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#1 06-02-2012 04:16:27

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Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

Characters: 03
[card]Ardrakar the Dragon Knight[/card]
[card]Kounok the Prophet[/card]
[card]Arkalon[/card]

Cards: 20
[3] [card]In the Name of the Dragon[/card]
[3] [card]Knight's Honour[/card]
[3] [card]Cut and Thrust![/card]
[2] [card]The Dragon's Champion[/card]
[2] [card]Draconian Sword[/card]
[2] [card]Magic Attack[/card]
[1] [card]The Best Defense...[/card]
[1] [card]The Last Action[/card]
[1] [card]Life Devourer[/card]
[1] [card]Clumsiness[/card]
[1] [card]Chimera[/card]

I played Dragon Knight's back in the day after getting my ass handed to me by one. It was okay and I liked the playstyle. Back then, though, it seemed the basic strategy was “I can use [card]Magic Attack[/card] 6 times, so haha!” where as now...well, you can still do that, but now you have GREAT support (some would even say overpowered) in [card]Knight's Honour[/card] and [card]Cut and Thrust![/card]. [card]Ardrakar the Dragon Knight[/card] is also a great addition, lending a hand in defense.

[card]Knight's Honour[/card]/[card]The Best Defense...[/card] is just insane. Using it after you get a [card]Draconian Sword[/card] or two out will net you a kill, at the very least.

I'll post up a more comprehensive guide when I can, should I decide to just maindeck this and trudge through all the garbage you usually see in Tourneys. smile

Thoughts?

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#2 06-02-2012 05:25:32

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

In all honesty Dragon Knights are Dragon Knights. Anyway you twist it the overall do they do the same thing and have the same strat. Slap weapons and a champion card on your character and outlast your opponent.

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#3 06-02-2012 05:59:01

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

you forgot the one card that makes arkalon (or whoever you want) so hard to kill...
Chimera ?!

edit; also kick a Dragons Champion for [card]The Last Action[/card] if you want to do some real dmg^^

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#4 06-02-2012 06:39:48

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

Yeah, I can't afford [card]Chimera[/card] or [card]The Last Action[/card]. But curse me for forgetting to even mention them. hmm

But as soon as I can get my hands on them, I'll add them in. [card]The Last Action[/card] is good, but I think I'd rather have [card]Chimera[/card] in there. Just soooo OP it's dumb.

And yeah Bmyarne, you're right. Outlast. smile


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#5 06-02-2012 11:16:02

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

hmmm did anger someone or is ure title 'stupid monkey' an official one?


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#6 06-02-2012 11:32:58

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

Calandra a écrit :

hmmm did anger someone or is ure title 'stupid monkey' an official one?

lol


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#7 06-02-2012 12:10:36

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

The first thing you got do is get a chimera.

Second you have too many The Dragons Champion. 2 is more than enough.

I think it lacks weapons.. So I would add Chimera + 1 Living Dagger. And probally remove one Draconic Sword. But you can keep 3 for a better draw.

Also any draconic spell you have 3, is too much. I mean you got 3 In the Name of the Dragon. So you can recile near everything. Your getting the space of counter cards that are necessary, like Clumsiness, Dissidence and Sentence.

With the new cards and Ardrakar who chains draconic spells, the DK got a lot faster, and not so dependent of tanking with Chimera and Champio, that is always cut down by a Sentence.

I would change your configuration for:

[3] In the Name of the Dragon
[2] The Dragon's Champion
[2] Draconian Sword
[2] Knight's Honour
[2] Cut and Thrust!
[2] Magic Attack
[1] The Best Defense...
[2] Than the Sword (Works well tieh Cut and late game Knight's Honour, and really well with Power and Chimera)
[1] Power
[1] Chimera
[1] Dissidence
[1] Living Dagger (or Life Devourer if you upgradded it from the initial deck, but Living is better).

As you can afford, get TLA in the place of one of the Than the Sword. And, talking big, get a void, to re-use anything, especially The Best Defence...

If you wan't to try the super tank version of DK, you got place some dragon armor, With Evil intentions and Exodium.. But this version is totally crushed by Sentence..


Edit: If you got it, you can place Strengh of the Noz, really good card to chain with In the name of the dragon, followed by Than the Sword, TLA..

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#8 06-02-2012 13:40:42

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soulst3al3r a écrit :
Calandra a écrit :

hmmm did anger someone or is ure title 'stupid monkey' an official one?

lol

must have angered someone that title is pure hate at its own right haha


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#9 06-02-2012 16:44:53

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Calandra a écrit :

hmmm did anger someone or is ure title 'stupid monkey' an official one?

Some idiot thought I linked porn in my signature awhile back and banned me, though how anyone would think that is beyond me. After about a month (or more, I forget) of me telling them how wrong they were they unbanned my account. I'm guessing this is their shot at me. But we can't all be mature adults, can we? People will be idiots, after all. But I wear that title with pride. I won, after all. tongue

Paladino.:RR:. a écrit :

The first thing you got do is get a chimera.

Second you have too many The Dragons Champion. 2 is more than enough.

I think it lacks weapons.. So I would add Chimera + 1 Living Dagger. And probally remove one Draconic Sword. But you can keep 3 for a better draw.

Also any draconic spell you have 3, is too much. I mean you got 3 In the Name of the Dragon. So you can recile near everything. Your getting the space of counter cards that are necessary, like Clumsiness, Dissidence and Sentence.

With the new cards and Ardrakar who chains draconic spells, the DK got a lot faster, and not so dependent of tanking with Chimera and Champio, that is always cut down by a Sentence.

I would change your configuration for:

[3] In the Name of the Dragon
[2] The Dragon's Champion
[2] Draconian Sword
[2] Knight's Honour
[2] Cut and Thrust!
[2] Magic Attack
[1] The Best Defense...
[2] Than the Sword (Works well tieh Cut and late game Knight's Honour, and really well with Power and Chimera)
[1] Power
[1] Chimera
[1] Dissidence
[1] Living Dagger (or Life Devourer if you upgradded it from the initial deck, but Living is better).

As you can afford, get TLA in the place of one of the Than the Sword. And, talking big, get a void, to re-use anything, especially The Best Defence...

If you wan't to try the super tank version of DK, you got place some dragon armor, With Evil intentions and Exodium.. But this version is totally crushed by Sentence..


Edit: If you got it, you can place Strengh of the Noz, really good card to chain with In the name of the dragon, followed by Than the Sword, TLA..

Thanks man, I appreciate it. I'm hitting about 1600 ELO right now (though I've only been playing since I posted the deck), and with my current version (I DID get Chimera, after all), but I'm still hitting some pretty rough spots and sometimes the games can get long, boring and hella frustrating. Mirror Matches are the WORST, as it's really about who can get in Cut and Thrust in last so that Chimera can go away...but then we just In the Name of the Dragon it right back to our character!!

My next goal is to try and get The Last Action. That should smooth things out a bit, as well as make things much faster.

How do I get With Evil Intentions?

And Exodium...yeah. I'm liking it. That'll probably be the next trophy card I get.

Thanks for your help!!


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#10 06-02-2012 16:51:45

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

If you don't have With Evil intentions from the Hallowen event, you can only hope that by miracle luck you drop it in the adventure..

Talking about events, Nehantic Shield from the Scragh event is also something that could work well, one more def, one more damage for The Best Defence... and your draw get's better..


For mirror Matches, trying getting the Sentence Trophy..

Before Ardrakar I use to run a Prestige in my DK, but now the deck is much more ofencive and it only slows the decks, but i was a really awsome card, removing In the Name of the Dragon...

But these kind of card is not inside your reach so far..

So maybe Anathematize.. It hurts you as well but if you can do it while your Quimera is on game and his isn't..

If you had Void, you could try using his Quimera from his discard pile..

But all the solutions I can think about are expensive...

Still belive sentence is the cheapest of them..

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#11 06-02-2012 17:27:35

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

Wouldn't Extinction work well? Not only for mirror but for Nehants and Courts?


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#12 06-02-2012 17:36:48

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Ryken a écrit :

Wouldn't Extinction work well? Not only for mirror but for Nehants and Courts?

Could work, on nehants and Courts, but not so well on mirrors, since they can just bring it back with in the name of the dragon.

For nehants, Clumsiness and Dissidence are best options.

For courts, you beat them with magic attacks and Cut and Thrust (Since with the ice walls and victories they go with huge defence..

But for nehtans, Ardrakar Passive should fix your problems..

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#13 06-02-2012 17:48:42

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Calandra a écrit :

hmmm did anger someone or is ure title 'stupid monkey' an official one?

Can you spell donkey?
-10 for insulting.

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I'd replace ...  with ...:
- 1x Draconic Sword -> 1x Chimera
- 1x To the Rescue -> 1x Than the Sword
- 1x The Best Defense -> 1x The Last Action or 1x Than the Sword


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#14 06-02-2012 18:07:03

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

Nurvus a écrit :
Calandra a écrit :

hmmm did anger someone or is ure title 'stupid monkey' an official one?

Can you spell donkey?
-10 for insulting.

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I'd replace ...  with ...:
- 1x Draconic Sword -> 1x Chimera
- 1x To the Rescue -> 1x Than the Sword
- 1x The Best Defense -> 1x The Last Action or 1x Than the Sword

I don't think he was trying to insult. Unless he was, then yeah, failtacular.

I edited the deck to reflect how I have it now. I need [card]The Last Action[/card], which I'm selling a BUNCH of cards to attempt to afford. I added in Exctinction to better cope with mirror matches, Corruption Nehants and Courts...maybe even Compendium, Ice Elves...good all around card really, it's saved me in a couple of matches already.

That is, unless you guys recommend [card]...than the sword[/card] as a better alternative, or a better card all around.


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#15 06-02-2012 18:18:19

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

The Best Defence is an awsome card for DK, you can do +4 on turn  1 playing nothing..

You can chain on Knight's honnor, In the name of the dragon, Quimera and Cut and thrust with Ardrakar.. Or even with power if your playing it.

And if u manage to keep some swords on early game, you can do even more damage with it. It's a must have on a DK deck..

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#16 06-02-2012 18:37:52

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

Nurvus a écrit :
Calandra a écrit :

hmmm did anger someone or is ure title 'stupid monkey' an official one?

Can you spell donkey?
-10 for insulting.

Sorry that i forgot whether it was stupid donkey or monkey while i was writting a comment when i noticed he had that kind of nickname in forum... i m sure that never happens to you.

anyways. this is not my doing and not meant as an insult. i just noticed this name and as there is something pretty similar going on in another thread i thought someone is stalking him as well and changing players titles. i deeply apologize again mr.nervous as it wasnt my intention to misspell that insult. <.<


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#17 07-02-2012 04:08:47

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

it's odd; even without power cards like TLA, I find that I lose mostly when I don't pull out Chimera or Draconian Sword soon enough. Seriously, like, I'd say maybe 70% of the time if I don't pull off my weapons I lose. It kinda sucks. tongue

Ah well. I'm testing out [card]...than the sword[/card] and I'm liking it. Just one though. Using it on whoever is holding Chimera is a death sentence for my opponent. Good suggestion guys. smile


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#18 07-02-2012 05:28:06

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

What decks are DK's weak against?

I got curb-stomped 3 times in a row by a DK deck similar to yours.
Powder, Pirate Marauders, Armada rush is what I used..

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#19 07-02-2012 09:33:43

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

i m using a zil priest deck and usually i can detach the DK quite well since i go for their main stats... spirit and defence


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#20 07-02-2012 09:35:23

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Try putting a crown of the border to prevent reduction to your stats


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#21 07-02-2012 13:08:32

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

Yeah, Crown hurts. Usually Pirates can be pretty harsh, though the Powder Variants I can take apart fairly well. Discard also hurts, but with as hard as DKs hit they can go down pretty easy. Depends on your opening hand, really.

Got TLA this morning. Let's see how it in action. smile

EDIT: Oh, yeah. Foam Giant is another pain. I don't think there are many ways to get rid of Crown of the Border, but that's the big one right there. If he has plenty of items on him he'll just mow down everything in his path since there's no way to make his defense go bye-bye.

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#22 07-02-2012 17:02:15

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

How does DK fair against Noz Blasters?

Curious who would win the sword or the shield.


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#23 07-02-2012 17:15:12

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Re : Dragon Knights; Our Cause is Just

Agans't foam giant decks, you need Clumsiness..

Depends on how the amnenzy is running I pack one or two in the deck, currently I haven't seen one golem deck at all, so I'm not packing it at the moment..

But I'm having dificult with the draws, maybe I'm unlucky, but I had 4 games in a row that the first sword I got was on turn 4, and Chimera came on on turn 6 only..

So I'll take some time to study changes to the DK configuration.. If anthing improves I'll post here.



As for blasters, depends on the draw.. If you start with a Quimera + Dragon armor, or Quimera + cut and trusth or something that gives you good spirit, and equip on Kounuk or Ardrakar, they are hardly going to manage to kill you..

But if the guy start with 2 dragons breath and u got no card for raise spirit/heal ***bip*** dead.. But well, that happens to any regular character at all..


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#24 07-02-2012 17:33:24

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So by default Noz Blaster has the natural advantage? Since pretty much by default most decks get destroyed by the Blasters.

How bout against Crystal Storm decks?

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#25 07-02-2012 18:04:47

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Lindblum a écrit :

So by default Noz Blaster has the natural advantage? Since pretty much by default most decks get destroyed by the Blasters.

How bout against Crystal Storm decks?

crystal storm deck cant survive again blast...
coz blast full of expensive card so thats realy worth

mostly chain blast already deal 15 damage +


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