But nowadays...
- Now the flavour of the week rules releases
- You have week-long Events that are VERY TIME-CONSUMING
- These Events seem to be tailored for players without a life
- Most players simply will never be able to complete such Events
- Players become unwilling to waste time on fights for fun, instead focusing on the Event
- This leads to players quitting when they think the fight isn't gonna contribute to whatever trophy they're trying to complete

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Nurvus a écrit :

All the past paying Events were paid for through the normal purchase of Boosters.
Boosters already give you something on their own: Cards.
In those Events, Boosters gave something Extra to complete the Event, or to complete it faster - a Bonus.
Therefore, the Event was FREE.
You didn't pay for the Event, you paid for the cards in the Boosters.
The Event rewarded paying players with something MORE for the money they spend on Boosters.
Feerik has been introducing new ways to give you LESS for your money.
They ask you to spend money directly on the trophy for the sake of getting some half-worthless card.
They ask you to spend money on Favors.
They ask you to spend money on Energy to try a mission you may fail or get nothing from.
Now Feerik is truly trying to get you to PAY for the Events.

To Feerik:

It's perfectly okay for the event to be very time consuming for a casual player.
But stop making it time consuming for dedicated players as well.
Let players be able to complete the event earlier and then have fun testing decks.

The players that spend countless hours playing Eredan each day, free or not, are the core of this game.
They are the reason the game has people playing it.

Stop making it so hard for them...

The effort you make players go through for simple/weak cards.

Having the deck variety the Event requires is already a difficult task.
Asking the player to dedicated countless hours per day to an Event is unacceptable...

If you want an Event to be paid, do it by giving Event-specific cards in the Boosters like you did before, and add these Event-specific cards to Boosters 1 week before the Event begins.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (04-07-2012 13:07:50)

skadooosh · 01-07-2012 19:07:30

no need to say much more...

Ryken · 01-07-2012 19:20:59

I'd agree, but I actually liked this event. Yeah, it WAS time consuming, so I'd say if they cut some of the requirments down by...half? Yeah, that'd be cool. Or something, I dunno.

Nurvus · 01-07-2012 19:22:48

A casual player should be able to get 1 of the characters.
A dedicated player should be able to get both characters.
A very dedicated player should be able to get both characters and go for several attempts at the rare cards.

Feerik should just remove the option to spend money on trophies or Energy.
You should simply get free Energy "packs" whenever you buy Boosters.

The time-consumption, the odds, the rewards... it's just unfair.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (01-07-2012 19:27:03)

Izayoi · 01-07-2012 20:32:42

I found most of the trophies of this event rather fair, except for THAT perfect on turn 7 trophy. That was just too hardcore and I was forced to spend hours asking for favors to my friend list. And maybe to the kill all 3 opponents on the same turn, because it is only possible with very few decks and which main cards became more expensive because of that.

The other trophies seems fair to me though.

Nurvus · 01-07-2012 20:47:31

Izayoi a écrit :

I found most of the trophies of this event rather fair, except for THAT perfect on turn 7 trophy. That was just too hardcore and I was forced to spend hours asking for favors to my friend list. And maybe to the kill all 3 opponents on the same turn, because it is only possible with very few decks and which main cards became more expensive because of that.
The other trophies seems fair to me though.

It's not whether or not you can do them.

It's how you are expected to:
- Have enough decks to do them all
- Be lucky or have enough people willing to "give you" the perfect/etc
- Be lucky not to have opponents quitting the moment they see your deck
- You have to repeat 4 trophies to get the Good character
- Or you have to repeat 8 trophies to get the Evil character
- Or you have to repeat 20 trophies to get both characters
- Then there's the random card that changes every day, wich means you have to decide whether to postpone getting the characters and try your luck, possibly getting a worthless card in the process, or risk losing a mythical...

I like the current "random card" better than the "auction", but the cost and the time required to gather the currency... are way too high.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (01-07-2012 20:52:42)

h43m · 01-07-2012 20:59:07

Don't forget that you have to do all the quests from both sides to get an Item with mistaken translation.

Izayoi · 01-07-2012 21:08:07

Nurvus a écrit :

- Have enough decks to do them all
- Be lucky or have enough people willing to "give you" the perfect/etc
- Be lucky not to have opponents quitting the moment they see your deck

I agree with that. English is not my mother language so it's a little difficult for me to state my thoghts correctly. What you say is true, having to own an almost full collection to be able to achieve the goals and trying to find fair-play players is quite frustrating at times. The trophies "To take care of your alies" and "To crush your enemies" are very frustrating beacause of that, and I hope Feerik will learn to make events without these issues.

Zurga · 01-07-2012 21:09:48

There always been event week-long like this one.
This is the well known costly monthly event.
The casual can have the Shield
A dedicated can have Kaes the protector
A very dedicated can have both.
The store is for paying players only.

The first event of this kind were fully paying event, no way to have cards without buying some boosters, and the reward was just unplayable.
([card]Mask of Amnezy[/card], [card]felys[/card], [card]solstice[/card]).
Now we have rewards playable, we have wa to do event for free (time consuming way, but a way anyway ).

Alll is not good, I'm very frustrated by the idea of only one trophy at a time, but things evolve. We have more non paying ways to do theses event than in the beginning of the game.

Nurvus · 01-07-2012 21:15:26

All I'm saying is that the rewards aren't that great - not the protector, not the malevolent, nothing.

The concept of the store is good, the trophies are okay but the numbers (how many points needed) are too high for some of them.

In short, you should've done it, respectively, requiring 10 wins, 5 perfects by turn 6, 5 "simultaneous kills", 10 missions per trophy, etc...

The shield is merely a bonus. The card is worthless, and deceiving...
A casual should be able to get the protector.
A dedicated should be able to get both.
A very dedicated should be able to spare a few tries on the UNLIKELY random card.

Time is precious to all.

And to be honest, Feerik should get rid of "pay to do trophy quickly" and "pay to get Energy" alltogether.

Give Energy packs in Boosters. Make players want to buy Boosters.

Paying for trophies is stealing from players and unfortunately some of them actually go for it...

Dernière modification par Nurvus (01-07-2012 21:17:17)

Nurvus · 01-07-2012 21:27:45

I have never seen so much lack of fairplay as in this Event.

That is for a single reason - too time consuming.

Players need to do too much in little time, they quit when the enemy doesn't have a favorable deck.

Learn from this. Please.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (01-07-2012 21:28:18)

Zurga · 01-07-2012 21:52:02

All I'm saying is that you have very short memory.
It is not a perfect event but he is far besser than firsts ones.

Stormholt · 01-07-2012 22:10:57

Zurga a écrit :

All I'm saying is that you have very short memory.
It is not a perfect event but he is far besser than firsts ones.

Yep, that's true... But i dont liked the 15 perfect victories and 10 FullKO, that was pretty hard, no one could do it by himself(only if he got flames of phoenix AoE discart or tempus deck) I bet that 80% of the players done at least one of this thophyes with help of friends... But what we cant lie, is that is event was fair, it was not like Scragh event, where you could not finish that without using feez... I would like to see more events like these, with a store and this stuff.. But i do think too that this store was a fail, the chance to won the event cards is too small, it doesn't worth the price of 65 feez, or even worst 300 Kaes eggs(or whatever that is)

This is my feedback about the event, it was nice, but pretty hard...

Nurvus · 01-07-2012 22:28:00

Zurga a écrit :

All I'm saying is that you have very short memory.
It is not a perfect event but he is far besser than firsts ones.

It's better than scragh, better than second Dhan event, but worse than first dhan event.

The first time Dhan event was introduced, it was fairly good.
We get 8 commons, 4 uncommons and 4 rares if we do everything.
We also got Dhan.

The second Dhan event was worse because of the new "metagame" and the kind of decks and characters floating around, making it alot harder to do the trophies compared to back then.
Plus, alot more players quit games halfway.

In this event, we get a shield that doesn't do what it says it does, a shulong that can't be used in tournaments, and a decent mercenary warrior.

Event cards, again super random...

Should've been 300 kaes for ONE of the 3 cards GUARANTEED, 600 for the Protector and 800 for the Malevolent.

Like Stormholt said, the perfect & multikill ask for too many attempts.

Everyone is quitting left and right in this event.
Because you need win, I need perfect. if my deck is better, you quit.
I need multikill, I use shulong/phoenix/whatever - you need perfect - you quit.

Etc, etc.

Dernière modification par Nurvus (01-07-2012 22:34:10)

Nurvus · 01-07-2012 23:52:27

But I agree Zurga that perhaps the most frustrating thing is 1 trophy at a time.

If it was multiple trophies this Event would be alot less frustrating.

vampiricshaman · 02-07-2012 00:06:20

or even the chance to abandon a quest when we can only one at a time but multiple quests

iQuit · 02-07-2012 01:13:54

The most disappointing thing is you pay to do 3 (damn hard ) missions to get a card from the store . ONLY 1 CARD , and it is not even worth it , yay , i can try to get a collector one in a sea of cards floating around and around !

The only thing i like in this time-consuming-and-need-to-have-many-different-deck-to-complete is the guild boosters discount

Well the game is fun but the rewards from events doesn't worth it , to finish many events , you need a correct deck to do it = you need money , but the reward is just 1-2 cool card(s) for finishing the event and the rest is random

vampiricshaman a écrit :

or even the chance to abandon a quest when we can only one at a time but multiple quests

lol on the ...tho guy event , you have to pay 199 to get a completely lame trophy

Dernière modification par iQuit (02-07-2012 01:16:11)

vampiricshaman · 02-07-2012 02:12:26

i was thinking of a way that for someone to go back to it later so they are not stuck on a one quest that they cant do for now that does not freez or that costs less but they do not get the trophy

Cossette · 02-07-2012 02:30:08

-Well this event is fine, but the timing isn't...

-they are use to put one week allowance on every event they make, but they never realize that feerik are making more and more trophy's to finish than the allotted timeline. (spending feez to the devoted people and skip the "play for fun" part)

-the problems came with that, cause people want to finish the trophy and get back to their lives... they tend to play unfairly mess the whole play for fun thingy.

-two weeks for long and repeatable event and one week for simple event with few trophy's will solve this situation...

people have lives too play not just eredan.

Dernière modification par Cossette (02-07-2012 02:44:49)

catcatcat · 02-07-2012 03:29:41

I like this event but my only complaint is that 15 turn 6+ perfects. That's just brutal and borderline impossible without cooperation from friends. Perhaps the goal of this event was to get more players to use that new chat website they just introduced recently?

Dernière modification par catcatcat (02-07-2012 03:30:40)

Teremune · 02-07-2012 05:35:26

Nurvus a écrit :

A casual player should be able to get 1 of the characters.
A dedicated player should be able to get both characters.
A very dedicated player should be able to get both characters and go for several attempts at the rare cards.
Feerik should just remove the option to spend money on trophies or Energy.
You should simply get free Energy "packs" whenever you buy Boosters.
The time-consumption, the odds, the rewards... it's just unfair.

I think Feerik made this even so people would spend more Real money, 99 fee's for 1 card, I spent a about 1.2k fee's and got maybe 2 cards i can use the rest sell for crap, then i think about it, i had better chance buying the 120 fee's booster and i would atleast have more crap cards and at least, if not more good cards. So it's a loss for. and some of the requirements for the takes a long time, and are impossible for the casual player who do not have good a good variety of decks. But that's just my 2 crystals.

Plus with the time I put into this last event has kinda made made me quit from a fight against someone who i just fought because it won't count towards my quota. and i understand when people do it to me. Not everyone can spend 15 hours a day on this game.

Dernière modification par Teremune (02-07-2012 05:40:19)

Zorak · 02-07-2012 06:13:47

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magius · 02-07-2012 08:07:07

Nurvus's points are all correct. I for one do not have days and days of spare time to finish an event such as this. I have a life outside games.

So I skipped it. My choice I know. Instead I focus on the weekly trophy (which has also have its point requirement raised from previous trophies [use to be 1 point for *Insert action 1*, 9 additional points if *Insert Action 2*).

Kinda miss a nice event but unfortunately this is the direction Feerik is going . Shame though as I cannot enjoy all the aspect of it due to the time limit.

Dernière modification par magius (02-07-2012 08:07:21)

blackwaltz · 02-07-2012 11:00:02

a fine example of fair play in this event:

he knows his discard deck can't win on 45 card marzhim deck, then the maintenance counter appears, he delays the game till timer went off what a jerk. this event taught me a good lesson if the opponent is about to get a perfect quit!! if you think your opponent is gonna get points from you quit before he does!!! fairplay are for smucks

Dernière modification par blackwaltz (02-07-2012 11:18:57)

Martl · 02-07-2012 12:09:46

I agree to blackwaltz. Although i´m a player who spends a lot of time in the game i wont get the second kaes.

one reason is the high amount of leavers and timeouters. we really need more punishment if somebody quits more than 5 games a day.

yesterday i played most of the time against opponents who had better chances from the charakter setup, because so many leavers.

maybe it would help to lengten the amount of time of a huge event like this, because now everybody is so greedy for easy wins.

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