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Gabriel_Caetano · 16-02-2011 18:25:28

Well, I came up with this idea...

Salem
Telendar
The Shadow

2 disappear
2 surprise
1 time to die
1 dagger master
3 theft
2 obesity
1 stormy
1 scheme
1 watcher

2 living dagger
2 fist blade
2 obscure

that makes a very unexpecting deck!

maybe we could add some kiss of death as well

Gabriel_Caetano · 22-02-2011 15:51:39

it works! it`s a monster!

Raymond4PLP · 22-02-2011 16:05:03

i like it...don't really understand what is [card]salem[/card] doing there, if you don't use [card]panic[/card]s, but it's great... and it's a completely new twist for Zil maruanders, with no [card]asesinato[/card]s (can't get the card in english to be displayed xD) and no [card]a warrior's fury[/card]... sweet

0_Shanks · 22-02-2011 16:19:50

Gabriel_Caetano a écrit :

it works! it`s a monster!

Telendar
The Shadow
2 obesity
1 stormy
2 living dagger
2 fist blade

I'd be surprise of the opposite.

Gabriel_Caetano · 22-02-2011 16:32:14

Raymond4PLP a écrit :

i like it...don't really understand what is [card]salem[/card] doing there, if you don't use [card]panic[/card]s, but it's great... and it's a completely new twist for Zil maruanders, with no [card]asesinato[/card]s (can't get the card in english to be displayed xD) and no [card]a warrior's fury[/card]... sweet

because he's highly defensive, you know, i could keep him alive against abomb in the 3rd turn!

Limestone · 27-02-2011 17:49:57

Forgive my intrusion gabe but I think this one kinda lack in chains, so far I've seen it up to 5 chains 2 more chains would be nice because most of the chains are best chained with specific card only e.g. TTD can only chain surprise.

Need more general chain imho

Dernière modification par Limestone (27-02-2011 18:08:49)

Ghnan · 15-09-2011 17:05:20

I have been searching for a decent Zil deck and this seems to be the cheapest one available and yes I know I am reviving an old thread and net-decking. I am quite new at deckbuilding so I figure I start from here.

I just have a few questions before I invest the money

1. Does this deck really work? Salem looks a bit weak to me. Defensive when he gets his order but other times? I think I need explaining how to use him properly. Actually, how does this deck win? Discard/milling or killing the opponent's character?

2. Can this deck hold his own in the ELO rooms?

3. How would you improve the deck if it's possible?

Thanks again

Gabriel_Caetano · 16-09-2011 15:00:05

Ghnan a écrit :

I have been searching for a decent Zil deck and this seems to be the cheapest one available and yes I know I am reviving an old thread and net-decking. I am quite new at deckbuilding so I figure I start from here.
I just have a few questions before I invest the money
1. Does this deck really work? Salem looks a bit weak to me. Defensive when he gets his order but other times? I think I need explaining how to use him properly. Actually, how does this deck win? Discard/milling or killing the opponent's character?
2. Can this deck hold his own in the ELO rooms?
3. How would you improve the deck if it's possible?
Thanks again

WOW! You kinda resurrected this thread!
Ok, let's help you out...

1 - It DID work on a kind of 50/50 basis. I made up this deck for fun but never went real fur with it.

2 - the way it is? No way. When i made up this deck i wanted to work with direct damage, like using dagger master 2x per game, i never did it (i don't have scheme anyway). The deck i'm playing now is this http://forum.eredan.com/viewtopic.php?id=28145, you see i'm a zil fan! In fact it's been playing wonders so far (havin trouble with a lot of immortals but as soon as i get [card]sentence[/card]...)

3 - I kinda answered on 2, but you want something cheap as well, huh? i'll thin over it and be back shortly with an answer

Ghnan · 16-09-2011 17:20:12

Well, thanks for answering. I haven't completed it.....thank God

I did buy some of the vital material for a zil deck tho: 2 fist blades, 1 living dagger, telendar, and I just got stormy. I had The Shadow even before I found your deck online so that's all good Trying to get Obesity since I think it's also one of the staples for a Zil deck.

I want to play direct damage Zil, but it's just too inconsistent (VS Multi-Race Sap Heart, Kotoba Crow/Tracker), so I am really debating to switch to Kotoba - Crow. We'll see how expensive the Crow deck is.

Last question:
Stormy deals 1-3 damage to ALL living chars. How is that beneficial for a Zil deck with Low D that usually ends up in the 2-3s at the end of the first rounds of fights.

Thanks again for answering

Samsari · 16-09-2011 17:49:49

Ghnan a écrit :

Stormy deals 1-3 damage to ALL living chars. How is that beneficial for a Zil deck with Low D that usually ends up in the 2-3s at the end of the first rounds of fights.

Most times you out damage your opponent so killing yourself too is not a issue.

Mr. Saint-Germain · 16-09-2011 17:57:01

Actually, an optimal direct damage zil deck would rather go for [card]Volée de flèches[/card] than storm, but you need to reach 1800 ELO first. That's not easy with a cheap deck. Also you would use [card]Saphyra la zil[/card] :)

Gabriel_Caetano · 16-09-2011 18:46:49

Ghnan a écrit :

Well, thanks for answering. I haven't completed it.....thank God
I did buy some of the vital material for a zil deck tho: 2 fist blades, 1 living dagger, telendar, and I just got stormy. I had The Shadow even before I found your deck online so that's all good Trying to get Obesity since I think it's also one of the staples for a Zil deck.
I want to play direct damage Zil, but it's just too inconsistent (VS Multi-Race Sap Heart, Kotoba Crow/Tracker), so I am really debating to switch to Kotoba - Crow. We'll see how expensive the Crow deck is.
Last question:
Stormy deals 1-3 damage to ALL living chars. How is that beneficial for a Zil deck with Low D that usually ends up in the 2-3s at the end of the first rounds of fights.
Thanks again for answering

If you wanna work with direct damage: saphyra and telendar just to start. then you get 2-3 living dagger, 2-3 fist blade and if you have budget, only 2 of each and 2 [card]artrezil's blade[/card]. Dagger master of course, 1-2 [card]stirring up hatred[/card], 1-2 [card]chink in the armor[/card] and i recommend [card]offensive[/card] (trophy card). Then you get 1 [card]at daggers drawn[/card], then you fill up with a 3rd char (if possible abomb, i don't have that either, i use the shadow) and attack-up cards, so either way you're supposed to deal massive damage to your opponent. Every now and then i end up with a score over 100, paralleled only by immortal decks wich get to 100 but with healing instead. Storm is a great card as well. Imagine that on the 3rd turn you play 2 stirring up hatred and on the 4th you choose telendar and play storm and dagger master chained? straight 8 direct on each char + 4-6 on the opposing chars with storm and you're only taking 2-4! i swear to god, it feels great! or instead of storm you play chink in the armor in case one of the opposing chars have too many hp for dagger master alone? I do this stuff all the time and they never see it coming!

Dernière modification par Gabriel_Caetano (16-09-2011 18:54:40)

Gabriel_Caetano · 16-09-2011 21:48:52

And you gotta mind that zil works on a kinda kamikaze way as well: A good zil beatdown doesn't regard for its own well being as long as the enemy suffers most! Take the idea of the card [card]kiss of death[/card] for example: It works best when you have a one-on-one last turn... how many times i had to swallow it with warrior's fury? haha

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