U only spent money at EP if u whant, u don´t really need to have al limited time cards they release unsell u really whant to have and then u spend money, as for the other mission u don´t need to beat all level´s at that absurde limited time (for those who don´t buy EP) just keep beating the last one till it releases the prize.
If u whant something really good u´ll always need to pay isn´t it?

gamerman1369 · 09-04-2012 20:27:07

By Zurga(Sorry, I do not understand your last post.
My English is not good enough for that.

I don't think I was disdainful for anyone whatever his level is.
The boss of the Zahal treasure is doable by any deck (or almost).

In average you get one card by win against a boss, sometimes is none, sometimes it's more.

Play 4 times a boss, you gain in average 4 card, this mean a basic booster each day.
Sometimes you get favours, OK, not playable card, sometimes you get others cards and you can play with them.

I don't see any unfair system there.)
ok let's me make it easy.
In a 24 hour time frame I fought 12 games today against bosses.
If bosses cost more to do the drop rate should be higher...no from everything that's been told to me its. No
out of the 12 fights = 2 favor cards 276 EP
I bought 4 new comers and 4 booster not one card over 19k out of the 70 cards
I played @ least 2 years never getting Any legendary cards from packs and for the fact have over 1700 cards in my collection not from not playing.
my complaint like in the beginning 0-3 drops on bosses is not a fair drop rate
when and if you do multiple's time and get nothing, So FREE > NOTHING thats my complaint Im getting nothing....and Zurga when you put () around people who play too people who do play all the time and put life....it is the wrong thing to say.

Dernière modification par gamerman1369 (09-04-2012 20:28:35)

soulst3al3r · 09-04-2012 20:48:10

gamerman1369 a écrit :

By Zurga(Sorry, I do not understand your last post.
My English is not good enough for that.
I don't think I was disdainful for anyone whatever his level is.
The boss of the Zahal treasure is doable by any deck (or almost).
In average you get one card by win against a boss, sometimes is none, sometimes it's more.
Play 4 times a boss, you gain in average 4 card, this mean a basic booster each day.
Sometimes you get favours, OK, not playable card, sometimes you get others cards and you can play with them.
I don't see any unfair system there.)
ok let's me make it easy.
In a 24 hour time frame I fought 12 games today against bosses.
If bosses cost more to do the drop rate should be higher...no from everything that's been told to me its. No
out of the 12 fights = 2 favor cards 276 EP
I bought 4 new comers and 4 booster not one card over 19k out of the 70 cards
I played @ least 2 years never getting Any legendary cards from packs and for the fact have over 1700 cards in my collection not from not playing.
my complaint like in the beginning 0-3 drops on bosses is not a fair drop rate
when and if you do multiple's time and get nothing, So FREE > NOTHING thats my complaint Im getting nothing....and Zurga when you put () around people who play too people who do play all the time and put life....it is the wrong thing to say.

can someone translate?

Pit_017 · 09-04-2012 20:53:34

i don't understand it either xD

as far as i get it he complains about not getting any drops from the bosses

thats my complaint Im getting nothing

Satyrox · 09-04-2012 20:57:52

I would try but I neither understood half, and the other half is a quote.

Fu*k the grammar
lets
write like
this() No problem

gamerman1369 · 10-04-2012 00:30:03

WOW!!!!

OK in a 24 hour time period.

I fought 12 fight's against bosses only, in adventure mode.

I only got drops on times 9,10 all the other fight i got nothing.

and of the two drops i got one card each time and it was a favor.

So for a grand total of two cards in a 24 hour time frame using 276 energy points.

Is this fair?

is this easier for you all.

and as for the part in quotes () if you read the earlier post he was insinuating that anyone that puts hour's into this game has no life.

Pit_017 · 10-04-2012 02:03:06

are you complaining about being treated the same like everyone else ?

because the drop rate is equal for everybody

squamation · 10-04-2012 06:32:23

Because there is so much misunderstanding on this topic, I'll sum it up IN HAIKU.

These cards are free cards!
There appears to be lacking
appreciation.

Ah, the language of poetry, one everyone can understand.

Also, the thing about luck (good or bad) is that it never lasts.

Zurga · 10-04-2012 09:42:06

gamerman1369 a écrit :

and as for the part in quotes () if you read the earlier post he was insinuating that anyone that puts hour's into this game has no life.

I think you misunderstood what I meant.

The parenthesis are there to give an average value of what most of players achieve, something around 180EP used by day. 60EP on morning, 60 EP after work, 60EP or less late evening. Very few players are able to use the 280EP possible in 24hours.

I have given basic calculation and the first response I received is often that no-one is able to play every 5 hours (including night) to use the full EP.
It's why I gave some average values.

To refocus on the subject : you received 9 or 10 cards in 12 attempts, this is not bad.

Bad luck for you, you received only 2 playable cards. It's just luck.
I'm pretty sure that you will not have theses figures 2 days in a row.
Will you come here and give the numbers for today ?

Sapphon · 10-04-2012 13:13:46

gamerman1369 a écrit :

Is this fair?

What you're trying to say is that you get cards for free, but it's not fair enough ?

magius · 10-04-2012 13:22:29

Sapphon a écrit :

gamerman1369 a écrit :
Is this fair?
What you're trying to say is that you get cards for free, but it's not fair enough ?

+1 Adventure mode allow FREE players to have a chance to get a fantastic rare. What more can anyone want from that???? Geez...

soulst3al3r · 10-04-2012 13:24:49

magius a écrit :

Sapphon a écrit :
gamerman1369 a écrit :
Is this fair?
What you're trying to say is that you get cards for free, but it's not fair enough ?
+1 Adventure mode allow FREE players to have a chance to get a fantastic rare. What more can anyone want from that???? Geez...

+1

coolasc · 10-04-2012 14:35:33

Sapphon a écrit :

gamerman1369 a écrit :
Is this fair?
What you're trying to say is that you get cards for free, but it's not fair enough ?

+1, just see my suggestion on previous page, giving a fi 1-2 instead of 0-3 would kill those complainers

and to those complaining it's ipossible to get good cards: got a drconian sword this morning (too bad i don't play noz, still it's an expensive card one can get free there)

(but i'm tired of getting the "i hate the xxx" cards, i seem to get one of those every 6cards xD)

Dernière modification par coolasc (10-04-2012 14:35:48)

Sapphon · 10-04-2012 15:12:22

coolasc a écrit :

+1, just see my suggestion on previous page, giving a fi 1-2 instead of 0-3 would kill those complainers

Won't happen. The problem is that too many new cards are created if we allow every boss encounter to generate at least one. But we are exploring other options that would allow you to get free cards, without having the frustrating random factor, and without generating insane amounts of cards.

Nurvus · 10-04-2012 15:33:08

Yep, Sapphon.
Getting a somewhat random number of "tickets" per fight.
And then having an "auction house" of sorts where you spend those tickets for cards you actually want

skadooosh · 10-04-2012 16:11:26

Sapphon a écrit :

But we are exploring other options that would allow you to get free cards, without having the frustrating random factor, and without generating insane amounts of cards.

sriously??
like we could be able to pick a card without the random factor??

but... this... this is AMAZING!!

Sapphon · 10-04-2012 18:15:44

I'm saying we're exploring. We're still a bit far from anything useable ;p

@ Nurvus : That's what I've already proposed. Let's see if anything good comes out of it ^^

coolasc · 10-04-2012 18:25:58

Nurvus a écrit :

Yep, Sapphon.
Getting a somewhat random number of "tickets" per fight.
And then having an "auction house" of sorts where you spend those tickets for cards you actually want

love that idea and opening it's orizon with some extra ideas:

>for both of my ideas:
-you can up to 20 tickets/day for free (these would come together with daily quest, giving you 3 tickets on 1st day, 6 on second, 9 on third, 12 on forth and 15 on fifth, 6th day would as usual give the free card) and on story mode on bosses (aditionally to the 0-3cards and by chance, 5 times maxium), being also able to purchase them in the store for about 1k crystals each (making it hard but possible to try getting more chances when t's a card you really want);
-24 cards/day;
-rarity can range from uncommon (12cards), rare (9 cards), legendary or out of game (1card), out , foiling/exp cards (2 pack);
-out of game means cards and trophys that were once obtainable, such as multiple cards artwork [at least 1rare+1common], exploits, event and the ability to "ice" ice elves or similar effects to other cards;
-the foiling cards would be something to appear rare times (1-4x/week) and would be used in the same way as experience cards but turning a regular cards in it's foil version;
-Exp cards would give minium 600 in total (about as much as half lvl 3 card);
-each bid would cost 1 ticket per bid for uncommon, 2 for rare and 3 for legendary/out of game;
-All cards with exception of foiling, exp and out of game would be tradable on the market (artworks from there would be untradable).

>Lowest unique bid:
-This would give the card to the lowest UNIQUE bid, meaning if all bidded values have 2 or more bidders no plaers wins the card
-The bigs would last 12hours (2 times, 24 cards) or 24hours time using midnight (server) as reference time, therefore allowing most people to bid

>Low price auction house:
-Minium bid for cards would be at 100crystals (uncommon), 1000 (rare), and 5000 (legendary/out of game) and would have to rise 1/10/100 crystals per bid respectively
-each auction would start at the begin of each hour with a 10minutes counter, any bid done under 30seconds left would rise the counter back to 30seconds
-the legendary would start at midnight (servertime) on the 1st day of this system and appear 1hour later each day (therefore giving more chances to all players to spend their tickets there), the out of game/exp/foil cards would appear 8hours after this one, other than that the rarity (between the 12 uncommon and 9 rares) would be randomized but always giving the same ammount

Dernière modification par coolasc (10-04-2012 19:23:52)

skadooosh · 10-04-2012 18:50:56

those ticket shall not be buyable with feez... you saw what happen on events such as halloween or shulong...

Stormholt · 10-04-2012 18:59:17

skadooosh a écrit :

those ticket shall not be buyable with feez... you saw what happen on events such as halloween or shulong...

Agreed, they must be won whit the blood of our fingers clicking and clicking!

Nurvus · 10-04-2012 19:06:11

Sapphon a écrit :

I'm saying we're exploring. We're still a bit far from anything useable ;p
@ Nurvus : That's what I've already proposed. Let's see if anything good comes out of it ^^

You can convince the staff by telling them that Energy will become alot more attractive = more money income

Dernière modification par Nurvus (10-04-2012 19:06:26)

coolasc · 10-04-2012 19:18:58

skadooosh a écrit :

those ticket shall not be buyable with feez... you saw what happen on events such as halloween or shulong...

actually i wasn't here backthen been away over a year and came back after valentine's day xD but well removing that part on my idea

Satyrox · 11-04-2012 01:12:57

I also think its a really good idea!

Btw the list from today, since the morning till now i'll go to sleep, from tempus boss

Fight1: Exp card
Fight2: 2 Common
Fight3: Exp card + common
Fight4: Another 2 commons
Fight5: 1 common
Fight6: 1 common
Fight7: Eredan favor
Fight8: Uncommon [card]Saphyra[/card]

In the end, atm there's a loooot of useless cards, not a single one of the commons is playable ( maybe on first lvls with starter decks ), might be a good point to reduce it or make something with all that cards

Cya! ^^

Zurga · 11-04-2012 09:26:37

skadooosh a écrit :

those ticket shall not be buyable with feez... you saw what happen on events such as halloween or shulong...

Did you notice that EP is buyable with Feez ?

With EP, you fight boss; when you fight boss, you find cards (or tickets).

2+2 = ?

skadooosh · 11-04-2012 10:46:12

yeah, I know, but still, it's not the same as actually buying a ticket with feez directly...
since I suppose that you will get a different amount of "tickets" depending on the rarity of the cards.

anyway, I'm not really willing to see any bid.
I would ather see a system that could allow anyone to actually have the card.

I was thinking about something like: the price is right:
for each card the staff input a price which the players can't know.
every player ca bid tickets on the card. at the end of each days. all players that are +or-5% next to the price get the card with the price they decided...

after a few weeks, the staff will stop imposing prices and they will automaticly fixed at the end of each day being the mediane(don't know how to say that in english) of all bid made.

this could make "anyone" have the cards and not only the rich ones...at least as long as you have as much tickets as the final price.

(I don't know if it was clear)

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