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#1 18-05-2012 12:29:15

magius
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Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

Before I retired this deck to obscurity, I would like to get some input from you guys.

Witchblades have been my favourite deck since I got the Noz starter pack years ago. But with the current meta and existence of other +Spirit cards and caste that is better in Physical+Magical damage (Demon Hunter, etc.), I wonder if there is any point to improve it anymore?

My current deck:
Anazra, Naya, Eglantyne & Moira

Item:
3 [card]Witchblade Armor[/card]

Action:
3 [card]Witchblade Trump[/card]
3 [card]Secret Weapon[/card]
1 [card]Time to Die[/card]

Spells:
3 [card]Dragon's Breath[/card] - I cannot find any decent damage spell for this slot as I am using Witchblade Armor and Trump.
3 [card]Rain of Death[/card]
2 [card]Light Blow[/card]
2 [card]Ice Shield[/card]

I wonder if Ylliana will make any difference (though her Spirit is low)?

Perhaps [card]Last Action[/card] and Lightning Bolt Lvl 3 will save the day?

I just dunno... I think they are quite outdated already.


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#2 18-05-2012 18:51:33

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

This is the deck im using:

Naya Ylliana Anazra

Chains:
3 [card]Witchblade trump[/card]
3 [card]Witchblade armor[/card]
1 [card]The Secret of the Crow[/card]
1 [card]Reborn[/card]

Other Cards:
3 [card]Rain of Death[/card]
3 [card]Sliding[/card]
1 [card]Artrezil's Heritage[/card]
1 [card]The Last Action[/card]
1 [card]Dissidence[/card]
2 [card]Mental Prison[/card]
1 [card]Break the second chain[/card]

I used to hate wb intensely, but completely fell in love with em after I actually used them for myself.

Secret weapon, while a good card, is somewhat a difficult card to build around and the relevant chains, light blow/ttd is a too clunky imo. in that they are useless with the other cards in the deck. If one shots are what you are looking for, RoDs do the same thing, usually more.
Your build seems to lack both the ability to kill out of play and to remove permanents which are crucial for any marauder deck. sliding for me has fitted in both roles perfectly. i really hope you try wb trump+ sliding wink
Double mental prisons basically rape pure mage decks, plus break the second chain ensures that you have a total of 4 should you need them

hope this helps smile

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#3 18-05-2012 20:32:47

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

[card]mental prison[/card] better den [card]neutralisation[/card]?


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#4 18-05-2012 20:48:46

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

Here, i done a blast, its on portuguese, but u can understand the cards:

http://forum.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?id=42467


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#5 21-05-2012 08:50:36

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

Interesting... I can see Ylliana is the way to go now. Gotta start saving for Last Action I suppose.


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#6 21-05-2012 13:11:41

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

magius a écrit :

Interesting... I can see Ylliana is the way to go now. Gotta start saving for Last Action I suppose.

Dude, the best combo i've ever seen is:

[card]Light Blow[/card]+[card]Secret Boots[/card] your character atack +5 the oposite -4...

Oh yea, and but first the actions, they're cheap, than you buy spells


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#7 26-06-2012 14:17:32

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

After a few more testing with this deck (even with Last Action), unfortunately, it still falls short of my expectation. Demon Hunter outshines it by far :

[card]Light Blow[/card] + [card]Secret Weapon[/card] is too combo-ish hard to get the pieces together.

[card]Witchblade Trump[/card] + something: Witchblades by far do not have Spirit high enough to exploit this card sad

And there are just too many decks with +Spirit cards. Will be waiting eagerly for more Light spells I suppose.

Dernière modification par magius (26-06-2012 14:17:46)


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#8 26-06-2012 14:29:42

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

magius a écrit :

After a few more testing with this deck (even with Last Action), unfortunately, it still falls short of my expectation. Demon Hunter outshines it by far :

[card]Light Blow[/card] + [card]Secret Weapon[/card] is too combo-ish hard to get the pieces together.

[card]Witchblade Trump[/card] + something: Witchblades by far do not have Spirit high enough to exploit this card sad

And there are just too many decks with +Spirit cards. Will be waiting eagerly for more Light spells I suppose.


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#9 26-06-2012 15:36:10

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

magius a écrit :

After a few more testing with this deck (even with Last Action), unfortunately, it still falls short of my expectation. Demon Hunter outshines it by far :

[card]Light Blow[/card] + [card]Secret Weapon[/card] is too combo-ish hard to get the pieces together.

[card]Witchblade Trump[/card] + something: Witchblades by far do not have Spirit high enough to exploit this card sad

And there are just too many decks with +Spirit cards. Will be waiting eagerly for more Light spells I suppose.

you are probably just playing it false.^^


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#10 26-06-2012 15:59:35

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

DaRkStAr666 a écrit :
magius a écrit :

After a few more testing with this deck (even with Last Action), unfortunately, it still falls short of my expectation. Demon Hunter outshines it by far :

[card]Light Blow[/card] + [card]Secret Weapon[/card] is too combo-ish hard to get the pieces together.

[card]Witchblade Trump[/card] + something: Witchblades by far do not have Spirit high enough to exploit this card sad

And there are just too many decks with +Spirit cards. Will be waiting eagerly for more Light spells I suppose.

you are probably just playing it false.^^

Playing it false? I'm not sure what you mean smile


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#11 26-06-2012 17:22:33

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

Witch Blade Trump could work well with Blade of the Witch, turning the 4 magical damage to 6. 

then again my decks don't have the price range to include three RODs


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#12 26-06-2012 17:46:04

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

scorvos74 a écrit :

Witch Blade Trump could work well with Blade of the Witch, turning the 4 magical damage to 6. 

then again my decks don't have the price range to include three RODs

it works well with [card]kollision[/card] smile

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#13 26-06-2012 17:52:47

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

you need to explain how you chain an AOE spell with wichblade trump (not using legendaries of course...)


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#14 26-06-2012 18:02:52

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

skadooosh a écrit :

you need to explain how you chain an AOE spell with wichblade trump (not using legendaries of course...)

then you could use second chain


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#15 26-06-2012 18:07:45

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

fair enough... ^^'


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#16 26-06-2012 18:35:29

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

Wait for tomorow, a noz update, surelly some WB cards wink


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#17 27-06-2012 15:56:39

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

You get it
upgrade for noz is compendium and witchblade


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#18 27-06-2012 21:42:34

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

wb still outdated

new bad counter, and nothing else


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#19 27-06-2012 22:14:32

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

Admittedly I will not use [card]Witchblade Secret[/card] as I think the counter is quite narrow and no extra benefit to your attack.

The only card I will consider is [card]Dexterity[/card] and [card]The Dance of the Blade[/card]. Even then, that will reduce Witchblades to mostly physical attack unfortunately.

Its hard to balance without any additional Light Spell for the Witchblade. So yeah... it will still lose out to Demon Hunters or Tsoutai which now have a decent Spirit score and versatility in physical/magic attack. Shame I think since Witchblade is the original concept of that sad


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#20 28-06-2012 02:52:12

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

WB is still good , well , don't compare any mid-tier deck to any "OP Super Star" decks which get changed every 2-3 months .


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#21 28-06-2012 03:36:28

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

give back what the witchblades been doing since the beginning of the game spell+attack plain and simple... not that hocus pocus mumbo jumbo...

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#22 28-06-2012 08:06:06

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

Cossette a écrit :

give back what the witchblades been doing since the beginning of the game spell+attack plain and simple... not that hocus pocus mumbo jumbo...

I agree. Ironically, Kotoba now does it better than Noz in Physical+Magical attack approach.

After checking it out, what is the use of [card]The Dance of the Blade[/card] if it only lasts 2 turns O.o?????? It will make sense if it lasts 2 fights.

Arguably, there is not much Noz Action to chain with [card]Witchblade Secret[/card]. Sometimes I do wonder how [card]General Fray[/card] being designed. Not much thought is put into Witchblade Secret IMHO.

I guess my Witchblade can now retire to obscurity. Time to update my Eclipse a bit.

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#23 28-06-2012 08:16:54

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Re : Witchblade Outdated? Deck Ideas?

[card]The Dance of the Blade[/card]
Play it on turn 3, select again the character on turn 4
It is rare chance. not good enough


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