From previous experiences with [card]Net Traps[/card] I would say drop them. To easy for opponents to avoid. I am also not the biggest fan of [card]Hypnotic Melody[/card] either, I am pretty sure there are other cards out there that lowers an opponent defense better, though I am drawing a blank right now.

As for Amezy I would say you would get so-so results, most of your Elfine attacks will continue to bounce off high defense decks even with your defense lowering skills in play. And if that deck also has a way to heal through the magic poison from your ivory bow, you will be royally screwed against them.

Dernière modification par pikadusk (24-04-2012 15:01:26)

skadooosh · 24-04-2012 14:56:58

you have 4 bows....
you got only 3 char...
and distracted is good you can add one or two....

you're missing the toolbox:
you can add in [card]dissidence [/card]which is a must have. (I don't understand ppl not putting this card in their deck.) and [card]sentence[/card]

Cossette · 24-04-2012 15:04:04

I'm using 4 bows too... it doesn't hurt to have some extra especially when 2 of them can chain it...

pikadusk · 24-04-2012 15:04:08

Well, I can think of two reasons right now why someone wouldn't have those two cards in their deck. They weren't around for the story events of dissidence or sentence, and do not have any means to buy fee'z to purchase the trophies.

Oh, and I think it would be alright to exchange [card]Hypnotic Melody[/card] for [card]The Grand Hunt[/card].

Dernière modification par pikadusk (24-04-2012 15:07:41)

skadooosh · 24-04-2012 15:06:06

well free fee'z are free...

Ale_F · 24-04-2012 15:10:57

pikadusk a écrit :

From previous experiences with [card]Net Traps[/card] I would say drop them. To easy for opponents to avoid. I am also not the biggest fan of [card]Hypnotic Melody[/card] either, I am pretty sure there are other cards out there that lowers an opponent defense better, though I am drawing a blank right now.

Me too.
What about [card]Scroll of Immobility[/card]? It's faster then [card]Distracted[/card] and deny the opponent's defense, also giving chain. I'm not sure about [card]Distracted[/card], it slow us down to one turn...

skadooosh a écrit :

you have 4 bows....
you got only 3 char...
and distracted is good you can add one or two....

Previously I played only three bows and i felt that i need one more.
As I got some Fee'z, I'll buy some card for the toolbox.

pikadusk · 24-04-2012 15:14:16

The only free fee'z I know about is the ones you get from doing doing those things to get free facebook credits, which I absolutely abhor doing. So if there is another way to get free fee'z I am listening. And I do not include the fee'z you can win in the amezy tournament that is awarded to the top eight players in it, because the original poster is trying to make a deck to do well in it.

skadooosh · 24-04-2012 15:17:08

wall just log not on facebook and you'll see what I'm talking about.
but if you don't like how it works. blame you. not the game.

pikadusk · 24-04-2012 15:27:33

skadooosh a écrit :

wall just log not on facebook and you'll see what I'm talking about.
but if you don't like how it works. blame you. not the game.

Oh, I found it and sorry for acting rude. I use real money to buy fee'z, so it isn't a problem for me. It just that I am not exactly a big fan of people suggesting high priced (in crystals) cards or cards that I assumed a free player couldn't obtain as if it were a staple crop of every deck.

Oh, and Ale_F, beyond knowing that Hypnotic Melody isn't the best defense debuffer, I don't know which one is the best out of all the ones you mentioned.

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Ale_F · 24-04-2012 15:40:08

Talking about [card]The Grand Hunt[/card] it's better as bonuses than [card]Hypnotic Melody[/card], but it CAN'T chain any card! So we lost speed... It's not good in the modern meta-game.

[card]Sentence[/card] it's not so fundamental in the Elfine list: Immortal it's a positive match up, just play carefully, while against DK it's really really hard.

Nurvus · 24-04-2012 15:48:42

Ale_F a écrit :

Talking about [card]The Grand Hunt[/card] it's better as bonuses than [card]Hypnotic Melody[/card], but it CAN'T chain any card! So we lost speed... It's not good in the modern meta-game.
[card]Sentence[/card] it's not so fundamental in the Elfine list: Immortal it's a positive match up, just play carefully, while against DK it's really really hard.

Immortal may be positive match up, or not.
Everytime you hit any of their characters, Urakia heals 1 health point.

Temple Guardians with Sakina totally destroy a few cards in this deck, specially Hypnotic Melody.

So against them, who love to heal, Sentence may be a decent idea.
They use Solaris, they die.

Lindblum · 24-04-2012 16:03:32

If you have to purchase a trophy card pick [card]Dissidence[/card], if you do end up against a Sap Heart deck chances are its Wild Buds and you're not going to beat that.

Sentence is nice but will most likely get discarded half the time.

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Raeil · 22-05-2012 05:16:29

i'm slapping together an Elfine deck for fun. What would be better [card]Amber Dagger[/card] or [card]Life Devourer[/card]? I was unsure, i still have a couple LD from my old school Court deck.

gaurdianaq · 22-05-2012 05:29:17

An elfine deck is one of my dream decks to build but it's to expensive atm, but wouldn't some life devouring daggers be good? like 2 or 3? Considering both melissandre and chestnut chain from them. And ditch at least 2 of the bows.

I'm no expert but I think 4 bows is overkill and you'de be better off adding 2 daggers.

Ale_F · 24-05-2012 08:39:10

The major problem we can meet with this deck is fight against deck with charactars with high bonuses of defense.
For this it's absolutely better using the bows than the dagger: with [card]Ivory Bow[/card] you can pass high defense, cause, in general, the charactars with an high basic defense have spirit 0 or 1.
The only dagger can also give you this benefit is [card]Amber Dagger[/card].

So, no [card]Life Devourer[/card] and put in Bows and [card]Amber Dagger[/card].

skadooosh · 24-05-2012 10:01:29

against high defense characters, you need cards that fixes the defense to a precise value...
[card]tantad's spear[/card] [card]Scroll of Immobility[/card] [card]distracted[/card]...

kilcosu · 24-05-2012 12:09:29

Elfine decks are good but unless they happen to one shot my Foam Giant first turn he's out I'm not scared

Ale_F · 24-05-2012 12:17:34

The first two are good, also if I've not tested [card]tantad's spear[/card].
[card]Distracted[/card] it's too slow, it's better for a multirace that's have better defensive stats.

kilcosu a écrit :

Elfine decks are good but unless they happen to one shot my Foam Giant first turn he's out I'm not scared

Don't be too muche secure: i've got a 50/50 rate againt Foam Giant based deck (and not always i oneshot the legendary pg!)

kilcosu · 24-05-2012 12:24:09

Just depends on the turn order and tactics. the draw of cards can play good or bad for both players so that's hardly a factor. but I do know that I've gotten 4 or 5 attacks on my Foam giant in a round and absolutely nothing happened.

Ale_F · 04-07-2012 09:29:57

Here my new version, with the last elfine's cards!

2 [card]Quick Draw[/card]
3 [card]Briskness[/card]
2 [card]Hypnotic Melody[/card]
3 [card]Elfine Intimidation[/card]
1 [card]Elfine Bow[/card]
2 [card]Mystical Bow[/card]
2 [card]Piercing Arrows[/card]
3 [card]Hit for Hit[/card]
1 [card]Objective: Dimizar[/card]
1 [card]Keep the Customs[/card]

It's a 1600 ELO rating. But i think it can do better.
What do you think about? Suggestions?

Jonas Albrecht · 06-07-2012 07:25:53

I'd lose Keep the Customs. I never felt the benefit was worth it, and it always seemed like whenever I drew it, here was a better card for the situation.

Here's what I'm currently running for my Elfine Quickdraw:

[card]Anathematize[/card] x1
[card]Asrow[/card] x3
[card]Briskness[/card] x3
[card]Elfine Bow[/card] x1
[card]Elfine Intimidation[/card] x3
[card]Hibernation[/card] x2
[card]Hit for Hit[/card] x3
[card]Hypnotic Melody[/card] x3
[card]Quick Draw[/card] x3
[card]Strength of the Sap of Hearts[/card]
[card]The Grand Hunt[/card] x3

Even with the increase in deck size, the Quick Draw deck benefits from having a very low card count. That said, I've been experimenting with 25-30 cards. What I keep losing to at the moment is the new Pack decks that churn up some giant Def bonuses (quite a turn around from a few months ago, when facing The Pack with Quick Draw meant an all but assured win), so I might try to work in the [card]Piercing Arrows[/card]. Since Briskness is vastly better than Quick Draw, I might drop down to two of them. Finally, you might want to make room for a Hibernate. When you need a one turn stall, this card is amazing.

Also, I'd really like to take advantage of Ydiane's guemelite status and add some nature spells to the deck, perhaps 1 to 3. Is [card]Wild Buds[/card] a good fit for Quick Draw?

Dernière modification par Jonas Albrecht (06-07-2012 07:42:21)

Dhaonrisemlan · 06-07-2012 08:35:54

I don't know about Wild Buds, but definitely Magic Poison.

Ale_F · 10-07-2012 08:41:07

Jonas Albrecht a écrit :

Finally, you might want to make room for a Hibernate. When you need a one turn stall, this card is amazing.

I played [card]Hybernation[/card] and i don't like it. They slows down too much our game!! And we can't allow it.

Jonas Albrecht a écrit :

Also, I'd really like to take advantage of Ydiane's guemelite status and add some nature spells to the deck, perhaps 1 to 3. Is [card]Wild Buds[/card] a good fit for Quick Draw?

Absolutely not. Elfine it's an aggro deck, we need speed and agility: spell are not for this deck!

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