Let's see what happens to paying players:
- They give Feerik cash by buying boosters - boosters give players better chance to complete Events by having better/more variety in decks.
- Then Feerik wants those players to PAY MORE in order to use the cards they already paid to get, in order to be able to complete certain missions/events and get a card.

Even with good decks and paying for Energy, having to win 4-7 fights in a row (you can't lose any) within a set time limit is tough enough.

- Players who don't spend money on boosters NOR energy have 0% chance in these limited time events.
- Players who spend money on boosters OR energy (not both) have 0% chance in these limited time events.
- Players who spend money on boosters AND energy may NEED to spend money on favors too or risk wasting the money they spent on the energy due to bad luck in draws/damage/hidden effects.

I will not bother with any of the missions if I know from the start I'll never be able to complete them all in time because I'm supposed to pay you to do that.

As long as this greedy mentality persists in Eredan, I will not spend 1 cent on it. Cross my heart. <3

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Gent M · 23-03-2012 07:21:46

Wow. This post is really amazing.
You completely forgot what Eredan was like before adventure mode was released. Just the fact that you get free cards from beating the bosses was a huge (and I still feel it's an understatement) improvement for free players.
Not only that but so far you can get all the cards for free! You just have to keep playing.
I have all the adventure cards, except the marauder weapon from the arena and the pint, and I only paid for the nehant and arena adventure so I really don't see how your arguments can be valid.

I strongly believe in well founded critique against Feerik but your topic does not fall in that category.

Caitlyn · 23-03-2012 09:30:58

i hope they listen to someone who can't even post in the right section.

99%?? where did you get that info? please don't go throwing numbers when you don't have access to any raw data.
and events should "ALWAYS" be free? lol. sometimes greed goes both ways.

Dernière modification par Caitlyn (23-03-2012 09:31:34)

Calandra · 23-03-2012 15:16:12

ok nurvus was posting in the wrong section and may have been a bit raging while typing his thing which makes ppl throw numbers and stuff just to get some agreements on the points said...

thing is that i agree with Gent M as well as with Nurvus...

of course the adventure mode is THE option to get free cards for all the ppl out there who are not buying boosters... this simply never existed before and we all know that there are some hell-ass-lucky-people out there who even get the 40k free cards from adventure drops *envy*

anyways i also think that the price for the energy is really too high... in the end what is energy you bought? its an attempt to get what you want... you can buy some energy and still be caught with 5 tries starting with horrible hand cards which all result in humiliating failures... instead you could have burned the bill and have at least 3 sec of warming your hands...

i m also very happy that feerik at least allows everyone to get the adventure trophy cards by pure stuborn trying... but in the end... which of these cards are REALLY usefull..?!

a personal remark: the adventure is still in Beta-mode... i wonder how long that will be as they just keep adding stuff

Ballack · 23-03-2012 16:27:37

Only thing I have to say, is that it really sux that when u win any boss, lately there is a high chance to not beeing rewarded with ANY card... perhaps it is just me or its a bug, but in the last 10 fights i did, in 4 of them i didn't get any card...

But still a free way to get cards, so we all must be glad and happy to have the Adventure Mode.

Nurvus · 23-03-2012 16:32:21

Yeah, I kinda snapped.
I found myself realizing that certain mechanics in this game are ridiculously greedy of Feerik.

Gent M, I'm not talking about the Guild Bosses, I beat them all, and most players beat at least a few.

I am complaining only about the events that require you to pay to get.
I'm talking about the Events with Time Limit and/or Energy Constraint.
I'm talking about the Events that aren't made to be beaten with 60 Initial Energy.

I would accept if you could only beat them for free IF you win 100% of the fights AND stretch out those fights until nearly the time limit inh order to have enough Total Energy, but such isn't the case.

I provided simple facts:
- Players who don't spend money on Boosters are unlikely to have the necessary deck variety to beat the Guild Bosses, much less these events, unless they've been around forever, and even then, unlikely.
- Players who spend money on Boosters may still not have the necessary deck variety to beat the Guild Bosses, much less these events, but are more likely to.

Requiring players to pay for Energy/Favors ON TOP of what they paid to get the cards from boosters is unacceptable to me, specially when the reward is nothing compared to what you get from boosters...

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Ryken · 23-03-2012 16:46:16

Or you if you end up spending the money to get the card but can't use it in ELO, like Scragh.

Congrats to all those people!! Hope you enjoy the card you can't use in a competitive environment, possibly ever!!

Good riddance though.

Wolvos · 23-03-2012 16:58:50

and u need lvl 13 for this event!!!!

FutureMesca · 23-03-2012 18:26:55

Nurvus a écrit :

I am complaining only about the events that require you to pay to get.
I'm talking about the Events with Time Limit and/or Energy Constraint.
I'm talking about the Events that aren't made to be beaten with 60 Initial Energy.

So you're ranting about "The Ritual" and "The Thread of Time" correct?

You know... You don't need to complete all the missions within the time limit to get the card trophies [card]Maun, guardian of the ritual[/card] and [card]Deirf Geis[/card].

You just need to grind the bosses and those cards will eventually drop.

Nurvus a écrit :

I also agree with allowing players to pay in order to do stuff faster/more easily.

That's exactly what's going on here, if you want those cards faster and guaranteed, you need to buy energy to complete those events.

Dernière modification par FutureMesca (23-03-2012 18:37:27)

Ryken · 23-03-2012 18:29:42

FutureMesca a écrit :

That's exactly what's going on here, if you want those cards faster and guaranteed, you need to buy energy to complete those events.

I think that's what he was trying to call bullcrap on. Frankly I agree, but that's me. I'd rather spend my crystals on packs, not energy. When you think about it (key word: think) he's right. It's dumb.

Stormholt · 23-03-2012 18:35:53

Totally agreed whit you, the event of scrag was a shame, it was not possible to do whitout spend some money on the game, i tried very hard, to do ONLY one mission of the Tunder king,and i finish it,but it's still a shame...

FutureMesca · 23-03-2012 18:36:04

Ryken a écrit :

FutureMesca a écrit :
That's exactly what's going on here, if you want those cards faster and guaranteed, you need to buy energy to complete those events.
I think that's what he was trying to call bullcrap on. Frankly I agree, but that's me. I'd rather spend my crystals on packs, not energy. When you think about it (key word: think) he's right. It's dumb.

I don't think so, read my post again, he says he agrees with it. I believe he thinks there is no other way to get those 2 cards other than completing those 2 events within the time limit which isn't true.

I got both of them and I never bought energy.

FutureMesca · 23-03-2012 18:46:46

Even if you miss a card like I missed [card]The Flamboyant Phoenix[/card] there is a chance it can also drop from any boss in the Adventure mode.

You people should be grateful Feerik actually gives a lot of stuff for free.

Feerik gifted me 100 Fee'z today for guessing a simple riddle in Amnezy's facebook page, if that's not generosity, I don't know what is...

Dernière modification par FutureMesca (23-03-2012 18:50:05)

Nurvus · 23-03-2012 20:46:13

No, FutureMesca, I shouldn't be grateful he gives stuff for free.

Feerik gains alot from making the game free:
- Draws players to know the game.
- Gives paying players opponents to fight against.
- Spreads the word of the game.

As the game started, the weekly Trophies rewarded old players for being "founders", and new players would need to spend real money to get those Trophy cards.

That is a good mechanic.

Paid Events is not, specially since only players who spend money on Boosters are likely to be able to complete said events anyway.

soulst3al3r · 23-03-2012 20:56:33

I'm a free player and i think that adventure mode is a godsend. Being able to farm for crystals and potentially get rare cards is a luxury that free players id not have prior to this change. I feel less slighted now about not being able to get scragh or this new one or whatever because of it.

FutureMesca · 24-03-2012 01:49:41

So what, Nurvus, do you want Feerik to say: "Hey, here, have 100 of each card released so far and 100 million complimentary Fee'z for being such a devoted free player" ?!

When a poor guy get's a free sandwich do you think he complains that he was expecting lobster instead? No, he thanks the gift and eats happily. You should do the same.

Ryken · 24-03-2012 02:29:20

FutureMesca a écrit :

So what, Nurvus, do you want Feerik to say: "Hey, here, have 100 of each card released so far and 100 million complimentary Fee'z for being such a devoted free player" ?!
When a poor guy get's a free sandwich do you think he complains that he was expecting lobster instead? No, he thanks the gift and eats happily. You should do the same.

You DO realize that, to complete certain events, it's NOT free as it requires you to buy Feez to get extra energy, right? Right now you're getting cracker crumbs, not sandwiches. For those, you gotta pay up.

catcatcat · 24-03-2012 03:44:23

With the exception of the Scragh event, all adventure mode challenges are completable for free. If you want the card, just farm the final boss and you'll get it. If you want a trophy and a title that you're never going to use nor will anyone give a shit that you have them, spend feez for them. Adventure mode is a blessing to both free and paying players. It also has made the game more interesting with the new adventure mode campaigns every two weeks.

skadooosh · 24-03-2012 04:03:28

catcatcat a écrit :

With the exception of the Scragh event, all adventure mode challenges are completable for free. If you want the card, just farm the final boss and you'll get it. If you want a trophy and a title that you're never going to use nor will anyone give a shit that you have them, spend feez for them. Adventure mode is a blessing to both free and paying players. It also has made the game more interesting with the new adventure mode campaigns every two weeks.

that's false. you seem to have forgotten about shulong...

catcatcat · 24-03-2012 15:14:33

that's false. you seem to have forgotten about shulong...

No, I didn't. It was possible to attain one free shulong simply by grinding the first zahal mission. You couldn't get both shulongs but at least you could have gotten one of them.

skadooosh · 24-03-2012 16:01:11

catcatcat a écrit :

that's false. you seem to have forgotten about shulong...
No, I didn't. It was possible to attain one free shulong simply by grinding the first zahal mission. You couldn't get both shulongs but at least you could have gotten one of them.

well if you can't have both without paying then it's not a free event...

FutureMesca · 24-03-2012 18:54:43

It can still drop from the Adventure bosses...

Ryken · 24-03-2012 18:57:59

FutureMesca a écrit :

It can still drop from the Adventure bosses...

Calculate the odds of that, then get back to me.

FutureMesca · 24-03-2012 20:09:37

Ryken a écrit :

FutureMesca a écrit :
It can still drop from the Adventure bosses...
Calculate the odds of that, then get back to me.

I'm tired of talking sense to spoiled kids...

Damncaster · 25-03-2012 00:33:57

Geez i can´t agree with all, the only thing i dont agree its space limited adventures that we need to do it in a row and some adventures that gave me nuts like the phoenix campaing, i couldnt get phoenix so im still mad at feerik xD i wont be mad if u release daijin in the next crow release xDDD (not joaking)

Good Game to all

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