Eredan's World

GGuti · 07-12-2011 20:10:08

After killing an Ishaia with sentence, the def buffs still on the other 2 chars.

Got pic if you want.

MrLordi92 · 07-12-2011 20:19:59

You should always post the pic. it is always a help.

GGuti · 08-12-2011 02:02:09

MrLordi92 a écrit :

You should always post the pic. it is always a help.

crap, I lost it ¬_¬
Anyways, if someone could check it it'd be great.

the bug is quite simple, you kill a char that has global bonuses and they remain after death by sentence

MrLordi92 · 08-12-2011 02:48:42

GGuti a écrit :

MrLordi92 a écrit :
You should always post the pic. it is always a help.
crap, I lost it ¬_¬
Anyways, if someone could check it it'd be great.
the bug is quite simple, you kill a char that has global bonuses and they remain after death by sentence

Try recreating the scenario and screen-capping it.

Dandeman · 12-12-2011 14:09:45

I have no picture of it, but can confirm the bug as I've run into it a couple of times recently. This is probably due to the fact that sentence is bugged in general, it is supposed to (according to text) activate at the end of the turn, not the beginning of the next turn. Probably the Ishaia buffs remain active because Ishaia is still alive until after the discard phase and carries the buffs into the new turn. Another annoying result of this sentence bug is that you can't use it as final finisher, because sentencing an opponent leaves him alive until after the turn and you may be outdecked at the beginning of the next, especially when playing against Psychurgist, Kriss & Eternal, that is very annoying.

Zurga · 12-12-2011 14:12:24

Actually, you can use Judgement as a finisher.
he death of character occurs at the end of turn and victory conditions are checked before the beginning of next turn.

Dandeman · 12-12-2011 17:08:27

Sadly no you can't, because sentence does not activate at the end of the turn. If you sentence a charcter which heals during the turn, he does not loose the double health points until after the discard phase. As a result if u play sentence, and your opponent heals e.g 5 health points during the turn, at the end of the turn he has 2 left, but you can't draw cards, even though sentence would take him to -8 and thus kill him, you loose because "there are not enough cards to continue the fight". Fact is, it does not activate at the end of the turn like other cards (e.g amber dagger) which do their damage after hits have been exchanged, but after the discard phase. If there is no discard phase because you don't have anymore cards to draw, sentence does not activate. Try it out by healing and sentencing your opponent's last character when you deck out (commonly against avalonians) and you will see that you loose the game even though sentence should have killed your opponent.

Zurga · 12-12-2011 17:13:00

Did you try recently ?
You describe what the card does at the beggining, not what the card does actually.

Amber dagger and magic poison trigger at the end of combat, not end of the turn by the way.

I will try this evenning to be sure.

Dernière modification par Zurga (12-12-2011 17:14:52)

Paladino.:RR:. · 12-12-2011 19:13:04

I tried on sunday and it still worked the damage at the begginign of the next turn, so If you were out of cards or in a fight with two last remaing characters aganst someone using Solaris or the avalonian queen, if your character dies, they do not take damage since after the battle the match is over, even if they were going to die if they took the sentence damage..

Coylise Myro · 12-12-2011 19:17:41

I can confirm that sentence deals damage after checking victory conditions. I recently lost a game due to deck out before sentence dealt any damage, despite psychurgist healing for 3 with chiaroscuro.

Dernière modification par Coylise Myro (12-12-2011 19:17:57)

Rolth · 12-12-2011 20:38:28

I just ran across a worse sentence bug. Unfortunately I use a notebook and couldn't get a screen cap. Urakia had 4 health points and it was Prince Metchaf's turn. At the end of his battle he healed everyone for 1 health point and Urakia healed for 1 when Prince was hurt. This brought her up to 6 health points. After Sentence fired she dropped to -6 Health points. She should have only taken 4 damage, not a full 12. I looked in my history and the only thing I can find is Date: 12/12/2011 20:35, Duration: 06:40, Reason Why Game Ended: Death of characters, Opponent: pkpk2217, and it was a Pirate deck. Hope that helps track it down.

Paladino.:RR:. · 12-12-2011 21:12:41

any chance you played something like Desert Cimitar, or that he sniped Urakia?

Rolth · 13-12-2011 03:47:15

Paladino.:RR:. a écrit :

any chance you played something like Desert Cimitar, or that he sniped Urakia?

I think he did use Narwhal, but Urakia did not receive damage until after combat (when Sentence would have fired). I'm wondering if that was just a bug on when the actual damage was dealt?

Paladino.:RR:. · 13-12-2011 11:06:09

Did Urakia had a Keg on her? If so it's possible that sentence add the extra damage that the keg heals..

If it's that, than it's really a bug, and I have pointed it in other thread when we were complaining about the confusing way the keg works (dealing 6 damage and healing 3 after)...

Rolth · 13-12-2011 17:48:18

Nope, no keg. I wish I could reconstruct this issue. Anyway, if anyone has a deck like this and would like to play me to try to recreate the issue feel free to message me or something. Username: Rolth.

Zurga · 13-12-2011 21:23:45

Paladino.:RR:. a écrit :

I tried on sunday and it still worked the damage at the begginign of the next turn, so If you were out of cards or in a fight with two last remaing characters aganst someone using Solaris or the avalonian queen, if your character dies, they do not take damage since after the battle the match is over, even if they were going to die if they took the sentence damage..

I have just tried [card]Sentence[/card].
The lost of HP occurs at the end of turn, after the discard phase and after the check of victory condition, which occurs before the end of turn.
If a character has his HP below 0 due to Sentence effect, he dies and victory condition are checked again.

For me there is no bug with this card.

I have not enough details to reproduce the case described with Urakia.
So I can not explain this case or say if there is bug in this case

al_vh1n · 15-12-2011 03:24:45

Zurga a écrit :

Paladino.:RR:. a écrit :
I tried on sunday and it still worked the damage at the begginign of the next turn, so If you were out of cards or in a fight with two last remaing characters aganst someone using Solaris or the avalonian queen, if your character dies, they do not take damage since after the battle the match is over, even if they were going to die if they took the sentence damage..

I have just tried [card]Sentence[/card].
The lost of HP occurs at the end of turn, after the discard phase and after the check of victory condition, which occurs before the end of turn.
If a character has his HP below 0 due to Sentence effect, he dies and victory condition are checked again.
For me there is no bug with this card.

So are you saying end of combat/end of fight, and end of turn are two different scenarios? Man i wished there's really a Glossary or Definition of Terms section here to avoid such confusion.

DaRkStAr666 · 15-12-2011 08:06:30

al_vh1n a écrit :

Zurga a écrit :
Paladino.:RR:. a écrit :
I tried on sunday and it still worked the damage at the begginign of the next turn, so If you were out of cards or in a fight with two last remaing characters aganst someone using Solaris or the avalonian queen, if your character dies, they do not take damage since after the battle the match is over, even if they were going to die if they took the sentence damage..

I have just tried [card]Sentence[/card].
The lost of HP occurs at the end of turn, after the discard phase and after the check of victory condition, which occurs before the end of turn.
If a character has his HP below 0 due to Sentence effect, he dies and victory condition are checked again.
For me there is no bug with this card.
So are you saying end of combat/end of fight, and end of turn are two different scenarios? Man i wished there's really a Glossary or Definition of Terms section here to avoid such confusion.

write it there http://wiki.eredan.com/index.php?title=Glossary

Zurga · 15-12-2011 10:48:32

If I read here : http://wiki.eredan.com/index.php?title= … tiative.29

We can see that the combat and the end of combat is before the end of turn and the next turn.
Yes, it is written and explained.
And Yes, there is a difference between end of combat and end of turn.

Dernière modification par Zurga (15-12-2011 10:49:27)

Eredan's World

Annonce

#1 07-12-2011 20:10:08

Sentence Bug

#2 07-12-2011 20:19:59

Re : Sentence Bug

#3 08-12-2011 02:02:09

Re : Sentence Bug

#4 08-12-2011 02:48:42

Re : Sentence Bug

#5 12-12-2011 14:09:45

Re : Sentence Bug

#6 12-12-2011 14:12:24

Re : Sentence Bug

#7 12-12-2011 17:08:27

Re : Sentence Bug

#8 12-12-2011 17:13:00

Re : Sentence Bug

#9 12-12-2011 19:13:04

Re : Sentence Bug

#10 12-12-2011 19:17:41

Re : Sentence Bug

#11 12-12-2011 20:38:28

Re : Sentence Bug

#12 12-12-2011 21:12:41

Re : Sentence Bug

#13 13-12-2011 03:47:15

Re : Sentence Bug

#14 13-12-2011 11:06:09

Re : Sentence Bug

#15 13-12-2011 17:48:18

Re : Sentence Bug

#16 13-12-2011 21:23:45

Re : Sentence Bug

#17 15-12-2011 03:24:45

Re : Sentence Bug

#18 15-12-2011 08:06:30

Re : Sentence Bug

#19 15-12-2011 10:48:32

Re : Sentence Bug

Pied de page des forums