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#1 26-01-2013 16:42:50

jackal19
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Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

well it seems like maen and his wind elemental friends developed a cool way to end fights in turn 2  wow aint that op or am i wrong. low spirited characters suffer from this new combo

turn 1 plays tornado

turn 2 plays new guemlite card + unlinkment  chooses tornado from grave and again maens "cool" ability lets him play either another tornado or a collision the result  your low spirited characters are  all dead by turn 2 wow aint that fast right? looks like they finally developed a exodia combo well its bad for low spirit characters anyways but it still  is damn annoying since they have a heart that reduces  spirit permanently

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#2 26-01-2013 20:05:29

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

In fact only QQ, but sadly true...

It must be kinda ritual to release new op cards after nerfing some of them

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#3 26-01-2013 20:10:39

Teremune
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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

jackal19 a écrit :

well it seems like maen and his wind elemental friends developed a cool way to end fights in turn 2  wow aint that op or am i wrong. low spirited characters suffer from this new combo

turn 1 plays tornado

turn 2 plays new guemlite card + unlinkment  chooses tornado from grave and again maens "cool" ability lets him play either another tornado or a collision the result  your low spirited characters are  all dead by turn 2 wow aint that fast right? looks like they finally developed a exodia combo well its bad for low spirit characters anyways but it still  is damn annoying since they have a heart that reduces  spirit permanently

No more OP than first round win with 2x [card]attracts lightning[/card] which pulls another attracks lightning and then pulls [card]Spark Things off[/card] and then other AL pulls another STo. low spirit characters will always lose to a good mage AOE setup.    I wouldn't consider Maen OP, He is powerful but easily rendered useless.  with removal from game cards...


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#4 27-01-2013 03:17:55

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

TheRainMan a écrit :

In fact only QQ, but sadly true...

It must be kinda ritual to release new op cards after nerfing some of them

lol just spoke for a clan mate of mine since he doesnt do the forum apparently

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#5 27-01-2013 04:33:05

blackwaltz
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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

well, newer guilds get more broken combos  to attract people to buy buy them. Wished Nehants were this broken when they were the new guild.

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#6 27-01-2013 09:42:48

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

blackwaltz a écrit :

well, newer guilds get more broken combos  to attract people to buy buy them. Wished Nehants were this broken when they were the new guild.

They were smile Nehantist gave many easy win at their release. But, well, your statement is completely wrong since the only guilds that were good at the release were Nehantists and Stone Linkers. 2 out of 6, it's far from being a rule ^^


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#7 27-01-2013 12:43:24

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

Ori_Sacabaf a écrit :
blackwaltz a écrit :

well, newer guilds get more broken combos  to attract people to buy buy them. Wished Nehants were this broken when they were the new guild.

They were smile Nehantist gave many easy win at their release. But, well, your statement is completely wrong since the only guilds that were good at the release were Nehantists and Stone Linkers. 2 out of 6, it's far from being a rule ^^

Nehants didn't end games on turn 2 when they were released. smile


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#8 27-01-2013 13:07:23

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

blackwaltz a écrit :

Nehants didn't end games on turn 2 when they were released. smile

Nope, but they could top elo easily. It was even easier for them than for Stone Linkers.


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#9 27-01-2013 13:17:31

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

Ori_Sacabaf a écrit :
blackwaltz a écrit :

Nehants didn't end games on turn 2 when they were released. smile

Nope, but they could top elo easily. It was even easier for them than for Stone Linkers.

a few more broken release and their Legendary would fix that.


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#10 27-01-2013 16:57:18

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

The sad thing is they can't even use the excuse of "we forgot about that card", since it was only released this act and should have been in the group of cards that should have been used to play test the new cards with.  Though this combo would be a lot less dangerous if [card]Illumination[/card] didn't exist and couldn't pull the card from anywhere in the deck and [card]Air Stone-heart[/card] didn't lower spirit.  You could literally build a deck around this idea having already 12 cards just need 8 card filler.  For the other 8 cards you could use [card]Water Stone-heart[/card], [card]Water cycle[/card], [card]Globetrotter[/card], [card]Skyward Boots[/card] or [card]Road map[/card], and [card]The guild's cape[/card], because if the name of the game is your enemy having 0 spirit then you want to pal around with [card]Fog Hydra[/card].

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#11 28-01-2013 00:35:11

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

blackwaltz a écrit :

a few more broken release and their Legendary would fix that.

It could be nice to wait for the results before calling a release "broken". Because many so called "broken" releases didn't change anything regarding the balance of the game. Players are so quick to judge something "broken" that the word is slowly being stripped of all meaning.


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#12 28-01-2013 02:11:02

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

Ori_Sacabaf a écrit :
blackwaltz a écrit :

a few more broken release and their Legendary would fix that.

It could be nice to wait for the results before calling a release "broken". Because many so called "broken" releases didn't change anything regarding the balance of the game. Players are so quick to judge something "broken" that the word is slowly being stripped of all meaning.

Just expecting the worst.


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#13 28-01-2013 08:13:44

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

Ori_Sacabaf a écrit :
blackwaltz a écrit :

a few more broken release and their Legendary would fix that.

It could be nice to wait for the results before calling a release "broken". Because many so called "broken" releases didn't change anything regarding the balance of the game. Players are so quick to judge something "broken" that the word is slowly being stripped of all meaning.

The main reason why broken release don't stay broken  is because there are more broken release right after it...


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#14 28-01-2013 09:12:08

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

No, the main reason is "they are not broken in the first place, but players prefer complain before testing".


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#15 28-01-2013 09:14:48

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

Ori_Sacabaf a écrit :
blackwaltz a écrit :

a few more broken release and their Legendary would fix that.

It could be nice to wait for the results before calling a release "broken". Because many so called "broken" releases didn't change anything regarding the balance of the game. Players are so quick to judge something "broken" that the word is slowly being stripped of all meaning.

Agreed, I played against this deck a lot and I win more than I lose, I played the deck even for fun, it's a good deck but any decent ELO deck can usually win...usually.


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#16 28-01-2013 09:24:08

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

Ori_Sacabaf a écrit :

No, the main reason is "they are not broken in the first place, but players prefer complain before testing".

Yep, you're totally right, being able to cast 25 magic damage on every single character in two turns with no random is not broken...
I know it's easily counter by high spirit character, and it's extremely predictible. Nonetheless, it's still incredibly powerful...

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#17 28-01-2013 09:46:01

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

Great ! You've got the difference between "incredibly powerful" and "broken".


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#18 28-01-2013 11:59:39

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

For me , they are the same shit .

But that's probably just me .


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#19 28-01-2013 12:09:02

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

Ori_Sacabaf a écrit :

Great ! You've got the difference between "incredibly powerful" and "broken".

star-wars-cap-33.jpg
They are not broken. . . *goes back on patrol*

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#20 28-01-2013 13:16:37

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

Not my fault if you don't know what "broken" means hmm


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#21 29-01-2013 08:19:48

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

blackwaltz a écrit :
Ori_Sacabaf a écrit :

Great ! You've got the difference between "incredibly powerful" and "broken".

http://bloodstainedink.files.wordpress. … cap-33.jpg
They are not broken. . . *goes back on patrol*

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Yes nothing in eredan is broken everything is balanced


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#22 29-01-2013 09:36:47

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

It's always better to learn what it means before using it in any way possible and joking about it. We won't know for sure if the combo is broken until next week, but yeah : feel free to go on a low level troll rampage.


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#23 29-01-2013 09:39:36

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

Well  a card that gives +9/18 damages and some buff stat is (imo) broken...


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#24 29-01-2013 09:51:09

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

Since it depends on the situation, it's not. Again, the word is used so many times on wrong occasion that it has been completely stripped of any meaning. A broken gaming stuff is something that is TOO powerful in ANY situation and without any good counter (because if you have to gimp your deck against any other deck just to have a chance to win, it's not a good counter), leading to it being overused because it's just the best thing to do AND it will allow you to win against almost anything.

Basically it means that you will see more than half the top elo players use it. And that, we will know it only in 2 weeks (because this week players will be too busy complaining to look for solutions).


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#25 29-01-2013 10:03:09

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Re : Yep totally right about the new action guemlite card being op

Ori_Sacabaf a écrit :

Since it depends on the situation, it's not. Again, the word is used so many times on wrong occasion that it has been completely stripped of any meaning. A broken gaming stuff is something that is TOO powerful in ANY situation and without any good counter (because if you have to gimp your deck against any other deck just to have a chance to win, it's not a good counter), leading to it being overused because it's just the best thing to do AND it will allow you to win against almost anything.

Basically it means that you will see more than half the top elo players use it. And that, we will know it only in 2 weeks (because this week players will be too busy complaining to look for solutions).

I agree. There are plenty of decks that can manage Stone-Linker. For example, WitchBlades with Infiltration is a good counter against them (I manage to lock them within the first 2 turns). They cannot do much if they cannot play their cards, right?

Don't forget [card]Obesity[/card] for Nomads, [card]Demon May Rise[/card] for Nehantists, etc.

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