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#1 04-03-2012 05:45:58

whitepaladin
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Screw the random system

Everytime I do damage, it was the minimum attack!
The system is so unfair, it really pissed me off!!


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#2 04-03-2012 05:58:10

MrLordi92
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Re : Screw the random system

What do you suggest other than random?

We've all pulled the short straw before.


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#3 04-03-2012 08:28:51

Banker999
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Re : Screw the random system

That's human..
When damage is always maximum in one game,he didn't complain..
When damage is always minimum in one game,he blamed the game..


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#4 04-03-2012 11:23:58

jackal19
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Re : Screw the random system

you can only blame your luck not the system have you seen two sacred novas hit 10 twice well i did


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#5 04-03-2012 12:28:38

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Re : Screw the random system

how can luck-base system be unfair?
it makes u think more than just base attack system (ex:9 attack insted of 7/10)
personaly, i find it better this way big_smile


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#6 06-03-2012 08:10:00

Leorio
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Re : Screw the random system

Luck-based system is never fair. End of story. That's why people use decks that have set effects...and those decks own all others.


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#7 06-03-2012 10:03:03

TPPK
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Re : Screw the random system

Leorio a écrit :

Luck-based system is never fair. End of story. That's why people use decks that have set effects...and those decks own all others.

Incorrect!

People that know math own all others.
It is called odds calculation.


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#8 06-03-2012 10:22:34

jackal19
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Re : Screw the random system

TPPK a écrit :
Leorio a écrit :

Luck-based system is never fair. End of story. That's why people use decks that have set effects...and those decks own all others.

Incorrect!

People that know math own all others.
It is called odds calculation.

oh dont mind him ttpk hes intellect is way superior to us lowbies so he doesnt know what hes talking about


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#9 06-03-2012 11:15:34

magius
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Re : Screw the random system

jackal19 a écrit :
TPPK a écrit :
Leorio a écrit :

Luck-based system is never fair. End of story. That's why people use decks that have set effects...and those decks own all others.

Incorrect!

People that know math own all others.
It is called odds calculation.

oh dont mind him ttpk hes intellect is way superior to us lowbies so he doesnt know what hes talking about

What he said is true. A good deck building is to improve the probability of you getting the cards you want for the effect you wanted. For example:

Multiple copies of Assassinate and Burning Soul for example, both gives +Attack and having 6 cards in a 20 card deck improves the chance for you to deal higher damage.


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#10 06-03-2012 11:31:19

jackal19
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Re : Screw the random system

magius a écrit :
jackal19 a écrit :
TPPK a écrit :

Incorrect!

People that know math own all others.
It is called odds calculation.

oh dont mind him ttpk hes intellect is way superior to us lowbies so he doesnt know what hes talking about

What he said is true. A good deck building is to improve the probability of you getting the cards you want for the effect you wanted. For example:

Multiple copies of Assassinate and Burning Soul for example, both gives +Attack and having 6 cards in a 20 card deck improves the chance for you to deal higher damage.

and yet whats so unfair about it nothing  if you cant build a good deck don't blame the odds that's all i can say

Dernière modification par jackal19 (06-03-2012 11:32:36)


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#11 06-03-2012 11:33:07

magius
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Re : Screw the random system

jackal19 a écrit :
magius a écrit :
jackal19 a écrit :

oh dont mind him ttpk hes intellect is way superior to us lowbies so he doesnt know what hes talking about

What he said is true. A good deck building is to improve the probability of you getting the cards you want for the effect you wanted. For example:

Multiple copies of Assassinate and Burning Soul for example, both gives +Attack and having 6 cards in a 20 card deck improves the chance for you to deal higher damage.

and yet whats so unfair about it nothing  if you cant build a good deck don't blame the odds that's all i can say

Tell that to whitepaladin wink


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#12 06-03-2012 11:35:19

jackal19
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Re : Screw the random system

magius a écrit :
jackal19 a écrit :
magius a écrit :

What he said is true. A good deck building is to improve the probability of you getting the cards you want for the effect you wanted. For example:

Multiple copies of Assassinate and Burning Soul for example, both gives +Attack and having 6 cards in a 20 card deck improves the chance for you to deal higher damage.

and yet whats so unfair about it nothing  if you cant build a good deck don't blame the odds that's all i can say

Tell that to whitepaladin wink

and you forgot the other one


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#13 06-03-2012 11:58:52

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Re : Screw the random system

play TG and use litany+ supplication, and screw the random system yourself tongue


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#14 06-03-2012 12:51:23

Limestone
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Re : Screw the random system

Sounds like you need lots of luck, try 3x [card]Lucky charm[/card] and feel the awesomeness to always hit Max attack ^^


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#15 06-03-2012 13:20:54

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Re : Screw the random system

You can also play [card]Oh, I'm good! [/card], no more random....


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#16 06-03-2012 14:59:59

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Re : Screw the random system

The game is programmed this way - the percentage of performing min attack is way higher than max. The characters perform max attack 5-10% of the time.
Other random effect like sared nova or Dhan are equally distributed.


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#17 06-03-2012 15:05:56

magius
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Re : Screw the random system

paulhealth a écrit :

The game is programmed this way - the percentage of performing min attack is way higher than max. The characters perform max attack 5-10% of the time.
Other random effect like sared nova or Dhan are equally distributed.

Unless this is backed by Feerik programmer, I doubt this is the case. Random generator is well... pseudo-random. I don't see why I want to make things harder by skewing the statistics for min/max attack.

Dernière modification par magius (06-03-2012 15:06:53)


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#18 06-03-2012 15:12:55

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Re : Screw the random system

paulhealth a écrit :

The game is programmed this way - the percentage of performing min attack is way higher than max. The characters perform max attack 5-10% of the time.
Other random effect like sared nova or Dhan are equally distributed.

No way, I wonder where you get this information...
My sources in developer team say that the random system uses standard pseudo-random methods available in the programming language used.


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#19 06-03-2012 15:43:53

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Re : Screw the random system

Zurga a écrit :
paulhealth a écrit :

The game is programmed this way - the percentage of performing min attack is way higher than max. The characters perform max attack 5-10% of the time.
Other random effect like sared nova or Dhan are equally distributed.

No way, I wonder where you get this information...
My sources in developer team say that the random system uses standard pseudo-random methods available in the programming language used.

i pick zurga's opinion over any random joe anyday.. big_smile


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#20 06-03-2012 15:49:11

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Re : Screw the random system

Caitlyn a écrit :
Zurga a écrit :
paulhealth a écrit :

The game is programmed this way - the percentage of performing min attack is way higher than max. The characters perform max attack 5-10% of the time.
Other random effect like sared nova or Dhan are equally distributed.

No way, I wonder where you get this information...
My sources in developer team say that the random system uses standard pseudo-random methods available in the programming language used.

i pick zurga's opinion over any random joe anyday.. big_smile


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#21 06-03-2012 16:27:48

soulst3al3r
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Re : Screw the random system

lol just get a golem up to a 20+ attk and you dont have to worry about minimums and maximums lol


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#22 06-03-2012 16:42:54

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Re : Screw the random system

jackal19 a écrit :

oh dont mind him ttpk hes intellect is way superior to us lowbies so he doesnt know what hes talking about

I don't know if I should be offended or not, trying to calculate and generate the best odds isn't really rocket science.

There is never a matter of feeling superior if I don't agree with something: Most stuff that is written which I don't agree with could have easily been avoided if the persons complaining actually owned the deck to see what they write is mere bullocks.


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#23 06-03-2012 17:10:42

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Re : Screw the random system

Zurga a écrit :

My sources in developer team say...

Do you really, with all your heart, believe anything the developers tell you?


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#24 06-03-2012 17:15:11

Zurga
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Re : Screw the random system

paulhealth a écrit :
Zurga a écrit :

My sources in developer team say...

Do you really, with all your heart, believe anything the developers tell you?

And who you are to declare that the developer's team are liars ?

Did you have proof of what you said ?

Oh, I forgot about the worldwide conspiracy against you...

Dernière modification par Zurga (06-03-2012 17:16:34)


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#25 06-03-2012 17:56:44

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Re : Screw the random system

Zurga a écrit :
paulhealth a écrit :
Zurga a écrit :

My sources in developer team say...

Do you really, with all your heart, believe anything the developers tell you?

And who you are to declare that the developer's team are liars ?

Did you have proof of what you said ?

Oh, I forgot about the worldwide conspiracy against you...

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