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Okay so i have the start of what is the Tsoutai deck but its just the frame work for it so far and its still pretty much experimental really. But the outline of it looks good on paper.
[card]Akutsai[/card]
[card]Ayako[/card]
[card]Toran the Regent[/card]
x3[card]The Flawseeker's Harmony[/card]
x2[card]The Flawseeker's Fury[/card]
x2[card]The Flawseeker's Calling[/card]
x1[card]The Flawseeker's Meditation[/card]
x2[card]Shi[/card]
x2[card]Mi[/card]
x1[card]Magic Shield[/card] Used on Ayako cause here attack cant be reduced
x1[card]Clumsiness[/card]
x2[card]Fallback[/card]
This is the basic outline and could use more work really havent got to test it against real decks. and the other few cards in the deck are fillers. so i didnt post them
Dernière modification par Haku-Men (09-06-2011 11:21:56)
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Hey just so you know, Ayako at level 3 makes it so that ALL of the Tsoutai's attack cannot be lowered, so it will work for all of them, not just her
Would love to see a new Dragon Knight character (Whether he be a Mage, Warrior, Marauder, or a combo)
Would also love to see a Mage/Priest character (Aside from Ateb lvl 3 who's the only one I know of)
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3 x [card]The Flawseeker's Meditation[/card]
3 x [card]The Flawseeker's Calling[/card]
3 x [card]rain of death[/card]
3 x [card]The Flawseeker's Harmony[/card]
i think these cards are the base of the new tsoutai deck , and it's powerfull ( maybe like a top deck )
probably , you can put also [card]katamaru[/card] ^^
Dernière modification par Reycom (10-06-2011 10:33:30)
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only i dont have a [card]A new start[/card].
but i have every other card
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you don't need a new start in this deck, in 6 turns the game is over
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yes ans isnt needed its a fast kill deck especially with mediation rod combo and other flaw combos which is better than the fushimi combo.
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Here's the deck I am running atm, and it is working really well.
Toran, the Regent (lvl 4)
Akutsai (lvl 4)
Ayako (lvl 3, at the moment)
3 The Flawseekers Harmony
3 The Flawseekers Fury
3 The Flawseekers Meditation
3 The Flawseekers Calling (the BOMB!1!)
2 Katamaru
2 Assassination
2 Fireball (should be Rain of Death)
2 Unleash Hell
Ass. is in cause I needed something to chain with Fury while using Toran or Akutsai. Fireball/RoD is a no-brainer, and Unleash Hell works really well sometimes to ensure a sure win.
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Here's the deck I am running atm, and it is working really well.
Toran, the Regent (lvl 4)
Akutsai (lvl 4)
Ayako (lvl 3, at the moment)3 The Flawseekers Harmony
3 The Flawseekers Fury
3 The Flawseekers Meditation
3 The Flawseekers Calling (the BOMB!1!)
2 Katamaru
2 Assassination
2 Fireball (should be Rain of Death)
2 Unleash HellAss. is in cause I needed something to chain with Fury while using Toran or Akutsai. Fireball/RoD is a no-brainer, and Unleash Hell works really well sometimes to ensure a sure win.
what about [card]collision[/card]
and [card]storm[/card]
i just hate unleash hell when fight against mage
and which is best akutsai lvl 3 / 4
this war guem human thing confuse me a bit
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Mages isn't really a big problem since the deck has hig spirit, both in general and with meditation.
I haven't honestly tried Akutsai lvl 3, with the new cards, but eventhough the human and war guemelite combination is PHENOMENAL(!!!) with Flawseekers Harmony, I would think that lvl 4 is still better due to the higher spirit and atk. It is after all a marauder type deck as well.
As to the matter of Collision, I don't like the card, and I would think it is even worse against mages than Unleash Hell is.
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Okay so i changed my deck to this
x3[card]The Flawseeker's Fury[/card]
x3[card]The Flawseeker's Meditation[/card]
x3[card]The Flawseeker's Harmony[/card]
x3[card]The Flawseeker's Calling[/card]
x3[card]Rain of Death[/card]
x3[card]Katamaru[/card]
x1[card]Storm[/card]
x1[card]Journey[/card]
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Mages isn't really a big problem since the deck has hig spirit, both in general and with meditation.
I haven't honestly tried Akutsai lvl 3, with the new cards, but eventhough the human and war guemelite combination is PHENOMENAL(!!!) with Flawseekers Harmony, I would think that lvl 4 is still better due to the higher spirit and atk. It is after all a marauder type deck as well.
As to the matter of Collision, I don't like the card, and I would think it is even worse against mages than Unleash Hell is.
yeah ***bip*** right best aoe storm i guess
1 more : is there any chance of using hime
thanks before and what a nice deck it open my mind
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Malleuz a écrit :Mages isn't really a big problem since the deck has hig spirit, both in general and with meditation.
I haven't honestly tried Akutsai lvl 3, with the new cards, but eventhough the human and war guemelite combination is PHENOMENAL(!!!) with Flawseekers Harmony, I would think that lvl 4 is still better due to the higher spirit and atk. It is after all a marauder type deck as well.
As to the matter of Collision, I don't like the card, and I would think it is even worse against mages than Unleash Hell is.
yeah ***bip*** right best aoe storm i guess
1 more : is there any chance of using hime
thanks before and what a nice deck it open my mind
you can but you have to remove one rod and add assa to balance it out
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Okay so i changed my deck to this
x3[card]The Flawseeker's Fury[/card]
x3[card]The Flawseeker's Meditation[/card]
x3[card]The Flawseeker's Harmony[/card]
x3[card]The Flawseeker's Calling[/card]
x3[card]Rain of Death[/card]
x3[card]Katamaru[/card]
x1[card]Storm[/card]
x1[card]Journey[/card]
For me you better put 2 [card]Assassination[/card] and 1 [card]Time to die[/card] in place of [card]The Flawseeker's fury[/card],since this is a Mage deck end up with 0 spirit could turn against you especially when using [card]Rain of Death[/card] and [card]Katamaru[/card]...and then [card]The Flawseeker's Fury[/card] and [card]The Flawseeker's Meditation[/card] can not be attacked at the same time then you would have three cards at the end of the match would be useless
Dernière modification par Francesco_Sorbello (11-06-2011 10:39:36)
You do the Pony Pokey!
Per voi posso essere MC Outlaw,Francesco Sorbello,Hoary e anche Frapony se proprio volete
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You shouldn't look at Fury and Meditation as cards that can go "dead" ones each of your chars have been "equipped" with one. They are more acurately "utility-cards", meaning that you should use them in the right context.
For example:
Fury will be good with ass. and it is used when you need to get physical damage through in the early game. Meditation works with RoD, katamaru and as a defence, and of course as a great set-up to harmony.
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You shouldn't look at Fury and Meditation as cards that can go "dead" ones each of your chars have been "equipped" with one. They are more acurately "utility-cards", meaning that you should use them in the right context.
For example:
Fury will be good with ass. and it is used when you need to get physical damage through in the early game. Meditation works with RoD, katamaru and as a defence, and of course as a great set-up to harmony.
Thats why i like this deck you can practically use your hand at every turn
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the problem seems now is come from toran
if toran gok OHK on early turn (1,2,3)
then the flawseeker chain will be stacked
Dernière modification par shaderlol (11-06-2011 17:56:24)
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@Shaderlol:
Totally correct, but as far as I have tested the deck (54 wins and 14 losses atm), that almost never happens (to be honest, I haven't experinced it yet). But then again, losing one of your characters to a OHKO in any deck is almost always a sure loss.
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yeah but they way i look at it if i drop a flaw seeker card the draws get insanely messed up. i tried doing the whole assassination and it totally messes up the decks curve.
though i have thought about taking out on meditation and one fury as it is
Dernière modification par Haku-Men (11-06-2011 20:20:43)
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@Shaderlol:
Totally correct, but as far as I have tested the deck (54 wins and 14 losses atm), that almost never happens (to be honest, I haven't experinced it yet). But then again, losing one of your characters to a OHKO in any deck is almost always a sure loss.
indeed
the tsoutai deck atm is fairly good
iam sure it can compete with top deck in elo (spesially mages and wb)
yeah but they way i look at it if i drop a flaw seeker card the draws get insanely messed up. i tried doing the whole assassination and it totally messes up the decks curve.
though i have thought about taking out on meditation and one fury as it is
yeah ***bip*** right
flawseeker is the heart of tsoutai deck
its just like someting is missing, and we need to find this missing part
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to me it seems like feerik is just putting more and more overpowered cards in the game each week... it sucks so incredibly much that u "need" an OP deck to be able to play normal and win "from time to time"...
the problem is imo that the scale for life, dmg, spirit, def, strength is somehow super low... which can make cards superweak or powerful by just increasing or decreasing the numbers by 1... (not sure whether i made myself clear) i think Feerik DOES overexagerate so much in the last few months... one extrem card is followed by another extreme card to balance the first one... so now i think its just extremes chasing each other...
i already stopped investing money in the game because its way to unbalanced
i already said that in the german forum and i ll say it here once more... Feerik... please start trying out ure cards before u publish them... give a small group a seperate room and lend them some cards... let them try out these cards for a week and let them give their opinion...
So you mean something like, beta test cards. it would make more since if they made a separate server dedicated to ppl maybe test out cards that they may preview or put out
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to me it seems like feerik is just putting more and more overpowered cards in the game each week... it sucks so incredibly much that u "need" an OP deck to be able to play normal and win "from time to time"...
the problem is imo that the scale for life, dmg, spirit, def, strength is somehow super low... which can make cards superweak or powerful by just increasing or decreasing the numbers by 1... (not sure whether i made myself clear) i think Feerik DOES overexagerate so much in the last few months... one extrem card is followed by another extreme card to balance the first one... so now i think its just extremes chasing each other...
i already stopped investing money in the game because its way to unbalanced
i already said that in the german forum and i ll say it here once more... Feerik... please start trying out ure cards before u publish them... give a small group a seperate room and lend them some cards... let them try out these cards for a week and let them give their opinion...
Yes i agree with this you can also use this for bug testing which could help reduce the number of card bugs in the game
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Calandra a écrit :to me it seems like feerik is just putting more and more overpowered cards in the game each week... it sucks so incredibly much that u "need" an OP deck to be able to play normal and win "from time to time"...
the problem is imo that the scale for life, dmg, spirit, def, strength is somehow super low... which can make cards superweak or powerful by just increasing or decreasing the numbers by 1... (not sure whether i made myself clear) i think Feerik DOES overexagerate so much in the last few months... one extrem card is followed by another extreme card to balance the first one... so now i think its just extremes chasing each other...
i already stopped investing money in the game because its way to unbalanced
i already said that in the german forum and i ll say it here once more... Feerik... please start trying out ure cards before u publish them... give a small group a seperate room and lend them some cards... let them try out these cards for a week and let them give their opinion...
Yes i agree with this you can also use this for bug testing which could help reduce the number of card bugs in the game
yeah i agree also with this
hope there are feerik staff out there will read this
anyway lets back to the topic
i add some tweaking by removing 1 fury, 1 meditation and adding 2 shi (since i cannot afford assasination)
but somehow shi will work better than assasination cause ayako can use it to
for me it work nicely for now
got 10 win streak on lvl room gona try it on elo soon ^_^
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you can always get one from starter zil deck for 1200 crystals
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I have played tsoutaï in normal room since wednesday,
my deck : [card]toran le régent[/card] [card]ayako[/card] [card]akutsaï[/card]
all are full.
actions : 3 [card]fureur du cherchefaille[/card]
2 [card]méditation du cherchefaille[/card] (3 are too much)
3 [card]invocation du cherchefaille[/card] (THE new imba)
3 [card]harmonie du cherchefaille[/card] (compulsory)
1 [card]voyage[/card]
1 [card]tatamijitsu[/card] (toran must survive so ...)
spells : 3 [card]katamaru[/card] (just magic versus caster)
2 [card]pluie incandescente[/card] (versus high defence)
objects : 1 [card]tsume[/card] (to combined with fureur versus high defence).
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wow i totally have forgotten about [card]tsume[/card] that is a good idea actually, i was also thinking maybe even of putting [card]Reborn[/card] to go against high magic d when u want to use [card]Rain of Death[/card]
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