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#51 15-01-2012 06:20:15

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Re : Adventure Mode Boss Rewards

Nurvus a écrit :

Would be awesome if everyone who flamed Farmer2220 manned up and apologized for the assholery to wich he had to be subjected.

I agree with myself.


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#52 16-01-2012 19:56:52

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got a narcissism today smile a rare for once


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#53 16-01-2012 22:32:36

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Re : Adventure Mode Boss Rewards

soulst3al3r a écrit :

got a narcissism today smile a rare for once

which boss and deck did you use?


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#54 17-01-2012 00:44:34

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soulst3al3r a écrit :

got a narcissism today smile a rare for once

which boss and deck did you use?

got it from malandrin, using a sap heart deck


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#55 17-01-2012 05:53:24

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Re : Adventure Mode Boss Rewards

Did they nerf the rewards for the 23 energy mission

I used to get a card EVERY SINGLE TIME

Now Im lucky to get a single card per 3 games


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#56 17-01-2012 06:04:27

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Talamare a écrit :

Did they nerf the rewards for the 23 energy mission

I used to get a card EVERY SINGLE TIME

Now Im lucky to get a single card per 3 games


Agreed. And when I do it's a favor. Do me no more favors please.


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#57 17-01-2012 09:19:24

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Re : Adventure Mode Boss Rewards

I guess when they meant by random rewards, it is really random hmm


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#58 17-01-2012 17:06:45

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Re : Adventure Mode Boss Rewards

Talamare a écrit :

Did they nerf the rewards for the 23 energy mission

yes


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#59 17-01-2012 17:08:06

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Talamare a écrit :

Did they nerf the rewards for the 23 energy mission

yes

You do realize we're talking about bosses alot of people can't even beat, and when they do they get nothing.

What was Feerik thinking?

Getting beaten by Nomad boss, until I finally managed to make a deck that has a 60% chance to win... and I get nothing?

If Feerik wants to slow the flow of cards, make it less likely to drop normal cards, and higher chances on the old event cards and whatnot, wich lowers the influence of Adventure Mode on booster sales.

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#60 17-01-2012 20:05:46

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DaRkStAr666 a écrit :
Talamare a écrit :

Did they nerf the rewards for the 23 energy mission

yes

In that case can you lower the energy cost to 20, so that we can do the mission 3 times without waiting like an hour in between


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#61 17-01-2012 23:11:33

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Re : Adventure Mode Boss Rewards

I got a [card]Six Feet Under[/card] from beating the ursend boss like 30 times. I also got a +500xp card. For the most part, all you get is crap though.


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#62 17-01-2012 23:14:58

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Nurvus a écrit :

If Feerik wants to slow the flow of cards, make it less likely to drop normal cards, and higher chances on the old event cards and whatnot, wich lowers the influence of Adventure Mode on booster sales.

+1, or something like it.

I get the whole point of decreasing the rewards to decrease benefits to freebies. However, but when one runs the risk of getting nothing/zip/zero/nada, the desire to *ever* purchase extra energy is absolutely zero.

While Feerik may be unhappy with people getting cards for free, this recent change has effectively made one's desire to buy energy also go to zero. Thus, the adventure mode becomes a zero benefit for them, and the project manager in me recommends they stop throwing resources at it all together.

--A

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#63 17-01-2012 23:40:20

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Re : Adventure Mode Boss Rewards

ashman a écrit :

I get the whole point of decreasing the rewards to decrease benefits to freebies. However, but when one runs the risk of getting nothing/zip/zero/nada, the desire to *ever* purchase extra energy is absolutely zero.

While Feerik may be unhappy with people getting cards for free, this recent change has effectively made one's desire to buy energy also go to zero. Thus, the adventure mode becomes a zero benefit for them, and the project manager in me recommends they stop throwing resources at it all together.

--A


I pretty much agree with this.  It seems almost impossible to find a nice balance between giving decent rewards and having a negative impact on their booster sales.  No matter what they do, people are just going to complain.


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#64 18-01-2012 00:24:30

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Re : Adventure Mode Boss Rewards

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ashman a écrit :

I get the whole point of decreasing the rewards to decrease benefits to freebies. However, but when one runs the risk of getting nothing/zip/zero/nada, the desire to *ever* purchase extra energy is absolutely zero.

While Feerik may be unhappy with people getting cards for free, this recent change has effectively made one's desire to buy energy also go to zero. Thus, the adventure mode becomes a zero benefit for them, and the project manager in me recommends they stop throwing resources at it all together.

--A


I pretty much agree with this.  It seems almost impossible to find a nice balance between giving decent rewards and having a negative impact on their booster sales.  No matter what they do, people are just going to complain.

It's not impossible at all.
I thought increased Energy cost was a bad thing, but no, actually it's the only sollution.

The way to fix this is actually something like this:
- increasing Boss mission cost to 30, so you can do only 2 in a short amount of time.
- reduce the Feez price of Energy
- guarantee reward on every boss.
- put a bit lower chances on booster cards, and more chances on event, trophy and Epic cards (those bought from the store).
- within booster cards that drop in Adventure Mode, remove the cards from the Newcomers booster, as well as any Legendaries.

This way, Boosters and Adventure Mode have their own "niche" of cards, instead of conflicting with each other.

- Free players aren't likely to beat bosses easily
- Free players can't spam too many fights
- Paying players will have a reason to purchase energy
- Everyone gets something out of bosses

Those who pay for Energy, will see visibly better results.

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#65 18-01-2012 00:28:59

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Re : Adventure Mode Boss Rewards

catcatcat a écrit :
ashman a écrit :

I get the whole point of decreasing the rewards to decrease benefits to freebies. However, but when one runs the risk of getting nothing/zip/zero/nada, the desire to *ever* purchase extra energy is absolutely zero.

While Feerik may be unhappy with people getting cards for free, this recent change has effectively made one's desire to buy energy also go to zero. Thus, the adventure mode becomes a zero benefit for them, and the project manager in me recommends they stop throwing resources at it all together.

--A


I pretty much agree with this.  It seems almost impossible to find a nice balance between giving decent rewards and having a negative impact on their booster sales.  No matter what they do, people are just going to complain.

What if the did something like, If you bought something in the last two weeks then you are guaranteed cards in adventure mode an maybe up the chance of getting the event cards, an if you don't then it is how it is now. Kinda like how you have to make purchases to use the market.

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#66 18-01-2012 00:37:04

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You mean like replacing the "ability to sell in the Marketplace" with a Premium service that gives you the "ability to sell cards in the Marketplace" as well as a slightly improved Adventure Mode reward?

It's not a bad idea, but consider this:
Some players buy alot in a single week, while others buy little but frequently.
One should not be benefitted over the other.


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#67 18-01-2012 00:58:57

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Nurvus a écrit :

You mean like replacing the "ability to sell in the Marketplace" with a Premium service that gives you the "ability to sell cards in the Marketplace" as well as a slightly improved Adventure Mode reward?

It's not a bad idea, but consider this:
Some players buy alot in a single week, while others buy little but frequently.
One should not be benefitted over the other.

I agree, but I'm not understanding how one would benefit over another. I'm not sure how often you have to buy to be able to use the market, but I'm just saying add this as a benefit to buying on top of that.Whenever you would not be able to use the market from not buying,you also would get cards less frequent. Most of us that are buying are just getting cards we already have anyway an are playing adventure mode for the event cards an the unlikely event that we get a rare reward. People who haven't bought anything in a while still get card rewards, just less frequent.

P.S. Thanks Nurvus, you bought a Ivory bow I had for sell earlier.


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#68 18-01-2012 01:00:38

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Re : Adventure Mode Boss Rewards

hotfoot a écrit :

What if the did something like, If you bought something in the last two weeks then you are guaranteed cards in adventure mode an maybe up the chance of getting the event cards, an if you don't then it is how it is now. Kinda like how you have to make purchases to use the market.

I like how intelligent the community can be...at times smile Many of us seem on the same page. See my suggestion in the Suggestions section.

Have a good day,

--A


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#69 18-01-2012 01:06:00

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Re : Adventure Mode Boss Rewards

ashman a écrit :
hotfoot a écrit :

What if the did something like, If you bought something in the last two weeks then you are guaranteed cards in adventure mode an maybe up the chance of getting the event cards, an if you don't then it is how it is now. Kinda like how you have to make purchases to use the market.

I like how intelligent the community can be...at times smile Many of us seem on the same page. See my suggestion in the Suggestions section.

Have a good day,

--A

haha, wow, great minds I guess wink


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