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#1 09-04-2012 11:37:39

gamerman1369
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ok now that doesnt seem right

Hi all well i have a bit of a (I Cant Be leave This S*%#) Moments ok i know drops are not 100%....80%.....^)%=. sense last night i fought nomad boss 3 times last night won every fight no drop >< OK np i've  had bad runs....get on this morn and do the run 2 more times wa waa waaaa nope so i was ok ill do a diffrent boss knock down kotoba boss slay him dead. ;-.-; OMG ! 6 !! fights no drops Im sorry thats crap!

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#2 09-04-2012 11:51:48

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#3 09-04-2012 11:54:05

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

http://forum.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?id=40026
posted this on french forum...
don't know if we'll have an answer today since it's easter but who knows...


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#4 09-04-2012 13:27:59

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

personally i been farming just that initial end mission (The treasure of Zahal - The final confrontation) and been getting cards every time (either eredan's favors, commons or uncommons), even had a lunancy 3days ago that made me rethink the ice elves and start getting a pack deck

(btw is there better drops from other missions or is it all the same?)


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#5 09-04-2012 13:42:45

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

coolasc a écrit :

(btw is there better drops from other missions or is it all the same?)

Well, time ago the admins said you've the same chances to get the cards on all bosses ( Independant of the specific territory rewards ofc ), but seems like something have changed, we're still waiting for answers

On events ( or at least for me ) they've more drop, for example Artaban dropped me like 4 or 5 rares in a few days, also the phoenix event dropped 3

Btw this image is from the french forum... never seen before a mythic dropping lol

dropsm.jpg


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#6 09-04-2012 13:47:54

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

there has been a few mythic drops:
[card]dhan[/card]
[card]artaban[/card](before the PVE campain...)
[card]lucyan[/card](at least two ppls...)
and [card]nehant shield[/card]
it has been dropped on different boss which means that the boss isn't important...
the drop rate is just really low...

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#7 09-04-2012 13:55:58

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

The drop rate of rare is not low, but favours could be rare too...


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#8 09-04-2012 14:03:36

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

OK im not complaining on the drop rate of rares. Im talking cards period, Im saying if the boss cost more to fight period the drop rate of card should be better. because i fought 6 fight bosses in a row, if i fight 4 more to make it 10 the drop rate on cards is 40% and thats if cards drop the next four fights.


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#9 09-04-2012 14:47:17

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

OK, say that there is 1EP each 5 minutes.
24 hours => 12 *24 = 288 EP (OK, we have life and we use near 180 EP per day instead of 288)
A boss is 23EP so we are able to fight 12 boss in 24 hours (OK, 8 times with a life)

So you gain 8 cards for free each day if you have a standard drop of one card by beating a boss. (Bosses drop cards from 0 to 3 each times)

8 cards is 2 basic boosters of 120 Feez.

So, actually you make 2 boosters a day for free.
Should I say that Ferik must live and they have money only if people use their money in boosters and EP ?

Do basic math and you will see that the current drop is fair for all.


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#10 09-04-2012 15:06:20

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ok now you say its fair how 8 boss fight in a 24 hour period good for me wow for established player to know adventure not for you! and for the fact i have fought two more times i got one favor each time so 8 fights in a 24 hour period 2 card (favor only usable in adv.) is fair! for that much energy i could train (5 ep missions) cards all day long and still get favors. REALLY fair! how and now that you tell us aww you poor people who play are game all day long lifeless so that proves the point.
Make me mad that i do play to play this game and get told oooh your level 19 that's to bad the level 13's own this game sorry for being a good player but WE DONT CARE!

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#11 09-04-2012 15:41:37

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

gamerman1369 a écrit :

ok now you say its fair how 8 boss fight in a 24 hour period good for me wow for established player to know adventure not for you! and for the fact i have fought two more times i got one favor each time so 8 fights in a 24 hour period 2 card (favor only usable in adv.) is fair! for that much energy i could train (5 ep missions) cards all day long and still get favors. REALLY fair! how and now that you tell us aww you poor people who play are game all day long lifeless so that proves the point.
Make me mad that i do play to play this game and get told oooh your level 19 that's to bad the level 13's own this game sorry for being a good player but WE DONT CARE!

what are you talking about?seriously did not understand any of that


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#12 09-04-2012 15:47:09

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

gamerman1369 a écrit :

ok now you say its fair how 8 boss fight in a 24 hour period good for me wow for established player to know adventure not for you! and for the fact i have fought two more times i got one favor each time so 8 fights in a 24 hour period 2 card (favor only usable in adv.) is fair! for that much energy i could train (5 ep missions) cards all day long and still get favors. REALLY fair! how and now that you tell us aww you poor people who play are game all day long lifeless so that proves the point.
Make me mad that i do play to play this game and get told oooh your level 19 that's to bad the level 13's own this game sorry for being a good player but WE DONT CARE!

Clearly, Feerik is personally attacking you because they hate you.

We do not blame them.


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#13 09-04-2012 15:49:07

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

gamerman1369 a écrit :

ok now you say its fair how 8 boss fight in a 24 hour period good for me wow for established player to know adventure not for you! and for the fact i have fought two more times i got one favor each time so 8 fights in a 24 hour period 2 card (favor only usable in adv.) is fair! for that much energy i could train (5 ep missions) cards all day long and still get favors. REALLY fair! how and now that you tell us aww you poor people who play are game all day long lifeless so that proves the point.
Make me mad that i do play to play this game and get told oooh your level 19 that's to bad the level 13's own this game sorry for being a good player but WE DONT CARE!

Sorry, I do not understand your last post.
My English is not good enough for that.

I don't think I was disdainful for anyone whatever his level is.
The boss of the Zahal treasure is doable by any deck (or almost).

In average you get one card by win against a boss, sometimes is none, sometimes it's more.

Play 4 times a boss, you gain in average 4 card, this mean a basic booster each day.
Sometimes you get favours, OK, not playable card, sometimes you get others cards and you can play with them.

I don't see any unfair system there.


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#14 09-04-2012 15:50:34

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

Zurga a écrit :

OK, say that there is 1EP each 5 minutes.
24 hours => 12 *24 = 288 EP (OK, we have life and we use near 180 EP per day instead of 288)
A boss is 23EP so we are able to fight 12 boss in 24 hours (OK, 8 times with a life)

So you gain 8 cards for free each day if you have a standard drop of one card by beating a boss. (Bosses drop cards from 0 to 3 each times)

8 cards is 2 basic boosters of 120 Feez.

So, actually you make 2 boosters a day for free.
Should I say that Ferik must live and they have money only if people use their money in boosters and EP ?

Do basic math and you will see that the current drop is fair for all.


i agree that it's fair for all, could i just suggest 1-2 or 1-3 (i know this could be a bit unfair for ferik since u'd now be giving average 2/boss wich would mean about 16/day aka 1 regular and 1 basic pack) cards instead of 0-3, like that we wouldn't see this complains, still giving the average 1,5cards/boss but everyone would be happy, personally i like how it is (i'm one lucky only to had v few 0 cards and some 3 cards drops), but let's take the mind of the hive xD

btw if u say 8x day with 0-3 cards each (if chance of drop 0, 1, 2 or 3 is the same) is 2 basic, it actually is even 1 non basic but non clan selected booster 8x1,5=12cards

Edit: but must also agree with the poster blelow me

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#15 09-04-2012 15:57:04

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

@ zurga: that's not completely right...
drop rate of booster for uncommon and rare cards are a lot higher...
and you don't loot favour in booster...
of course it's a good thing that we got free cards thanks to the PVE. but don't say feerik offers us 2 basic boosters a day. it's ridiculous.
I bought many basic booster and got one legendary and "plenty" of rare and uncommon...
PVE got me one rare and only a few uncommon...


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#16 09-04-2012 16:16:40

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

You've got lucky.
I've bought a lot of boosters too, and I have not found any legendary.
Drop rate of rare and uncommon is in line with what I've got in Adventure mode.

Same for XP cards.

Leaving only favours cards which can be found when you buy EP.

If I take what i received yesterday, I was able to receive 8 playable cards with enough unommon to fullfill the standard rate.


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#17 09-04-2012 17:33:38

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

I just bought 15 min ago 2 basics and there was [card]Wakizashi[/card] on one, [card]Turned to the shadow side[/card] on other, the rest is useless and low priced but playable cards. Ok maybe a bit lucky, i dont know.

Now lets see what i got from the adventure... [card]se busca[/card] ( Cant link Wanted! ) x10, [card]simple shield[/card] x11, [card]the pen is mightier...[/card] x6, [card]blast![/card] x10, [card]Exorcism[/card] x9, [card]War axe[/card] x9 and lot of this was from the last days

I have to admit, on artabans event i got some rares, the best and the only useful of them was [card]Assassination[/card], but you can't really compare the pve to 2 boosters per day, not even 1 in my opinion, the drop i can get from a booster is really better than the drop i get farming bosses in maybe a week


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#18 09-04-2012 17:55:48

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

why do yuo guys get that in 4 booster packs????? i only get @*?#


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#19 09-04-2012 17:59:13

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

I have bought 4 boosters of 4 cards yesterday and my best drop is [card]Time Bomb[/card] (15 others crap with no value on the market).
Yesterday, I received [card]Win using Fervor[/card] in adventure.

I know that I have no luck with the booster, but Adventure mode has currently dropped to me 1000 playable cards  13 rare among them and 139 uncommon, 848 common for 451 distinct cards.

Not bad numbers I think.

If I take the whole 1317 cards dropped, I have 91 cards rare including favours and we can add 35 XP cards more than 100 XP.
Not bad number if we look at the numbers in the boosters (1/12 = 8.33% of rare).


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#20 09-04-2012 18:21:56

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Uhm well, while i said "playable card" i was referring to a viable card for a deck, even if not the best or optimal, a card that you can place on some deck. Obviously you wont put on any deck the 95% cards you got from adventure, but buy some boosters and if you dont have really bad luck you'll get a few decent cards

Anyway the point of the thread was about if something changed... My french is really bad and translator just help sometimes cause not everyone write understable tongue so I hardly can read it... someone of you know if there's something announced or was this just a bad-luck-spree?


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#21 09-04-2012 18:33:37

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Actually, no information.
I expect to have some answers tomorrow.


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#22 09-04-2012 18:43:17

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

I´d like to join this discussion, see adventue drops aren´t so bad, yup comparing it to boosters it´s insane u easly get a legend at 1 booster than at 1000 boss fight, but i can´t really complain ITS FREE! and also it gave me a couple of usefull rares and playable cards.
We can´t be sad it´s all about luck xD

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#23 09-04-2012 19:14:39

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

I totally agree with you Damncaster

why complaining about cards u get for free and u dont have to spend a single feez for and even if u have to fight 100 times to get 1 good card its better than getting none


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#24 09-04-2012 19:40:19

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

Free cards > no cards


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#25 09-04-2012 20:19:29

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Re : ok now that doesnt seem right

I only complain about what spending money on EP gets you...

- Low odds against Boss fights you don't necessarily beat 100% of the time.
- Event-specific cards that aren't really useful/competitive.

Money spent on EP does not even remotely compare to money spent on Boosters.

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