Kilanjared a écrit :
magius a écrit :
My observation: More tax == less crystal gain -> less crystal gain == less crystal in circulation -> less crystal in circulation == less buying power -> less buying power == lower card prices
I'm intrigued and will see if this is true for weeks to come
I hate to break it to ya, but if we all have less buying power plus a decrease in the cost of cards, we are at the same level of purchasing power as before. The real hit comes from buying boosters, where you spend the same amount of REAL money, then lose 30% of the equivalent game value!

Not only this but if you are not getting the price you want for a card then you are not going to sell it. If I have paid 50K for a fireball and in the futture I am forced to sell it for 20K do you think I will be wanting to do it?
Maybe, when a lot of time have passed and all the prices have lowered a lot people will start selling again because a bit something is better than anything but how long does it going to be? God knows

True... God knows if the price will regulate but from the changes, it has higher chance to regulate. Personally, I think the market place was abused by multi-accounts, hence the higher inflation. And of course card scarcity with each new release.

I too bought my Fireballs at ridiculous high price. BUT I played with them regularly, and had fun with them. I won't sell it as I will need it in my decks anyway. With potential lower price for cards in the future, I will not need to sell my cards to fuel a new deck.

I'm sure they will fix the card scarcity soon. Act-based booster is the best logical next step (I hope ).

EDIT: From previous post, I noticed someone suggesting less 30% on boosters. That might soothe players that has lost 30% of the profit (maybe?) on crystals. But to be honest, a virtual crystals? I don't mind spending once a while if the booster is priced right. Having 30% permanently will 'entice' more player to buy booster. Casual player like me just find the current booster priced too expensive for virtual card and virtual currency.

Dernière modification par magius (17-10-2011 16:41:13)

MoonFever · 17-10-2011 16:43:11

It kills me when people talk about this game and "profit"....you buy packs of random cards. It's not like Magic:The Gathering, where I can turn around and sell the singles I don't want for actual cash. I sell the Eredan singles I don't want for crystals, which I then can use to buy singles I want. Yes I agree that the marketplace will be in upheaval for a couple of weeks.

but honestly, you weren't going to cash out your collection for cash before, and you're not going to do it now. I agree that the 30% tax is excessive, and would like to hear more background into why they feel it is necessary without some other form of offset, whether it is more crystals for wins/losses, or whatever.

Heck I recall back when WoTC decided to reprint my 40-50 dollar rares in fourth edition MtG and Chronicles...bothered the heck out of me. Sold my collection and cashed out...With Eredan, I'm not feeling any wheres near that, since these electronic cards hold NO CASH VALUE

IvoVanDyk · 17-10-2011 16:50:25

Im from the spanish forum and all of us are mad about that, trsut me really rally mad. I dont know if I should cry, kills amnezy or star my own farm couse now I ll have a lot of free time.
With the past weekendbooster sales I say oh nice the eredan`s people really care about the players...how wrong I was... Im really sad like zahal in the beggining but we will get redemtion soon. We will be better students, boyfriends, starts new sports...is amazing!!!! A lot of things to do now, but never be the same again. I really like this game, but they lost is soul with wrong choices... O Prophet let me join u...

magius · 17-10-2011 16:52:36

MoonFever a écrit :

Heck I recall back when WoTC decided to reprint my 40-50 dollar rares in fourth edition MtG and Chronicles...bothered the heck out of me. Sold my collection and cashed out...With Eredan, I'm not feeling any wheres near that, since these electronic cards hold NO CASH VALUE

Ditto

ThorLegacy · 17-10-2011 16:53:39

this is a totally rip off theres no other way to call it , and sadlly the spanish forum for updates was closed and erased all the complains about this new update ... rlly good job guys this es how you kill a good game ....

jugglajr · 17-10-2011 16:57:17

Fine...You want to ruin such a wonderfully made game? I can do this too. I have personally spent FAR more money than morally acceptable on this game...Consider that at an end. Not another dime will come from my pocket until you start actually listening to the players of this game and taking their ideas as advice. I dont care what you think the best route to take is because its not you that plays this game. It is us, the players, who fund this game and suffer from your horrible decisions. I know I'm not the only person thinking the same, but I may be the only person to let you know how we all feel. Enjoy missing the few grand I may have been spending.

IvoVanDyk · 17-10-2011 17:06:54

ThorLegacy a écrit :

this is a totally rip off theres no other way to call it , and sadlly the spanish forum for updates was closed and erased all the complains about this new update ... rlly good job guys this es how you kill a good game ....

Im glad that u post here too couse ***bip*** english is better. Im totally upset abou the censure with the spanish forum. I hope this forum dont get the same destination...

Mindflay · 17-10-2011 17:07:48

jugglajr a écrit :

Fine...You want to ruin such a wonderfully made game? I can do this too. I have personally spent FAR more money than morally acceptable on this game...Consider that at an end. Not another dime will come from my pocket until you start actually listening to the players of this game and taking their ideas as advice. I dont care what you think the best route to take is because its not you that plays this game. It is us, the players, who fund this game and suffer from your horrible decisions. I know I'm not the only person thinking the same, but I may be the only person to let you know how we all feel. Enjoy missing the few grand I may have been spending.

I TOTALLY AGREE with this. I'm COMPLETELY new to the game, I started less than a week ago. I've spent $100 US Dollars on this and I was told about your increase in Auction House taxes. 10-30% tax increase? Wow. If this was a government/country, you'd get a rebellion and a civil war EXTREMELY quickly with that sort of increase.

Well, I understand that it isn't so.. Instead? I'll be boycotting purchasing feez from your guys in the future. I've spent more than what was acceptable in the first place. I certainly WON'T be spending anymore money on this game. As much as I'd love to see this game grow and flourish and become better than it is.. it won't be funded by my wallet anymore.

Who gets the AH tax % anyway? Nobody. The fee is being imposed to drive up Feez purchases so that we, in turn, get more cards and you, in turn, make a larger profit off of your already struggling but yet supportive customer base. I hope other people see this bullshit and take notice and also boycott purchasing GAME CURRENCY just to be screwed in the wallet by this outrageous tax increase.

SERIOUSLY. 10-30%?! Bullshit. Absolutely and utter bullshit.

TL;DR? This decision is bullshit. I won't be buying any more Feez. Good luck supporting your own game.

Dernière modification par Mindflay (17-10-2011 17:13:43)

Lulosaurio · 17-10-2011 17:16:03

Changes to the MARKETPLACE!!

[insert 40-50 lines of blank text about useless changes]

- Tax is now 30%

PLEASE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE GAME

kthx

IvoVanDyk · 17-10-2011 17:26:34

In the spanish forum we even cant discuss about this topic...a really really bad thing. If we cant talk is ciuse we dont deserve tha, and if we cant deserve that thet dont respect us...is that the way to get our support? Really? I fell ashamed of this, really ashamed...

ThorLegacy · 17-10-2011 17:34:25

the changes made to the market could be a good thing ,instant sell card for cristals ,not perfect way but at least a good thing , but all the good job you made was usseles if you put this ridiculus 30% tax . im sure if you change back to the 10% the 90% of all this complainings will dissapear . (sadly in at the spanish section yo cant even thing about complain coz they erase or close you topic ,an you dont have right to express your self)

JinDaMix · 17-10-2011 17:35:43

Try the french forum ;D

http://forum.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?id=29835

Kilanjared · 17-10-2011 17:39:19

Lulosaurio a écrit :

Changes to the MARKETPLACE!!
[insert 40-50 lines of blank text about useless changes]
- Tax is now 30%
PLEASE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE GAME

kthx

Hahaha, that was pretty great! The thing that really got to me was that they announced all these changes, what, a week ago? So we all got excited and looked forward to a promising new marketplace.

Oh, wait...did they leave out some information in the initial announcement? Why, YES! The 30% increase! Funny how they just slipped that in there right in the bottom, hoping we wouldn't noctie!!

In most places, that's called rape....

Mumpitz · 17-10-2011 18:06:09

30% Tax? Leave the Wall Street and occupy iTCG!

Limestone · 17-10-2011 18:06:52

So know we all know why Dantesan left, he doesn't have the heart to see his beloved community reaction would be after the market update.. at least he should've told us this 'change' is coming..

In this context 'change' sounds more like fraud --'

Poptolev · 17-10-2011 18:10:26

As a person who studies economics ... I shall have a lot of fun studying the effects of this

As a player .. 30% .. Really !?

Limestone · 17-10-2011 18:21:29

Poptolev a écrit :

As a person who studies economics ... I shall have a lot of fun studying the effects of this
As a player .. 30% .. Really !?

Lol, well said there

I also as a medical student, gonna make research on health-habit-economy relation based on this case.. A+ material for me

TheUnsane · 17-10-2011 18:47:55

wow this update sux

goscar · 17-10-2011 19:08:01

Wow you really screwed up big now.
1. 30% tax.
2. You still have to buy feez to sell.
3. You probably ended monopolies but you probably just angered your entire player base.

Dernière modification par goscar (17-10-2011 19:11:26)

Paladino.:RR:. · 17-10-2011 19:29:28

By the reactions on all forums, you can remove the probally..

Sapphon · 17-10-2011 20:18:41

Limestone a écrit :

As for Sapphon, I do truly trust and respect you but you've never walked in the shoes of an ordinary player, so don't make this sounds easy for us.

I have, for more than a year. I can even say I was ranting on these boards before you even knew they existed ;p

I've read all your concerns, and really thank all of you for expressing them without blind rage or killing intents ;p I'll try to make you a longer answer tomorrow and hope it'll answer some questions.

DaRkStAr666 · 17-10-2011 20:28:24

Skipen a écrit :

ferrik to this totally wrong ......
. are many Brazilians protest. Many Spaniards, Mexicans, etc.
I wanted to invite you to also be a protest
(letters not selling, not buying fee'z.)
if we do the ferrik will surely lower the rate (30%)
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this was surely the biggest mistake of ferrik
if I'm wrong, you can delete the comment

immature

Poptolev · 17-10-2011 20:38:37

DaRkStAr666 a écrit :

Skipen a écrit :
ferrik to this totally wrong ......
. are many Brazilians protest. Many Spaniards, Mexicans, etc.
I wanted to invite you to also be a protest
(letters not selling, not buying fee'z.)
if we do the ferrik will surely lower the rate (30%)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
this was surely the biggest mistake of ferrik
if I'm wrong, you can delete the comment
immature

Actually a protest is one of the most mature ways to deal with such situation.

They want profit (d'oh .. it's their job). You stop buying -> they get lesser profit -> they start listening to demands ...

Moonkin · 17-10-2011 20:42:13

30% tax is simple called - theft. I will never again buy anything from Feerik for cash (until tax is set to 10%). If we all do the same we will see who will be laughing at the end:) Feerik is killing Eredan like Zynga killed Warstorm. Listen ppl - DO NOT BUY PACKS, Feerik will have to give up.

goscar · 17-10-2011 20:42:55

DaRkStAr666 a écrit :

Skipen a écrit :
ferrik to this totally wrong ......
. are many Brazilians protest. Many Spaniards, Mexicans, etc.
I wanted to invite you to also be a protest
(letters not selling, not buying fee'z.)
if we do the ferrik will surely lower the rate (30%)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
this was surely the biggest mistake of ferrik
if I'm wrong, you can delete the comment
immature

Immature? Yeah cause starting a protest on something wrong is immature.

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