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#1 06-02-2012 15:01:56

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~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

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#2 06-02-2012 17:34:26

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Re : ~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

I think [card]It is Time[/card] and [card]Festivities[/card] make her a tad overpowered.

But it's an interesting concept.

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#3 06-02-2012 18:44:41

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Re : ~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

Nurvus a écrit :

I think [card]It is Time[/card] and [card]Festivities[/card] make her a tad overpowered.

But it's an interesting concept.

dont forget skyward boots...


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#4 06-02-2012 18:47:42

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Re : ~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

Yep, use boots and near no chance of playing Clumsiness anymore on her turn..

But a card of effect that allow some protection aganst clumsiness and other permanet removal is necessary for the nehant mage decks..

Obesity works a little, but it's too weak since dosen't chain in to spells for them..


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#5 06-02-2012 19:32:24

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Re : ~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

[card]Scepter of the Border[/card] (Lv2) and [card]Break the Second Chain[/card] are the cards that make Clumsiness less effective by returning spells to you.

[card]Mastery[/card] makes you harder to effectively counter by simply placing even more cards.

If you want a card that effectively protects your Corruptions, maybe a card like this:

Deep Corruption
Guild: Nehantists
Class: Mage
Spell Nehantic Corruption
This card attaches to the opposing character.
If the opposing player plays a card that affects one or more Corruptions you control, such card is ignored and both that card and Deep Corruption are discarded.
Permanent.

It counts towards the number of corruptions for [card]Tenebrium[/card] and [card]Vital Syphon[/card].
It protects your key Corruptions by sacrificing itself in their place.
Cards that target multiple corruptions are countered and only affect this card.

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#6 06-02-2012 19:37:58

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Re : ~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

The problem with those two cards nurvus is that, if you place more than one desolation the game bugs and all cards go to the discard pile when the character dies.. So mastery + desolation is not an option aganst Clumsiness...

As for scepter, it's not good, cause the adversarie will try to remove clumsiness the turn his character die, after that even if you get the corruptions back, you wont have time to play all again before ***bip*** characters are killed..

So only breaking the second chain might work, since it will allow you to place a desolation after all cards are played...

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#7 06-02-2012 19:41:57

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Re : ~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

Paladino.:RR:. a écrit :

So mastery + desolation is not an option aganst Clumsiness...

Only a retard would play that combo anyway.

You got:
- Mastery->Vital Syphon;
- Mastery->Perversion;
- Mastery->Terror;
- Mastery->Corruption of the Soul;
- Mastery->Revealing the Secret;
- etc...

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As for your issue with Clumsiness on the Turn a character dies, try this:

- Place [card]Desolation of the Heart[/card] on "more than one character"
- Play [card]Pulling the Strings[/card] as the last card.
- If he removes Desolation of the Heart, you move the other Desolation of the Heart to that character.
- If he doesn't remove Desolation of the Heart, you move something else.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (06-02-2012 19:46:41)


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#8 06-02-2012 19:47:35

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Re : ~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

I never said it wasn't a usefull card.

Just that you proposed it as a solution to the problem of clumsiness, and it does not work.

Come on what kind of retard would play Clumsiness to remove one corruption that is not desolation? The guy plays 2 corruption spells every turn, why the hell would u remove a perversion or even a siphon?

For that you would need 3 Clumsiness + void to be effective. And that's a lot of space in a deck  now a days.

So a inteligent player, will wait for the nehant player to mass his siphon on a regular character and the turn he is going to die, play clumsiness and remove desolation.

And in this situation, mastery does shit for the nehant player. So does the scepter.

Only breaking the second chain could work, and for that you need to keep a desolation on the discard pile and risk getting prestiged...


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#9 06-02-2012 19:51:19

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Re : ~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

That problem has several sollutions without the need for new cards:

Option A, B and C:
- Try to kill characters on the opponent's Turn and play the key card as last.
- Use [card]The Council's Banner[/card] to help make sure that happens, specially on your Turns.

Option A:
- Keep Desolation of the Heart on 2 or more characters.
- [card]Pulling the Strings[/card] to move a Desolation IN if one of them is removed.

Option B:
- Have 2 Desolation of the Heart on the same character.
- [card]Pulling the Strings[/card] to move a Desolation OUT if none of them is removed.

Option C:
- Do not keep Desolation of the Heart on any character.
- Play Desolation on the Turn the enemy character dies.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (06-02-2012 20:03:17)


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#10 06-02-2012 20:01:52

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Re : ~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

These are the current options, but all have big problems..

If your adversarie is good he will try to time the turn his character dies the same way you try to time it, to see who plays the last cards..

Or if you play a desolation too early in one of his characters, he can clumsiness + Prestige it..

There is a reason you don't see any nehant mage deck in high elo.. I think it's more than 2 months I have seen one 1700+ corruptions deck..


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#11 06-02-2012 20:05:01

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Re : ~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

The option of only playing Desolations when the opponent dies is the safest.

If he dies on his Turn:
- <whatever card> -> Desolation of the Heart

If he dies on your Turn:
- <whatever card> -> The Council's Banner -> Desolation of the Heart
- Desolation of the Heart -> Obesity (he's gonna play Clumsiness after your cards)

You just gotta outsmart the opponent.

Sometimes you can anticipate whether he has a card that chains into Clumsiness by looking at the Discard Pile.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (06-02-2012 20:09:05)


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#12 07-02-2012 10:13:13

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Re : ~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

Santuros a écrit :
Nurvus a écrit :

I think [card]It is Time[/card] and [card]Festivities[/card] make her a tad overpowered.

But it's an interesting concept.

dont forget skyward boots...

um shes a mage so no boots for her


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#13 07-02-2012 16:47:38

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Re : ~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

jackal19 a écrit :
Santuros a écrit :
Nurvus a écrit :

I think [card]It is Time[/card] and [card]Festivities[/card] make her a tad overpowered.

But it's an interesting concept.

dont forget skyward boots...

um shes a mage so no boots for her

Fatality!


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#14 08-02-2012 02:19:34

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Re : ~New Nehantist Mage + Spell

Nurvus a écrit :
jackal19 a écrit :
Santuros a écrit :

dont forget skyward boots...

um shes a mage so no boots for her

Fatality!

ops, forgot about that!


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