Eredan's World

Erian a écrit :

I chose "The Shadow" because you said that Noz are OP, so I'm also choosing "the best" from the other guilds (that's fair, I think, if u're implying that EVERY single Noz deck has 3 RoD, and that EVERY mage has 5 spirit  to begin with (which I know only with Marlok + Prophet; at least on turn 1).
Highest spirit mages are... Prophet, Marlok & Aerouant... Right?
3/4/3
And the 2nd one applies a -1 Sp penalty to ***bip*** other chars... Not so good a deal if u think abt it.

Also... You are actually counting on the player having ALWAYS the cards that he needs, right?
Cuz in Turn 1... Well, u might receive, for example, 3 Arcanium & 2 'A New Start'... Leaving u practically defense -and use- less... A Marauder or Warrior can still do some damage without playing ANY cards... Specially to a mage (which would, btw, deal probably 0-1 dmg).

Than the sword + Than the sword... +6 per card=12 atk, 2 cards used, using Marlok as in the previous example, u'll have 15-17 dmg, and def 1
The Shadow could always play "Diversion" + "Assassination"... Leaving Marlok with Sp 0, Def 1 and Atk 3/5
While She'd have Sp 3, Def 3 and Atk 11-12/14-15... Killing Marlok on a good hit (same example as u saying that both RoDs would get Max Dmg, right?)

Btw, if RoD is SOOOOOOOOOOO common and SOOOOOO OP, why don't u all use Fierce Lions + Bleeding?
Just thinking a bit would help you a lot...

Depending on the resources some players have, a low and/or mid level player can have the same nasty mage deck as a top end player.

Also nobody really cares too much for the lower end levels, cause you level up so fast and hit the high end game very fast.

Yeah, but I said "low-mid lvl PLAYERS" not DECKS.

Some other player's words...

magius a écrit :

Rain of Death is powerful... I cannot disagree that. But without Rain of Death, what happen to the mages? Compared to a Fireball (X+3 to X+5), Rain of Death is only (X+3 to X+7), additional 2 high damage. It is expensive for a reason.

What other spells that a mage can have? Lightning Bolt? Static Charge? This will spell the demise of ALL mage decks against decks with HIGH PHYSICAL DAMAGE like Kotoba or Zil Warriors Abomination. I don't see anyone complains about that.

The only thing to blame is that the decks against mages or any mage-based decks  that are crying "OP! OP! OP!" are the decks with LOW Spirit. DEAL WITH IT! Boost your Spirit or what not. Try something new for crying out loud.

P.S. I have experimented with a Crow/Tsoutai deck and I have defeated decent Witchblade decks whilst levelling it. So it is possible and its about time people stop complaining and try other things.

Btw...

By your argument, a rusty pair of scissors that fails to cut paper most certainly proves and asserts that scissors don't cut paper very well... which is ludicrous. I can only conclude two realities then. You have never seen a sharp pair of scissors and you have never seen a proper Noz Mage deck.

Let's see...
Btw, u didn't make ANY constructive comments at all, u only 'attacked' me with ***bip*** comment.
Anyway...

What I'm saying is that mages aren't that powerful. They're certainly powerful, but not so OP as many said. Most ppl complaining seem to 'think' that mages shouldn't use spells... Don't know why... Then what r they supossed to do? Die in the corner?
Mages NEED to use spells. Without having the best spells, mages can't even face other decks. Having a mage means that u have to use spells, otherwise the char slot is being wasted. Mages don't hit physically, and just because most players seem to complain abt magic dmg instead of changing their deck a bit (as if a mage doesn't balance his/her deck to face everything). Also, they use the 'best' at fighting, chars that get Sp= 0 in order to have 1 or 2 extra points in Atk/Def; thus resulting in them getting overkilled by mages...
Also, I've seen LOTS of players that, literally, suck at playing... but still complain.
At low lvls, I've seen many players use "That's an order!" to give ME my order bonus. Yeah, u read it well (I hope). Even when they already have the bonus and I don't, I've seen them giving the bonus to me many times (even won 1 time cuz of that) and, sometimes, giving the bonus to both chars, thus resulting in one of my chars getting +1 to Atk/Def and his resulting in +1 Atk... In the End, giving me +1 to Atk for free...

The only thing i can say from all that is.. A new start is unique, you can't draw x2
ON: Mages are not OP, they are one of the most expensive decks, if not the most, you need like 1kk crystals to make it.
Their usage has dropped a lot lately, cuz of Mills, and if Noz are not completed, they suck

Remember that the base of the deck is x3 RoD and x3 Last Word + Prophet which is like 400k+.
If not using Prophet the replacement is Ishaia, which would make 600k+.
Plus, the reason mages are devastating and high end is the combo Last Word + Void + LB lvl 3, which costs.... a lot

Depending on the resources some players have, a low and/or mid level player can have the same nasty mage deck as a top end player.

Also nobody really cares too much for the lower end levels, cause you level up so fast and hit the high end game very fast.

Ryken a écrit :

Well, I've always wondered why they haven't made certain cards Limited, like you can only have 2, like Unique is only 1. That way you can limit the amount of cards that make certain decks OP, like RoD in Witchblades.

It's just off the top of my head but I'm sure it could help in SOME way.

Rain of Death is powerful... I cannot disagree that. But without Rain of Death, what happen to the mages? Compared to a Fireball (X+3 to X+5), Rain of Death is only (X+3 to X+7), additional 2 high damage. It is expensive for a reason.

What other spells that a mage can have? Lightning Bolt? Static Charge? This will spell the demise of ALL mage decks against decks with HIGH PHYSICAL DAMAGE like Kotoba or Zil Warriors Abomination. I don't see anyone complains about that.

The only thing to blame is that the decks against mages or any mage-based decks  that are crying "OP! OP! OP!" are the decks with LOW Spirit. DEAL WITH IT! Boost your Spirit or what not. Try something new for crying out loud.

P.S. I have experimented with a Crow/Tsoutai deck and I have defeated decent Witchblade decks whilst levelling it. So it is possible and its about time people stop complaining and try other things.

By your argument, a rusty pair of scissors that fails to cut paper most certainly proves and asserts that scissors don't cut paper very well... which is ludicrous. I can only conclude two realities then. You have never seen a sharp pair of scissors and you have never seen a proper Noz Mage deck.

bleachman a écrit :

I personally believe they should get rid of the browser based flash and make it a client based one you download, thus taking a HUGE laod off of the players' computers to run the game. It would also help Feerik playtest new updates better on a private client server, instead of doing live tests in game and fixing things as they go... I could go on about this, but I think the general point is clear. The game is too hefty to run on EVERY computer.

On topic (lol ): We once had a thread on witchblades and how boring they are here: http://forum.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?id=16789

Agreed i would love it if it was a download instead of browser based