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#1 16-06-2011 05:00:22

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New Noz Cards

Seem so weak its not even that funny. i mean oh look your dk can  live long woohoo but i wont help that much. this was just a poor release on noz...

i mean the legendary isnt bad but the others eh. it is lacking. i mean chimera lv2 isnt even dual wield. only lv 1 hmm


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#2 16-06-2011 19:23:40

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Re : New Noz Cards

Haku-Men a écrit :

Seem so weak its not even that funny. i mean oh look your dk can  live long woohoo but i wont help that much. this was just a poor release on noz...

i mean the legendary isnt bad but the others eh. it is lacking. i mean chimera lv2 isnt even dual wield. only lv 1 hmm


weak? lol you can have chimera + a life devourer + dragon armor (5 spirit = 5hp heal) and play last action 4 times + having that permanent action that heals 4hp if you are -1 or below

Seems pretty cool to me

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#3 16-06-2011 19:37:37

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Re : New Noz Cards

Yes that combination seens really strong. Power + Than the sword will get you more 9 dmg plus 2+ hp heal. The real problem is that its unique, so its pretty hard to manage to have it all together, and some simple cards like, freeze, desarm and many other can ruin all your deck.

I like these new cards, but I guess the DK was considered so underpowered that everyone was expecting that when they released new DK cards it would make them an elo top deck , or at least really strong. (I still have to try it, waiting for prices to drop, while I level zahal and kounuk, but it dosent seens so).

The deck main weakness remain, depends too much on one strategy, while before the release was dragons wits, now its on quimera. You can still use a Paladin Hammer with a Life devourer, but Solar's Anger(or Fury? not sure of how its in english) it not really usefull anymore, since it will put spirit to 0 and make quimera useless..

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#4 16-06-2011 19:43:29

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Re : New Noz Cards

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Yes that combination seens really strong. You don't even need last action, Power + Than the sword will get you more 9 dmg plus 2+ hp heal. The real problem is that its unique, so its pretty hard to manage to have it all together, and some simple cards like, freeze, desarm and many other can ruin all your deck.

I like these new cards, but I guess the DK was considered so underpowered that everyone was expecting that when they released new DK cards it would make them an elo top deck , or at least really strong. (I still have to try it, waiting for prices to drop, while I level zahal and kounuk, but it dosent seens so).

The deck main weakness remain, depends too much on one strategy, while before the release was dragons wits, now its on quimera. You can still use a Paladin Hammer with a Life devourer, but Solar's Anger(or Fury? not sure of how its in english) it not really usefull anymore, since it will put spirit to 0 and make quimera useless..

Att.

This deck has plenty versatility with dragon fangs, multiple equipments, magic attack and the new combos


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#5 16-06-2011 20:34:52

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Dragon Fangs its a joke, in my opinion, in order to be good you need to spam draconic swords and manage an armor invocation... Or you will manage something like 5 magic damage less the enemy spirit. And since many decks can one hit  dragon knights most of the times (Ex: WB, Sap heart, noz blasters, zil abobination decks, eclipse..) its too much of a bet to be usefull.

Magic Attack is a counter for high armor, not a strategy on its own.

And i think, quimera + life devourer + dragon armor is alredy the multiple items strategy...

So I dont see the versability...


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#6 16-06-2011 20:41:40

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Re : New Noz Cards

Paladino.:RR:. a écrit :

Dragon Fangs its a joke, in my opinion, in order to be good you need to spam draconic swords and manage an armor invocation... Or you will manage something like 5 magic damage less the enemy spirit. And since many decks can one hit  dragon knights most of the times (Ex: WB, Sap heart, noz blasters, zil abobination decks, eclipse..) its too much of a bet to be usefull.

Magic Attack is a counter for high armor, not a strategy on its own.

And i think, quimera + life devourer + dragon armor is alredy the multiple items strategy...

So I dont see the versability...


well you need to test them then, cause i've seen the new combos and they are pretty nasty (you can mix them with some old ones)

PS: DK's are not easily OHKO'able)

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#7 16-06-2011 21:38:26

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Re : New Noz Cards

I had perform some test of DK cards and I found that...

- Chimera is awesome weapon, really
- [card]In the name of dragon[/card] chance totally the perspective and functionality of DKs.
- Dragon champion is really pretty nice card that increase defensive and survivability of DKs.
- Now the spell [card]The last word[/card] has dual or more funtionality for DKs.
- The last cations can by played about 4 times thanks to [card]In the name of dragon[/card].


Some ideas comes to my mind using ishaia o.o'


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#8 16-06-2011 22:00:27

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Re : New Noz Cards

I just find it odd that [card]Black Chimera[/card] is the opposite of [card]Draconian Sword[/card] and has absolutely no functional similarities to Chimera.

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#9 16-06-2011 22:36:23

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Re : New Noz Cards

Nurvus a écrit :

I just find it odd that [card]Black Chimera[/card] is the opposite of [card]Draconian Sword[/card] and has absolutely no functional similarities to Chimera.

Hmmm Black Chimera it's better but this weapons has similarities


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#10 16-06-2011 23:40:03

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Re : New Noz Cards

I mean Black Chimera is -nothing- like Chimera or Fragment of Chimera (the new cards).

Instead, it is the antithesis of Draconian Sword.


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#11 16-06-2011 23:45:53

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Re : New Noz Cards

Nurvus a écrit :

I mean Black Chimera is -nothing- like Chimera or Fragment of Chimera (the new cards).

Instead, it is the antithesis of Draconian Sword.

the strong atithesis of draconian sword... sinceyou reduce the attack and def of all chars and not only from DK


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#12 16-06-2011 23:56:34

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Re : New Noz Cards

Chimera is awesome especially if you have high spirit heals more better than pala hammer too bad its still susceptible to item destroyers though.


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#13 17-06-2011 00:13:07

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Re : New Noz Cards

jackal19 a écrit :

Chimera is awesome especially if you have high spirit heals more better than pala hammer too bad its still susceptible to item destroyers though.

Not with In the Name of the Dragon.


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#14 17-06-2011 00:23:17

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Re : New Noz Cards

Nurvus a écrit :
jackal19 a écrit :

Chimera is awesome especially if you have high spirit heals more better than pala hammer too bad its still susceptible to item destroyers though.

Not with In the Name of the Dragon.

yeah unless you got freeze or anathemed  but thats uncommon overall its still a great strat especially with thepen is mightier than the sword combo +2 perma spirit and it grows more stronger cause of chimera.

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#15 17-06-2011 00:36:40

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Re : New Noz Cards

Restored Honor helps getting it back from deck.
In the Name of the Dragon helps getting it back from the graveyard.

Someone properly using Anathematize against you has merit, just like someone using Obesity on your important Action or Counterspell on your important Spell.


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#16 17-06-2011 01:10:17

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Re : New Noz Cards

the deck is just to item dependent for me with out your sword u get owned easily. and so many decks now run at least one freeze, and using Anathematize it really cant be to good

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