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#1 Re : Deck and Strategy » zil dagger beatdown updated! » 29-05-2012 17:01:45

Gabriel_Caetano a écrit :

still trying to get a zil, the living shadow though... tryed to get one in the new comers but the best card i got was one of the runics... then i bough a couple of 4 packs and got a master mage pilkim! hahaha but still no zil in the market though...

Lucky yikes Plikim is a high seller!

#2 Re : Deck and Strategy » zil dagger beatdown updated! » 28-05-2012 20:26:53

skadooosh a écrit :

ok, but you can still have dissidence (but you have to pay 190 fee"z)

I know I'm planning on it next time i spend smile thanks for your input big_smile

#3 Re : Deck and Strategy » zil dagger beatdown updated! » 28-05-2012 20:14:06

skadooosh a écrit :
SilentDemi a écrit :

I have always wanted to do a zil dagger deck and your set up looks nice. What do you think about Once upon a time instead of It is time with a Life Devourer since you can get a free one from the merc starter deck?

yeah, but a living dagger would be a better choice (helps telendar survive...) but if you only have life devourer, put it in the deck (you need 6 daggers...!)

about the deck..
you need more toolbox!
I personnaly use: one clumsiness, one paranoïa, one dissidence, and one Difference of opinion. tomorow, I'll had one dark stone heart and one sentence...
those cards make you win matches.

I was considering adding dark stone heart and dissidence but since dissidence is trophy that isn't happening too soon. Telendars black blade (3 of them in) fit the role of paranoia instead
EDIT: also telendar isnt rly supposed to survive more than 2 fights, without that specific combo at the start of the game life devourer doesn't change much.

#4 Re : Deck and Strategy » zil dagger beatdown updated! » 28-05-2012 20:12:09

SilentDemi a écrit :

I have always wanted to do a zil dagger deck and your set up looks nice. What do you think about Once upon a time instead of It is time with a Life Devourer since you can get a free one from the merc starter deck?

That sounds good if you can get them to work together, but the deck is about a lot of fast damage so out of the combo it activates after which is not good for this deck, the dagger's do their damage been used with master assassin (1 direct damage) and hidden blades (2 direct damage when used with a dagger already equipped) its time is mainly used with saphyra when needed (with dagger's not needed much) and the combo dagger master-it is time combo with saphyra. Your change wouldn't effect it too much but its not something i would do smile

#6 Re : Deck and Strategy » zil dagger beatdown » 28-05-2012 17:09:17

This post has been Very helpful to me so if anyone has any constructive input they could make and don't mind I'd like to hear what you have to say smile

#7 Re : Deck and Strategy » zil dagger beatdown » 28-05-2012 17:06:56

Thanks for that input, it seems main improvements for the deck are for the cards in it, I'll sell aboma for now if I can (waiting on that one) to make the best out of the inside card structure, I will have to buy him back later when I can but I think shadow, old telendar and saphyra will be a good enough line up if I get the rest right for the time been

#8 Re : Deck and Strategy » zil dagger beatdown » 28-05-2012 11:24:37

skadooosh a écrit :

anyway, shadow is better than telendar. she's got really high resistance against mage deck especially lightning mage and wild buds. noz blast is a little different since they got massive blast spell (but she often gets 4 spîrits with shadowblade...)
and she can play some shadow spell ([card]Kiss of Death[/card] or [card]Suspicion of Treason[/card]) but since you don't have zil, the living shadow, you got only one guem, so spells aren't really necessary I'd say...

abomination is a reaaaaly good character... (one of the best in fact...)so you need to use him.
he'll be a little weak against mage. but with shadowblade, he'll bbe a little more resistant.
abomination the shadow saphyra is a good line up for this deck (the best one is with zil on the shadow)

I personnaly don't play the dark stone heart...
I don't think it's usefull... you got diisidence, and Difference of opinion and with shadow, you're almost blastproof

My problem is aboma sells for about 90K on normal days and if I'm to make the inside of the deck good along with its line up I need more money... I was thinking sacrifice aboma for now to get money to make the deck cards rly good, then use that deck to save up to put aboma back in... What do u think of that (only using shadow untill I can afford to use aboma)

#9 Re : Deck and Strategy » zil dagger beatdown » 27-05-2012 21:18:02

im waiting for things to sell, ill post the new version on a new topic once ive done it smile thanks for everyone's help

#10 Re : Deck and Strategy » zil dagger beatdown » 27-05-2012 20:26:33

further to make way for saphyra should i remove telendar or shadow?
or would it be better to sell abom to make money for other cards in deck keeping shadow (is abomination a luxury i dont need)?

#11 Re : Deck and Strategy » zil dagger beatdown » 27-05-2012 20:18:16

blackwaltz a écrit :
zakamari a écrit :

Thanks ppl, I'm not sure why shadow blade is essential only giving the one attack, yes it chains but a plus 2 attack is prob better (I never have chaining problems), aside from that can someone tell me why the old telendar is better (if he dies then he only got 1 hit, compared to the survival of liberated 2 attacks been stronger than one and a amazing effect for power cards) and also saphyra been seemingly too reliant on her turn bonus?

Compared to new telendar's hp and def, old telendar chains ANY marauder card!!! One good combo(old) is Assassination+Offensive on his turn order or Dagger Master+Chink in the armor (or scroll of power) to name a few.

Yes but my point isn't the damage on the same turn (although double effects of master assassin and then a good dagger is +10 attack!) if the first telendar been fragile dies first time round then where's the further damage he is going to cause? No where. 2 attacks from the new telendar and considering his potential bonus idk why the old one is better

#12 Re : Deck and Strategy » zil dagger beatdown » 27-05-2012 20:15:54

skadooosh a écrit :

so you wanna know why saphyra??
the bonus effect of saphyra is like a +2 attack on the other character if they deal both physical and direct damage in the same turn...
of course she depends on her order bonus, but she'll always get it on her first fight (except against tempus) she chain zil cards...  [card]master assassin[/card]+[card]hidden blades[/card]=>[card]the dagger of soufferance[/card]... (some like the combo [card]dagger master[/card]+[card]it is time[/card], but definitely too sittuational...)
about [card]shadowblade[/card], of course, you lose 1 attack(compared to the other daggers)... but you also gaiin one spirit (usefull against mage decks...) and the side effect can be usefull...but what is the most important is the chain...! you can chain into [card]hidden blades[/card] to grab [card]the dagger of soufferance[/card] or a [card]telandar's black blade[/card] in order to equip two dagger (dagger master on the next fight maybe...) and you can chose where too deal three direct damage (thanks to saphyra)
you can also chain into [card]master assassin[/card] ( +2 direct damage on a random enemmy, thanks to saphyra again)


I tested both version (the one with and without saphyra) and I can tell you there's one far better than the other...

Thanks

#13 Re : Deck and Strategy » zil dagger beatdown » 27-05-2012 19:40:27

Thanks ppl, I'm not sure why shadow blade is essential only giving the one attack, yes it chains but a plus 2 attack is prob better (I never have chaining problems), aside from that can someone tell me why the old telendar is better (if he dies then he only got 1 hit, compared to the survival of liberated 2 attacks been stronger than one and a amazing effect for power cards) and also saphyra been seemingly too reliant on her turn bonus?

#15 Re : Deck and Strategy » Clover » 21-04-2012 16:36:21

Ok thanks everyone, that's all i wanted to know smile

#16 Deck and Strategy » Clover » 21-04-2012 16:22:57

zakamari
Réponses : 3

Just a quick question, would Clover (pirate craftsman - warrior) Have any effect on P.L.O.P and Infernal cricket (her effect states one handed powder weapons activate immediately)?

#17 Re : Deck and Strategy » pirate aoe? » 21-04-2012 15:54:01

Narwhal's snipe activates the moment it is played or at the beginning the fight. So let's say your opponent played reboot the machine, at the start of the fight (before your cards are played) Narwhal activates (snipe!), one of the cards he plays is reboot the machine Narwhal activates again (snipe!). And that is a total of two snipes smile.

Ah thanks (i was confused when nahwal activated) and by that if u played Conquer or Perish after reboot the machine (if you have 4 powder tokens to chain) then that's (if its you're turn) an attack and 2 snipes if that works (comments welcome). Now im only confused on how my other characters took frequent but smaller amounts of damage (lower than the power of a snipe) ?

EDIT: they took the damage while tapped and sorry I just realized i was spelling narwhal wrong! yikes

#18 Re : Deck and Strategy » pirate aoe? » 21-04-2012 15:27:16

blackwaltz a écrit :

[card]Reboot the machine[/card] reactivates weapons and armor carried by the user. I guess a character carrying Narwhal played this, meaning Narwhal's snipe ability was activated a 2nd time making double sniping possible with only one narwhal.

but nahwal attacks after actions and stuff has already been played, so if it activated when reboot the machine was played, would it still activate again at the end of the turn when its technically already active? (considering usualy i dont imagine a weapon can activate twice in a turn)

#19 Deck and Strategy » pirate aoe? » 21-04-2012 15:08:36

zakamari
Réponses : 5

A few days back i fought a pirate deck that basically constantly hurt all my characters at once e.g i was in combat and they attacked me + killed my other 2 without multiple nahwal or weapon kata... I cant remember fully if they used many powder tokens (i dont think they did) and they were in terms of character i think Souchi, Azalys, and possibly Gemineye. The only other noticeable detail is they had 3 infernal cricket and used Reboot the machine.  I was perfected by turn 4, can anyone try and shed some light on how they achieved what they did/what sort of cards they were likely using (i cant remember)?

#20 Re : Bugs » the sand of the arena » 17-04-2012 22:18:26

Zurga a écrit :

The time limit is 25 minutes even it is says that you have 1 hour and 25 minutes.
Trouble with Day saving time.

thanks, sorry for the trouble

#21 Bugs » the sand of the arena » 17-04-2012 22:06:51

zakamari
Réponses : 3

i just completed the challenge defeating the 4 in the time limit (i did it champion back instead of right way round) and i did not receive anything, the trophy just vanished... help?

#22 Re : Deck and Strategy » Sol'RA Avatar? » 15-04-2012 16:03:29

OHanicide a écrit :
Aigle1705 a écrit :

[card]stoneeater[/card]
[card]the eternal[/card]
[card]announ tho[/card] ( [card]annun tho[/card] with [card]neferthot[/card] = no dmg from avatar )

cause:
they are priest to heal each other
n
they are mage to boost [card]harshness[/card]

or

[card]councilor ishaia[/card]
[card]doyen verace-councilor[/card]

using [card]diplomatic error[/card]
n heal with [card]the ball[/card]

What event did those cards come out of?!?
And Solra avatar is a lot more trouble than he is worth lol Sun armor is the best approach on the deck however.

announ tho and nefertoht are event cards....

#23 Re : Deck and Strategy » Sol'RA Avatar? » 15-04-2012 15:47:18

skadooosh a écrit :
zakamari a écrit :

How do you get nefertoht? i didnt get it in the event but i have announ tho?

then you won't be able to have it....
it was an event item...
maybe you'll loot it in PVE with tremendous luck....

well that sucks sad ill make sure i dont miss an event like that again... never know when it will be useful

#24 Re : Deck and Strategy » Sol'RA Avatar? » 15-04-2012 15:42:58

Aigle1705 a écrit :

[card]stoneeater[/card]
[card]the eternal[/card]
[card]announ tho[/card] ( [card]annun tho[/card] with [card]neferthot[/card] = no dmg from avatar )

cause:
they are priest to heal each other
n
they are mage to boost [card]harshness[/card]

or

[card]councilor ishaia[/card]
[card]doyen verace-councilor[/card]

using [card]diplomatic error[/card]
n heal with [card]the ball[/card]

How do you get nefertoht? i didnt get it in the event but i have announ tho?

#25 Re : Deck and Strategy » Sol'RA Avatar? » 15-04-2012 15:35:50

Zurga a écrit :

You can try the [card]sun armor[/card] or play the horrible Ishaia / Verace / Avatar with [card]Harshness[/card] and [card]Diplomatic Error[/card]

I let you see what you can do.

If only i could afford cards like Ishaia sad i forgot to mention i got around 200K to spend on the whole deck Ishaia been 150K kinda dints it lol sorry

Thanks for bringing up sun armor and harshness, i will definitely use those smile

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