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#101 28-04-2012 08:12:44

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

Calandra a écrit :
Cossette a écrit :

Can anyone give me the percentage of getting the king? its been 2 days for me...

i got him today in the morning... ive tried at least 15 times... but i dont think thats a valid percentage just for itself without further droprates... some other guy got him on first attempt so his rate would be 100%... gotta ask the staff and as i read a comment by sapphon the percentage should increase the more u try... but thats just how i would love it to be and maybe not whats fact

my only question is does it still increase if you lose the fight? cause if it only increases when you win then I'm in trouble.


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#102 28-04-2012 09:31:45

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

Sapphon a écrit :

The drop rate of the king has been calculated so you can get him for free if you farm the campain, even if you're really unlucky.

idk... how would you interpret this sentence? for me it states that the droprate should somewhat reach 75-100% if u just keep farming him... means, the more often u try the higher the percentage of success (well thats clear.. but u know what i m pointing at?)


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#103 28-04-2012 09:56:00

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

There shuld be just option to buy that king like other trophies, it's not hard i'ts immposible , and not because hes immposible to beat, I dont have nehantis corruption deck neither nomad marauders, even if I wish to sell some avalonians swords or icy rusty hand's from mine decks and buy nehantis deck, I can't because when  quest popping up that needs certain deck/cards to do this , they're just dissapearing from shop, so if I can't get  cards needed to beat him then this quest is officialy immposible to finish hmm


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#104 28-04-2012 11:00:58

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

-Just wanna ask... can you post whats coming a week before the release, so we can have a chance to get prepared on updates...

-no more surprise please... at least on adventure quest

Dernière modification par Cossette (28-04-2012 11:11:28)


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#105 28-04-2012 12:51:49

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

Sapphon a écrit :

The drop rate of the king has been calculated so you can get him for free if you farm the campain, even if you're really unlucky.
The King isn't what we can call an overpowered character. You won't need him to get in high elo or to free farm PvE, and he won't magically make Ice Elves decks unbeatable. Therefore, there is absolutly no obligation to get him at all cost, except if you're collecting Ice Elves, or cards in general.
So we are not forcing anybody to Fee'z : there are 4 cards to get on this campain : 2 free and really easy, 1 a "bit" more complicated, and the last will need you to farm. But none of the items are essential. So you really don't need to Fee'z if you don't want to. The only downside is that there may be some holes in your collection. I'm pretty sure you can survive this ;p

As for the difficulty, it's wanted. There are some players who want to encounter something hard once in a while. For them, we will sometimes release some harder boss.

I sugget that once the player beat the king, his chance increase (by maybe 2% per game) to get the card next time.
this way, a player who win 10 times can at least have a 20% chance to obtain the king.

and that's for sure that he can obtain the king after 50  winnings.   (2%*50)

I know there are a lot of player who would like to spend 1000 Feez (maybe 2000 or more) to get this card.
but without a promised chance, they are afraid of spending money out, and getting nothing in return.

so I  believe it's much fair for those who are willing to pay to get the card. and they will be willing to pay because they know there's a promised chance to get the card.

and feerik can also earn money from those players.
both good to eath other, then why not do it.


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#106 28-04-2012 13:02:47

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

I suggest that you edit your posts instead of creating multi posts

Ikuyal a écrit :

I sugget that once the player beat the king, his chance increase (by maybe 2% per game) to get the card next time.

this is EXACTLY how it works...
http://forum.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?p … 71#p524771


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#107 28-04-2012 13:20:45

Ikuyal
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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

skadooosh a écrit :

I suggest that you edit your posts instead of creating multi posts

Ikuyal a écrit :

I sugget that once the player beat the king, his chance increase (by maybe 2% per game) to get the card next time.

this is EXACTLY how it works...
http://forum.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?p … 71#p524771

oh this really helped
thanks
if this is how it works
the system is not far from what I suggested,
only the uncertainty is the number of boxes.
why  doesn't eredan give a more precisely number?

over 50.....it could be 500......OMG

I think eredan can make the number smaller
because it's a time limit mission
not permanent
other wise you should set a "buy option"

my friend win over 30 time but doesn't have the king yet.

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#108 28-04-2012 13:29:22

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

for what we (on the french forum) know there are maximum 60 boxes...
(if you wanna know how we know, it's because sapphon said to a player that had already beaten him 30 times that he already oppened way more than half the boxes....
http://forum.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?p … 89#p561689  =>in french)
but it looks like they may be a problem with the looting on this boss...
there are severals (2 at least) players that fought more than 60 matches and didn't loot him which means there is a bug...
http://forum.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?id=41290

Dernière modification par skadooosh (28-04-2012 13:30:20)


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#109 28-04-2012 14:01:44

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

got him after c.a. 15 wins, the6th iced card for me big_smile


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#110 28-04-2012 14:04:58

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

Brzost a écrit :

got him after c.a. 15 wins, the6th iced card for me big_smile

6th? How many iced cards are there?

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#111 28-04-2012 14:06:49

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

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#112 28-04-2012 14:14:43

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

Zurga a écrit :

Yulven, Yilith

Doh -_- absentmindedness of mine...

Good thing he can be used in Training Room, because getting him from 0 exp to over 1120 is... boring.

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#113 28-04-2012 18:43:02

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

oh man, i'm not gonna get this card... I KEEP losing!


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#114 28-04-2012 18:44:47

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

hotfoot a écrit :

oh man, i'm not gonna get this card... I KEEP losing!

Np im farming him and neither getting, rng sucks


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#115 28-04-2012 19:30:44

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

...sigh.. this mission is infuriating, I break down an buy a couple of overpriced [card]double clay[/card]'s to try an make the deck that Nurvus posted, the one I'm assuming most are having luck beating him with (since my previous corruption deck was doing crap) and he decides to wait to put out his Rages until turn 6! at which point I've used all my [card]demon may rise[/card] cards which are now in the discard!..... sigh...


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#116 28-04-2012 20:14:14

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

The same situation, I've used  [card]Magic Attack[/card] and [card]Recycle magic[/card] to get my portals back but even with this you can do nothing if your DMR isn't showing in your hand.

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#117 28-04-2012 21:01:31

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

u dont need clay double (i think it sounds better then double clay)... i used a nehantist mage deck without... only thing u have to have is a bit of luck, skill (in the sense of knowing what awaits u) and demon combo

1.) luck: of course in the drops u need luck, but also with starting hands, anyways never give up... the fight is over when its over not before... i managed to get all but dimizar one shotted and then dimizar finished him off solo

2.) skill: u know ure enemy is hitting hard and his attack increases faster then any other enemy ever seen in eredan since start... so use it... make a deck that has 7 key cards (3 demon rise, 3 portals, 1 2nd-chain) the rest is are fillers that can or cant have some use... like coaching, or picknic, or whatnot... BUT only 1 card each type to increase his attack

3.) use the demon combo wisely... means start right off and make him a demon... u need only 3 shots to finish him in most cases...
for me it somehow always happens that he rages in turn 1-3 so just go for it...

-in his turn, use demon may rise, only if he is not in rage
-use break 2nd chain only in ure turn so that u ll be getting all of his bonus
-clumsiness and magic attack can be usefull
-if u run out of shots (portals) remember that there are some favors which are usefull... in most cases u will win by points anyways so there is one favor giving ure char his minimum attack... could come in handy as a finishing move

its possible to do it without extra expensive cards that u dont have as long as u have the 3 mages and the demon combo cards


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#118 28-04-2012 21:58:26

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

But how do you deal with the crazy defense? no matter if things go according to plan by time I hit him two times his defense is so high I'm only doing like 7 dmg or less.


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#119 28-04-2012 22:05:00

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

hotfoot a écrit :

But how do you deal with the crazy defense? no matter if things go according to plan by time I hit him two times his defense is so high I'm only doing like 7 dmg or less.

[card]Magic attack[/card], [card]clumsiness[/card], anything that can discard his [card]icy aura[/card] or just burst him in 2~3 rounds with eclipses before he even got time to buff his defense


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#120 28-04-2012 22:35:18

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

hotfoot a écrit :

But how do you deal with the crazy defense? no matter if things go according to plan by time I hit him two times his defense is so high I'm only doing like 7 dmg or less.

i dont know how you manage to let him get his defence get so high... in most fights against him the fight ended round 5 sometimes even 4... the trick is to push his attack up to 17-20+ so that even his defence wont be much of a help...

if i d know how i would make a video and show it... its not hard... just discard everything that is useless... means EVERY single thing that is not belonging to the 3 key cards... even if something might be usefull in next turn like coaching and u know that dimi is going next fight... dont keep it... drop it and stick to the combo

once he is raged and u have a demon portal in hand you can try to decrease his defence... by using cards like clumsiness or magic attack, revealing the secret or whatnot... even favors can help here (but u seldom need them, only when the king plays all 3 icy auras super duper early in game)

another helpfull tip may be just to remember the following:
the best deck can still lose to some noobish deckbuild because of a bad hand. keep it in mind and dont get frustrated... just hang in and keep on going

i m not saying that following my tips will give u the 100% win chance but i d like to say i won an 80%... u can always lose when all 3 demon my rise are in the back of your deck... or u start the fight with 3 demon portal in hand and thus block ureself cause u cant really discard (even then u can discard and use the scissor favor which gives 2-3 cards back from grave)

good luck anyways


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#121 28-04-2012 22:42:28

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

I won this Elf king with 4 different decks :
- The nehantist one (portal / Demon may rise)
- Eclipse (with dazzle)
- Pirate marauders (with [card]stink bomb[/card])
- Elfine multi-attack (with [card]The Weight of Knowledge[/card])

By the way, put some [card]Scroll of Immobility[/card],  [card]The Weight of Knowledge[/card], [card]the end of an era[/card] is always a good idea, this depend of your deck of course.
But you can make some good winning deck without a lot of crystals.


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#122 28-04-2012 22:57:52

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

Well I know some of the Def boost just comes from the beginning when I'm waiting for him to rage out, in my experience he doesn't till at least turn 3 or 4 an he always plays the aura first, my characters attack an even though they're mages they have attacks of 3/5 so they may do him 1 or 2 dmg but his def will go up by 2 an next thing I know he's got a 10 def.


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#123 28-04-2012 23:11:51

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

hotfoot a écrit :

Well I know some of the Def boost just comes from the beginning when I'm waiting for him to rage out, in my experience he doesn't till at least turn 3 or 4 an he always plays the aura first, my characters attack an even though they're mages they have attacks of 3/5 so they may do him 1 or 2 dmg but his def will go up by 2 an next thing I know he's got a 10 def.

If your characters are mages: Magic Attack

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#124 28-04-2012 23:16:40

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

Nurvus a écrit :
hotfoot a écrit :

Well I know some of the Def boost just comes from the beginning when I'm waiting for him to rage out, in my experience he doesn't till at least turn 3 or 4 an he always plays the aura first, my characters attack an even though they're mages they have attacks of 3/5 so they may do him 1 or 2 dmg but his def will go up by 2 an next thing I know he's got a 10 def.

If your characters are mages: Magic Attack

smile

dont have any, none on the market, only have about 2k of crystals to my name anyway. hmm


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#125 29-04-2012 00:02:00

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Re : April 25th 2012 : King Hrimnir' Tomb

finally got him!
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