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#1 17-01-2012 22:17:07

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Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

Here I go again.

This is an idea born from mixing my Elite and Rank suggestions.

Suggestion #1 - Elite Stat: - http://forum.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?id=26131
My Elite Stat idea essentially aims at making you cannot have more than X Elite cards, wich are cards considered too powerful together:
- Certain cards are given Elite stat (just like Unique)
- It is determined that Decks can only have X Elite cards (I suggested 3 to 5)

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Suggestion #2 - Rank Stat: - http://forum.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?id=28526
My Rank Stat idea essentially aims at a Deck Budget, limiting the ability to make a deck full of imba cards, specially as design evolves, more and more cards are going to be attractive to different decks:
- Cards are given a Rank Value (I suggested 1 to 3, and for characters possibly 1 to 5)
- Decks can have X total Rank (I suggested 50, wich would mean a max average of ~2,17 Rank per card in the Deck)

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Suggestion #3 - Ranked Elite Stat:
This new idea is a mix of the two - a budgeted Elite Stat:
- Certain cards are given Elite (X)" stat
Example: Elite: 3
- Each deck can only have a total maximum of Y Elite value
Example: limit is 10, you can have 2x "Elite (3)" and 2x "Elite (2)" OR 3x "Elite (3)" and 1x "Elite (1)".


Feerik could implement #1, #2, #3, #1 + #2 or #2 + #3, as they work perfectly okay.

With any of those combinations, Feerik can finally balance decks without the need to ban cards at all. Period.

This way you:
- have more deck variants because you can't just shove everything into a deck
- know all your favorite cards will never be simply banned

Dernière modification par Nurvus (18-01-2012 00:11:17)


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#2 18-01-2012 00:02:07

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Re : Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

Have you have any positive feedback regarding these ideas from the staff?


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#3 18-01-2012 00:09:20

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Re : Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

Check the other topics.
I think Sapphon mentioned he'd talk to the Staff about one of them, but no response.


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#4 18-01-2012 00:13:11

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Re : Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

Yeah, it's just you seem to re post this stuff every couple of weeks. Would have thought they'd pick up on it already, if they were going to.


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#5 18-01-2012 00:38:57

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Re : Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

When did the Staff every give positive feedback?
They only ever say "we'll think about it".
When and if they ever implement something a player suggests, I wonder if they'll give credit to the idea or anything.
I wouldn't count on it.

Though, to be honest, it would be extremely awesome of any company to admit potential in customer ideas - not saying mine are it - and reward them appropriately, since afterall, lots of players are contributing freely towards games everyday, everywhere.

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#6 18-01-2012 04:04:00

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Re : Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

Did you ever think maybe 'We'll think about it' is a nice way of saying 'No?'

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#7 18-01-2012 04:08:36

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Re : Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

Did you know a "No" is always guaranteed?

What you do, is change it into a "maybe", and then into a "yes".


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#8 18-01-2012 17:12:20

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Re : Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

OMG not another one.

Elite= Nice, still something I feel should happen.

Rank= Hell no. People who spend money should not be penalized. As well determining a cards value is hard since some cards work better in some deck while not in other.

Elite Rank= Why the hell even bother? Elite is better.

Can we have this locked now...


Nurvus a écrit :

Did you know a "No" is always guaranteed?

What you do, is change it into a "maybe", and then into a "yes".

Or get banned for spam. (cough cough hint hint Sapphon)

Dernière modification par goscar (18-01-2012 17:13:26)


Dragon Knights ftw big_smile


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#9 18-01-2012 17:44:40

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Re : Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

Actually, spam, is posting to say someone is spamming, or essentially contribute nothing to the thread.

You should all apply for Moderators, but otherwise simply post on topic, or not at all.

This is about posting a 3rd possible way to balance the game.
Not implying wich is better, simply suggesting them as viable options.

Having any one of them implemented is better than none of them.

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#10 18-01-2012 18:07:31

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Re : Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

Only elite should be implented. But seeing as they modifing cards now even that may be not worth it now.

Also learn what spam is. What you said is called derailing a thread.

http://spam.abuse.net/overview/whatisspam.shtml

What is spam?

Spam is flooding the Internet with many copies of the same message, in an attempt to force the message on people who would not otherwise choose to receive it.

I wish our mods were back. Please stop with this it's annoying, if anything PM a Dev or a Staff member.

Dernière modification par goscar (18-01-2012 18:09:07)


Dragon Knights ftw big_smile


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#11 18-01-2012 18:38:14

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Re : Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

You're right, I meant derailing a thread.
Warning someone they're spamming, is spamming AND derailing the thread.
There are mods for that.

I understood your opinion, even though you don't make an effort to explain it.
I make an effort to explain it, and I'm spamming smile
When did I spam, btw?

I posted a new suggestion, where I gave a small summary of the previous 2 since the 3rd is a mix of them.

You seem to post more to derail threads into out of topic debates, than actually contribute to them with anything more than a yes or no without so much as a why.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (18-01-2012 18:44:28)


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#12 18-01-2012 19:54:16

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Nurvus a écrit :

You're right, I meant derailing a thread.
Warning someone they're spamming, is spamming AND derailing the thread.
There are mods for that.

How exactly is it spamming?  Did you even read the definition of spamming, or look further into what spam really is?  It's derailing and nothing more than that.  You're free to get your train back on the tracks, but don't expect us to help you.

Nurvus a écrit :

I understood your opinion, even though you don't make an effort to explain it.
I make an effort to explain it, and I'm spamming smile
When did I spam, btw?

I've explained my opinion about tacking on a third guild to existing characters vigorously.  Your other ideas are meh.  I don't need to know the source material to know that you're spamming.  You're necro-ing your threads and posting these sort of recap threads, desperately craving some feedback from the mods short of 'we'll think about it.'


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#13 18-01-2012 20:19:24

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Re : Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

I don't see where you get the idea I'm desperate.

Instead of creating "idea compenium" threads and the likes, I simply bring my old threads to the top of the forum,
- because I update something about them,
- or because a new change to the game has made the thread more relevant than before,
- or simply because new players might want to see this.

This isn't a recap thread. It isn't even spam nor necro - the subject is new, and I just linked to related subjects - You simply came here to attack me.

You're defending yourself from something I said to Goscar, yet apparently you know it applies to you - always so passionate about discussing off-topic subjects, but rarely the topic itself.

Everyone saw how vigorously you defended your point of view by ignoring parts of what I said in the Third Guild thread, to the point of posting to say "the part where I cared."

I find it amusing you post to complain about my topic, because, in the end, I made a thread about something that belongs in the Suggestion forums.
You, in the other hand, posted nothing that belongs here.

Check your posts in this thread and many others.
Check how the majority of your posts in any thread, only come after it's derailed into something else - usually a moral debate - just like you did here.

You probably post as much ontopic as I post offtopic.
I'll just ignore your offtopic posts from now on, ok?
You can just ignore me altogether, and everyone will be happy. wink

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#14 19-01-2012 06:21:44

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Re : Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

The Elite idea is pretty interesting

The Rank idea is kinda of bad, it would be almost impossible to balance and be a massive undertaking

The Elite Rank idea is a nice expansion on the Elite idea
It says that some Elites are better than others, which is probably very true

I like Elite Rank the most


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#15 29-04-2012 15:55:20

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Re : Card Stat - Ranked Elite (Elite & Rank Hybrid)

Talamare a écrit :

The Elite idea is pretty interesting

The Rank idea is kinda of bad, it would be almost impossible to balance and be a massive undertaking

The Elite Rank idea is a nice expansion on the Elite idea
It says that some Elites are better than others, which is probably very true

I like Elite Rank the most

Thanks for your feedback. Any more opinions?


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