

- Time Adept - Finish "The Hasty" 75 times.  Repeatable.

Reward: Random Rare

- Time Lord - Finish "The Hasty" 200 times. Repeatable.

Reward: 4-card Booster

- Time Overlord - Finish "The Hasty" 500 times. Repeatable.

Reward: 12-card Booster

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Example:
Assuming the above requirements & rewards, after completing "The Hasty" 75 times, you gained:
- 75 times 25 Cx = 1875 Cx
- 7 Random Commons
- 3 Random Uncommons
- 1 Random Rare
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Q: Why an average of 10~15 seconds per decision?
A: Some decisions can be super quick or made during other phases.
Example #1: You can decide what you're going to Discard while the cards are being played & the characters are attacking.
Example #2: You can decide what cards you're going to play while the character abilities, order bonuses and other effects are being activated.

Q: Why 10/25/75/200/500x "The Hasty" per reward?
A: Just an arbitrary number that felt right. Could be 20/50/150/400/1000.

Results:
- Players are encouraged to play fair (no quitting)
- Games will usually be faster, wich makes Eredan more enjoyable for everyone.

Don't you agree?

  1. You're a genius!
  2. I'd rather not.
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#2 21-05-2012 00:51:21

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

Such a bad idea, huh?

I guess people rather quit games.


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#3 21-05-2012 01:10:12

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

I like the idea!


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#4 21-05-2012 01:15:17

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

I like it too smile Look just like feerik just ou care about ELO, when we talk about Overpowered cards, time to play and these stuff.. They forgot that there's a lot of players who play on the normal rooms


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#5 21-05-2012 01:32:41

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

I'd also like to see if there's any changes with the fairplay if this was Implemented, albeit in my opinion capital punishment is more preferred big_smile


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#6 21-05-2012 02:55:45

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

i think 10 seconds are too rough... maybe 30 would still be fine because sometimes you simply need a moment to think or read what a certain card is doing... or in some cases calculate the damage for phenixflames or something...

but overall i like the idea to reward the players for playing fair... on the other hand sometimes its not even fair to pick up the fight because its david vs goliath and david forgot his sling...


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#7 21-05-2012 05:09:30

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

i like the idea


their will come a day when the Katoba return to being a threat to all other guilds. I await that day.


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#8 21-05-2012 10:58:39

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

I like the idea too. I'll talk about it.


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#9 21-05-2012 11:31:07

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

love the idea...
but if you wanna make this idea happen...
I would make loss by discard not counting for the trophy or else it would be too easy to farm cristals...

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#10 21-05-2012 12:07:39

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

skadooosh a écrit :

love the idea...
but if you wanna make this idea happen...
I would make loss by discard not counting for the trophy or else it would be too easy to farm cristals...

+1 on idea and +1 on follow up to prevent crystal farming.


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#11 21-05-2012 12:15:55

Calandra
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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

magius a écrit :
skadooosh a écrit :

love the idea...
but if you wanna make this idea happen...
I would make loss by discard not counting for the trophy or else it would be too easy to farm cristals...

+1 on idea and +1 on follow up to prevent crystal farming.

ye and how about we also prevent OP decks from crystal farming? every deck containing a legendary char shouldnt participate neither... and how about hand denial decks... they are too hard as well... so lets shut them off as well... and how about... and how about...

discard is not broken anymore since every single guild now has card retrieving cards or simply breaks them with enormous damage output...


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#12 21-05-2012 12:22:08

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

Calandra a écrit :

i think 10 seconds are too rough... maybe 30 would still be fine because sometimes you simply need a moment to think or read what a certain card is doing... or in some cases calculate the damage for phenixflames or something..

I understand, and that's why it's "average".
So if you take 30 + 2 + 5 + 7 + 3 + 6 + etc... you can get under 10 seconds average.

Maybe 15 average is more fair.

But 30 is too much.
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Remember, when the characters play their cards & attack, you already know what you want to discard.

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#13 21-05-2012 12:25:10

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

what i think skadoosh meant is when a person discards his hand willing to lose the game quickly


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#14 21-05-2012 12:42:48

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

There's no way to distinguish people that discard their hand on purpose, from people that discard because they need a certain key card in their deck.

Any measure against that will end up penalizing legitimate players.

And let's be fair, there are quicker ways to organize a crystal farm:
Winning Deck - Pretty much any Marauder beatdown, specially Zil or Narwhal.
Losing Deck - Weakling Lv1 characters like Flammara, Clover and such.
You win in 3 turns 100% of the time, no discards needed.

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The one thing Feerik can do regarding "illegitimate crystal farming" is be more alert and severe against bots and multi-accounts.
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I think the idea here is legit and the pros will FAR outshadow the cons.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (21-05-2012 12:45:27)


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#15 21-05-2012 12:46:31

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

that i agree with you nurvus


their will come a day when the Katoba return to being a threat to all other guilds. I await that day.


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#16 21-05-2012 12:56:10

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

Finnaly a good idea nurvus xD


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#17 21-05-2012 18:01:51

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

Seconded - excellent notion!


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#18 22-05-2012 15:45:21

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

I like the idea.  It would attract more people to the rooms for sure.


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#19 29-06-2012 19:40:38

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

Further feedback is welcome.


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#20 04-08-2012 15:41:25

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

A great idea. It would really encourage fair play (honestly, more often that not my opponent leaves when I get a lucky one-shot on their main character), and would make life easier for free players. And Feerik would not lose much money, considering how many games would be required for a booster.

And remember, dirty play leads to more dirty play. I bet that at least once, when you faced an enemy you had little to no chance of winning, you thought: 'How about I don't waste my time here, since people leave on me why should not I have the right to do the same?'


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#21 04-08-2012 16:43:44

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

D: this idea is fabulous.... Anyways there´s no way people will farm crystals xD unless they don´t have a life. It would be really cool, now i´ll talk bout me xD, i played this game the most ´cause Kotoba but some months ago i finished the 1300 fights... soi like to play kotoab but i can´t feel rewared to play so much with them but with these new fairplay stuff i could play lot´s of games with my beloved kotoba and get rewarded big_smile


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#22 04-08-2012 19:28:54

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

This is a superb idea.


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#23 04-08-2012 20:39:48

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

Damncaster a écrit :

D: this idea is fabulous.... Anyways there´s no way people will farm crystals xD unless they don´t have a life. It would be really cool, now i´ll talk bout me xD, i played this game the most ´cause Kotoba but some months ago i finished the 1300 fights... soi like to play kotoab but i can´t feel rewared to play so much with them but with these new fairplay stuff i could play lot´s of games with my beloved kotoba and get rewarded big_smile

I want to have more guild trophies >< just 1300?? most true fans said "So chick"


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#24 05-08-2012 00:56:02

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

karnoki a écrit :
Damncaster a écrit :

D: this idea is fabulous.... Anyways there´s no way people will farm crystals xD unless they don´t have a life. It would be really cool, now i´ll talk bout me xD, i played this game the most ´cause Kotoba but some months ago i finished the 1300 fights... soi like to play kotoab but i can´t feel rewared to play so much with them but with these new fairplay stuff i could play lot´s of games with my beloved kotoba and get rewarded big_smile

I want to have more guild trophies >< just 1300?? most true fans said "So chick"

yup i whant like 5000 victories xD


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#25 05-08-2012 08:32:53

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Re : Repeatable Trophy (Fairplay Reward)

Me too, 2500, 5000, 7500, 10 000 victories by guilds.


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