Eredan's World

ShinoKaito · 20-07-2011 13:42:10

Hello I have been looking for reviews about the new lightning update for mages, but i dont see a single significant thread.. so.. what do you think of the deck?

Bragan (lightning)
Lightning Beak
Mylad

3 Lightning rod
3 Sky inhabitant
2 Dance of thunder snakes
1 Static charge
1 Lightning chain
2 struck by lightning
3 flash for ward
2 philosophical debate
1 root
2 ice barrier/ dominate d opponent

What do you think?
maybe a bigger damage like arcanium or rain of death would do?
i can see that the deck mainly tries to harrass the opponent slowly, as if sky inhabitant are on all three characters ( i dont know if lightning rod will enhance the damage or not) it will be quite a pain to use anything. then maybe flash forward can be used to decrease damage

philosophical debate can also be a boost as it can be chained to anything else, 1 root can also help as mylad is courtesan

and dominate the opponent of course, can be used in combo with lightning rod

it's a full chain deck

jackal19 · 20-07-2011 13:48:34

One character can screw this deck up [card]Thunder King[/card] so i recommend you put some spells besides lightning ones and of course all your characters are squishy

Dernière modification par jackal19 (20-07-2011 13:49:54)

Francesco_Sorbello · 20-07-2011 14:00:14

This is not say that you have to give,it's fun to use,but unfortunately relies almost totally on the [card]lightning rod[/card] and if you take them out if you'll just take off the deck one crumbles in room levels is fun to use but ELO does not do many way

ShinoKaito · 20-07-2011 14:03:21

right, thunder king will surely screw up the deck.. hmm.. and it is really dependent on lightning rod eh? hmm i dont think lightning beak's effect that useful too, it's really conditional dont you think so?

ZeroClass · 20-07-2011 14:13:37

If you want to do other magic damage, try to have supply, catch and pheonix so that you'll be able to do fire magic damage

Rathedan · 20-07-2011 14:40:21

Actually built a lightning mage deck. Not the same as this, more concentrated on total lightning (but as was mentioned, should have some fire for backup)

It has its ups, but the mechanics of some of the cards are a bit wierd and take away from the whole thing.

ShinoKaito · 21-07-2011 00:28:34

I see, thank you so much for the info sky inhabitant's artwork is awesome!

killrex2 · 21-07-2011 02:12:34

For my deck, i just threw in some mystic staffs so that i can up mylad's spirit to 5 and also lightning beak's and all i do is make sure mylad stays alive til the end. Pretty fun deck that can deal tons of damage if you draw a good first hand and play your cards right.
p.s. also, having a mystic staff on ardranis on an even turn can give her a good 5 spirit. which helps a lot when you play a good spell and then hit with her 2 attacks on somebody with low defense.

Dernière modification par killrex2 (22-07-2011 04:20:35)

Rathedan · 21-07-2011 14:27:23

Never thought of upping mylads spirit. Not a bad idea. I'll give it a shot. I'm actually going to add stone ritual though, that way, if mylad dies, everyon gets the benefit still.

Sure it's unique and won't surface all the time, but that's fine. There is very little room for extra cards though, if you max out the lightning aspect. Rods actually have a total of 6 chances of being out if you include Struck by lightning. So thats a 30% chance of at least having one rod on the first turn....which is really good.

Current build:

RyogaLX · 21-07-2011 16:54:32

I had perform some test about this kind of decks and I thought that it lacks on real defense... offensive capability is fine but Flash of ward is not enough to deal with.
I put 2x Tada you'r a bunny to increase survival chance, when you had attached Static charges on Peak or Sky inhabitants on any character the only thing that you need is defense. I use to use some rain of death in this decks cuz some times you need to kill quick.

I have some doubts about this decks, against mages and aggro decks you have many many problems, the deck is quiet slow and area of effect spells don't benefit from rods.

How to improve defensive capabilities of this decks without limit his potential?
How to affront mage decks without Sky inhabitants and rods? (Spirit=0 effects like 3 of the trophies).

Rathedan · 21-07-2011 17:17:17

You know what'd make it good?

Lightning rods have +1 Def on top of thier current ability, or mirror Mylads ability and add 1 direct damage when attacked.....that'd make it way more competitive.

Or just make a separate card, like Ice barrier, but make it lightning Barrier with +1 Def and 1 damage when attacked.

Personally I like the glass cannon approach, but people would get frustrated with it.

Aigle1705 · 21-07-2011 17:40:31

got a question.

what if a Noz-Deck uses:
[card]Dragon's Wit[/card]+[card]struck by lightning[/card]
will the [card]Lightning rod[/card]s be added to the Noz Chars or not?

could some try? i hav no struck.^^

RyogaLX · 21-07-2011 18:42:58

Rathedan a écrit :

You know what'd make it good?
Lightning rods have +1 Def on top of thier current ability, or mirror Mylads ability and add 1 direct damage when attacked.....that'd make it way more competitive.
Or just make a separate card, like Ice barrier, but make it lightning Barrier with +1 Def and 1 damage when attacked.
Personally I like the glass cannon approach, but people would get frustrated with it.

If we talk about mage glass cannon is other different thing... this deck don't have nothing of glass cannon... rarely you kill in first 3 turns =/

Rathedan · 21-07-2011 18:46:50

rarely you kill in first 3 turns =/

I can kill often by turn 3, but only if I don't die first.. usually by then, its a 3 on 2 for turn 4 onwards, and its a win.

The big issue is the needing to keep everyone alive the first three turns or you're toast. With the weak defense and health, its hard sometimes.

The deck totally is a all-or-nothing style...which I think will make me lose interest in it soon.

RyogaLX · 21-07-2011 19:20:16

Rathedan a écrit :

I can kill often by turn 3, but only if I don't die first.. usually by then, its a 3 on 2 for turn 4 onwards, and its a win.
The big issue is the needing to keep everyone alive the first three turns or you're toast. With the weak defense and health, its hard sometimes.
The deck totally is a all-or-nothing style...which I think will make me lose interest in it soon.

I disagree, is slow, spells kicks multiple times with a little damages if enemy has at least 2 spirit resist easy to your effects. Cards that gives spirit, reduce damage inflicted and negate spells can kill this deck easy, and you Rods CAN'T deal with that defense and your defense is pretty low for a mage deck. Lighting peak depends on mylad, Bragan has 2 basic spirit (Boosted until theoretical 4= 3 + 1 damage with lighting).

Yes some games this deck could be good and deal huge amount of damage but to be honest is one of the worst mage deck. I love it but it's sadly true... Face it =/

Dernière modification par RyogaLX (21-07-2011 20:04:18)

Reycom · 21-07-2011 19:29:28

RyogaLX a écrit :

Rathedan a écrit :
I can kill often by turn 3, but only if I don't die first.. usually by then, its a 3 on 2 for turn 4 onwards, and its a win.
The big issue is the needing to keep everyone alive the first three turns or you're toast. With the weak defense and health, its hard sometimes.
The deck totally is a all-or-nothing style...which I think will make me lose interest in it soon.
I disagree, is slow, spells kicks multiple times with a little damages if enemy has at least 2 spirit resist easy to your effects. Cards that gives spirit, reduce damage inflicted and negate spells can kill this deck easy, and you Rods can deal with that defense and your defense is pretty low for a mage deck. Lighting peak depends on mylad, Bragan has 2 basic spirit (Boosted until theoretical 4= 3 + 1 damage with lighting).
Yes some games this deck could be good and deal huge amount of damage but to be honest is one of the worst mage deck. I love it but it's sadly true... Face it =/

I agree .... and i really like pirates ......

killrex2 · 22-07-2011 00:49:55

this is the only pirate deck i have ever used, and thats only because [card]Mylad[/card] is so cool and the artwork for sky inhabitant caught my eye and if youre worried about defense, there's always [card]Ardranis[/card] and she can also lay some physical attacks on opponents with high spirit.

Nurvus · 22-07-2011 00:50:17

Mylad can play [card]Philosophical Debate[/card]

killrex2 · 14-09-2011 01:49:13

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j36 … aaaa-1.jpg

After the long hours of battling i finally got a win! but i seriously cannot wait for them to help this deck out with some good cards. (btw today i had 2 wins and 8 loses) Of course this deck isn't complete but there's no way it can be with the cards out right now.

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j36 … d/DAMN.jpg
http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j36 … /DAMN2.jpg

Dernière modification par killrex2 (22-09-2011 23:14:49)

iQuit · 14-09-2011 14:34:50

feerik needs to give pirate mages some love .
This pirate mage deck is the ony mage deck i really want to have (because of the artworks )

MrLordi92 · 14-09-2011 19:35:54

iQuit a écrit :

feerik needs to give pirate mages some love .
This pirate mage deck is the ony mage deck i really want to have (because of the artworks )

They need to give Pirates in general some love.

Dracatis · 14-09-2011 21:02:04

Since I'm not currently using it I guess I'll tell you guys my secret deck...

Mylad
Thunder King
Captian Killicrew (-spirit)

Key cards:
Thunder King items (can be used on Captian too)
Static Charge (Thunder King can play these too)
Pirate Code
Pirate Legend
Supplying
Pheonix Flames
Dance of the Thunder Snakes
Stone Ritual (How can you guys forget this? So good with Static Charge, Lightning Beak and the sheer fact Mylad is gonna die eventually)

Optional:
Lightning Rod
Sky inhabitant
Lightning chain
struck by lightning
flash for ward
philosophical debate
mage's grand staff
mirage cloak

I'm not gonna put the amounts I put in, leave that to your tweaking. Basically this is a Mage breaker deck. You start with -1 spirit to all them. Crowns take more spirit and defense from them. Armor hurts them if they use magic damage (great to counter Crow too). If their not mages, spears will hurt them if they have weapons or armor. Remember Thunder King can cast any lightning spells and is immune to mages that use it against him. Lastly, if all else fails Pheonix cleans house and gives you a chance to win.

Also maybe this will get some more people yelling for Thunder King's items set bonus to be fixed. It's not deck ruining to not have it, but it would be really nice and make it more an ELO strong deck if they worked like their supposed to.

Tips:
Always play Crowns before the Spear if possible, the crown will lower the spirit then spear will do an additional damage.
Always play Stone Ritual even if Mylad is gonna die. Spears and Thunder King using lightning spells need them to have low spirit. This also helps make sure Pheonix gives you more points(damage to yourself gives them points btw).
Don't forget Mylad can use Pheonix and Pirate Codes.

Dernière modification par Dracatis (14-09-2011 21:30:37)

iQuit · 15-09-2011 11:05:13

I have no idea why Captian Killicrew(-1 spirit version) is a warrior . Powder strategy doesn't use that version and pirate mages really need that abiity

Dracatis · 15-09-2011 17:48:15

iQuit a écrit :

I have no idea why Captian Killicrew(-1 spirit version) is a warrior . Powder strategy doesn't use that version and pirate mages really need that abiity

Sure, you don't start with 3 powder on everyone. But they start with their lower spirit which means your more likely gonna get more out of Pheonix. Pirate Legend is like a buffed up supplying giving 4 powder if you play it before supplying (otherwise it lets you draw two additional cards in my deck). With her other version Pirate Legend could only be useful for drawing cards.

She is your tank in this deck. Playing Pirate Code with Armor of the Thunder King while Mylad plays a spell + Pirate Legend(or supplying if you don't have Legend) pretty much assures that she isn't dying anytime soon (especially if she can play more codes and complete the Thunder King set). And if she can't finish the job, BOOM, at least you'll get the chance to outscore them rather then one survive and you auto lose.

Dernière modification par Dracatis (15-09-2011 17:49:36)

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#1 20-07-2011 13:42:10

Pirate Lightning Mages

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Re : Pirate Lightning Mages

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