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Nurvus · 05-03-2011 03:38:51

By reading [card]Simple Axe[/card], it gives the impression that if a character is lucky enough to be equipped with 2 of them, each will give +2 attack.

Instead, only the second axe played gains the extra attack bonus - a mechanic similar to [card]Flail[/card], wich would be better written like "An additional Attack +2 if your character has a Simple Axe attached to himself the moment this card is played.".

The way I thought it worked, it seemed somewhat reasonable, and even then only for Marauders, because a [card]Short Sword[/card] + [card]Simple Dagger[/card] would still be better for Warriors, since not only there isn't a interdependence, but Simple Dagger also activates immediately.

The way it actually works, it really seems like a waste of room in any deck, even with the Mercenary that gains chain on Axes.
Is it working properly or is it a bug?

If it's not a bug, and if I'm not missing something, I strongly suggest that either:
- make both axes update their attack when together (to a total of +4)
- or leave the bonus as it is, update the text to reflect it, but make them activate instantly.
Note: Unlike Simple Dagger they can only dual wield with each other - or items that dual wield with anything, but that defeats the whole purpose of the Simple Axe card.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (05-03-2011 03:45:30)

steven_allen · 08-03-2011 15:17:49

there are going to be cards that are less useful in every game man. Just because you dont like the way it works doesnt mean its going to change. Part of the game is figuring out which cards are those less-useful ones. Simple Axe was among the first cards released. Cards have gotten more and more powerful as the game has matured. Thats just the nature of the game.

Nurvus · 12-03-2011 16:50:31

1 - About some cards being better than others, sure, but let it happen due to synergy. There doesn't need to be trash cards at all. The more useful cards the more creativity fosters and keeps players interested in the game.

As it is, Simple Axe is not even remotely useful when comparing to Simple Dagger or Short Sword. 1 Short Sword is as strong as 2 Simple Axes together, takes only 1 spot in the deck, and you don't depend on drawing 2 of them.

2 - About cards getting more powerful - neglecting older cards brings no good to the game. It actually starts giving players the idea that cool cards will be made useless with time, and that the game doesn't reward acquiring cards over time - instead it only promotes ditching the old and grabbing the new, over and over.

It's a very dangerous system.

Everyone knows that letting players be creative and look into old, popular and new cards alike when thinking of building a deck, will only improve the game's longevity - instead of pushing everyone into a single group of viable decks and neglecting previous cards and risking scaring players away.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (12-03-2011 16:53:23)

bleachman · 13-03-2011 21:41:24

The card is a common. Why should it be good?

I could understand such a thread, if it actually concerned cards that should be good, such as [card]Antimagic Glyph[/card] being an utterly useless and really rare card. But instead you waste the time, effort and thought on a simple common card.

In addition, suggestions are to be posted in the appropriate forum. We have an entire forum dedicated to player suggestions.

Nurvus · 16-03-2011 04:01:35

bleachman a écrit :

The card is a common. Why should it be good?
I could understand such a thread, if it actually concerned cards that should be good, such as [card]Antimagic Glyph[/card] being an utterly useless and really rare card. But instead you waste the time, effort and thought on a simple common card.
In addition, suggestions are to be posted in the appropriate forum. We have an entire forum dedicated to player suggestions.

A) - Because all cards should be good.
- It's okay if lack of synergy benches a potentially good card.
- It's not okay if a card is designed to just suck...
B) - Because alot of common cards are not just good ([card]Short Sword[/card], [card]Simple Dagger[/card]) but awesome ([card]Lightning Chain[/card], [card]Katamaru[/card], etc).

As for the topic, I did start it as a discussion/question - only after several edits did I add the suggestion.
Should've thought it through before posting, sorry

Dernière modification par Nurvus (16-03-2011 04:12:23)

bleachman · 16-03-2011 04:25:46

Nurvus a écrit :

bleachman a écrit :
The card is a common. Why should it be good?
I could understand such a thread, if it actually concerned cards that should be good, such as [card]Antimagic Glyph[/card] being an utterly useless and really rare card. But instead you waste the time, effort and thought on a simple common card.
In addition, suggestions are to be posted in the appropriate forum. We have an entire forum dedicated to player suggestions.
A) - Because all cards should be good.
- It's okay if lack of synergy benches a potentially good card.
- It's not okay if a card is designed to just suck...
B) - Because alot of common cards are not just good ([card]Short Sword[/card], [card]Simple Dagger[/card]) but awesome ([card]Lightning Chain[/card], [card]Katamaru[/card], etc).
As for the topic, I did start it as a discussion/question - only after several edits did I add the suggestion.
Should've thought it through before posting, sorry

If every card was supposed to be 'awesome', then there would be no need for rarity amongst the different cards. The whole concept of TCGs is based on some cards being more frequent, or common, and less powerful, or good, as other cards that are more rare and for that powerful. Exceptions to this rule do apply, meaning some commons might be really great and rares on other hand can be crappy too.

Instead of expecting the most common shit to be good, be glad you have a few exceptions that are really usable. I have seen many TCGs were most common cards are trash and hardly of any use. Eredan is one of the few with some really awesome common cards.

Nurvus · 16-03-2011 04:31:26

No need to exaggerate
The common cards don't need to be awesome, not even good!
Just not awful, pretty please

With Eredan being a great game, why would other games' bad habits be anything worth following?

And besides, Simple Axe wouldn't be anywhere near awesome if both axes updated the attack to +2 attack when you dual wield them.
It would in fact still be inferior to Short Sword+Simple Dagger combo, or even 2x Simple Dagger.

The Axe-chaining Mercenary would probably be the only one using them, if at all.

Afterall I would've guessed the axes were either conceptually aimed at him (by the type), or The Pack (from the art).

Dernière modification par Nurvus (16-03-2011 04:37:43)

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