And which marauders win? Zil are a joke, Pirate are good, but far away from op, eclipse are a joke, nehants are a good but also far away from op.
The only marauders who have a chance to reach the top are witchblade, and i really doubt that they will win the amnezy when the legendary chars aren't banned

So tell me - why should they change the name of the game to marauders win since they aren't stronger than other classes?

I really like the changes, all look pretty good. Feerik finally used their brains. thumbs up
The only thing i miss is a slight nebsen/admiral nerf, but feerik did a good job there

Dernière modification par TheRainMan (10-01-2013 19:14:56)

wrmonger · 10-01-2013 19:43:06

this has totally ruined my comp deck, all i can play now is lb3 once and crystal storm.

the last 2 weeks i bought three entropy to make a nehant deck.

now its all well and good letting me sell the cards nerfed back for the average market price but what about the stuff i bought to go with them? i sold a lot of stuff to make this nehant deck. i bought mastery to go with both the comp and the nehants. im not going to get those crystals back am i? not to mention the crystals lost in tax trying to raise the funds, i sold an admiral powder deck. then theres the chars, comp will drop in price so will blanche im losing out there too.

mini rant over.

Dernière modification par wrmonger (10-01-2013 19:43:30)

al_vh1n · 10-01-2013 20:05:15

I wish this will be the last time we have this kind of nerf. I mean I hope in the future releases Feerik will test longer and thoroughly the cards before releasing it to the public. As the saying goes "prevention is better than cure". And allowing this nerfing just makes Feerik lazy to playtest cards because they will just say "nah, we don't have to test them we'll just nerf them if things go out of hand" w/c I think is a very bad mentality.

Iirc this is their 3rd time to nerfed cards and it seems they haven't learned their lesson from previous mistakes and still keep on making op cards. And there seems to be a pattern here:

1st card modification:
*Dec. 19, 2011 - nerfed Sol'ra Avatar, Living Nature, etc.
*after two card updates they've released Ecstacy

2nd card modification:
*June 20, 2012 - nerfed Ecstacy, Wild buds, etc.
*a week later they've released Kan-del, Compendium secret

3rd modification:
*January 16, 2013 - nerfed Kan-del, Compendium secret, etc.
*I will not be surprised if in the next updates a new batch of op cards will be released that will take months before it will get nerfed.

This practice needs to stop. Don't get me wrong I support rebalancing of op cards but what I don't agree w/ is they do it months after releasing these cards, and after they milked every cent out from these op cards. Why do they have to wait 7 months before nerfing Kan-del and Compendium secret when in just weeks we can already feel and see their brokenness.

Not to mention Feerik buying cards from players are bad in the game. When Feerik buys card from a player, they are adding unnecessary crystals into the game w/c results in an excessive amount of in-game crystals as opposed to when players buy cards w/ each other where crystals are just being transferred. Not to mention the cards will be deleted in the game w/c will make these cards fewer in circulation and since getting older cards from boosters are harder (particularly the rares) it may result for some of them to be overpriced.

Again to be clear I like this kind of rebalancing and changes, but what I don't like is the way they implement it.

karnoki · 10-01-2013 20:14:16

all cards which are going to be changed are my expectation. Especially, Ourebis and eltarite's heritage, I accept this change..

Umm.. still not clear .. "old ourenos lv3" can be sold to the system, or it can be upgraded to "new ourenos lv3" .. Am I true??

Damncaster · 10-01-2013 20:22:24

Finally Compendium where nerfed

DrazeA · 10-01-2013 21:02:15

For those who don't see the difference in ourenos, the old one deals a physical attack when one of YOUR CHARACTERS dies, while new one deals a physical attack when one of YOUR SAP HEARTS dies. which isn't really much of a nerf since I see Ourenos in pure sap hearts decks anyways.

Comp Secret didn't get nerfed too badly since you can now play a spell from your hand making it a card that lets you play and extra spell in a turn and from hand can be AoE unless they forgot to add that part.

Lost scroll: err.....what's changed here?

General fray. The new text: DURATION 2 TURNS. Defense +2. Your allies from "The Pack" have Attack +1. DURATION: 3 TURNS. If your opponent is not a Warrior, his next card is ignored. Chain if your characters have less than 30 health points in all.
^need to fix this so we know how long it's supposed to last^

Put-Up: it's about time they nerfed this, and the old one gave def +3 to all your charaters, while new one gives it to all priests.

Entropy: needed nerf too, though this might be a bit harsh

T&F: was getting tired of this card

Santuros · 10-01-2013 21:07:11

i was waiting for tar and feathers nerf... thanks feerik

kilcosu · 10-01-2013 21:08:43

wow... I probably couldn't have sold compendium at a better time (like a week ago) now there price is going to drop significantly and I won't be affected by it like last time .. because I mean they royally F***ED [card]compendium secret[/card] lol. fine by me

seems like [card]general fray[/card] actually stayed the same... most people who use [card]general fray[/card] will use it when there is only one character alive anyway

DrazeA a écrit :

Comp Secret didn't get nerfed too badly since you can now play a spell from your hand making it a card that lets you play and extra spell in a turn and from hand can be AoE unless they forgot to add that part.

well actually according to the new text you don't have a choice as to what card is played by compendium secret. ([card]nehantic receptacle[/card]s problem) and since the entire play style of compendium is AoE... and all other offensive Compendium cards are actions as to not interfere with [card]Crystal storm[/card]... you need some really good luck to make [card]compendium secret[/card] good since you can't pull AoE spells from the graveyard anymore

Dernière modification par kilcosu (10-01-2013 21:19:06)

karnoki · 10-01-2013 21:17:01

DrazeA a écrit :

For those who don't see the difference in ourenos, the old one deals a physical attack when one of YOUR CHARACTERS dies, while new one deals a physical attack when one of YOUR SAP HEARTS dies. which isn't really much of a nerf since I see Ourenos in pure sap hearts decks anyways.
Comp Secret didn't get nerfed too badly since you can now play a spell from your hand making it a card that lets you play and extra spell in a turn and from hand can be AoE unless they forgot to add that part.
Lost scroll: err.....what's changed here?
General fray. The new text: DURATION 2 TURNS. Defense +2. Your allies from "The Pack" have Attack +1. DURATION: 3 TURNS. If your opponent is not a Warrior, his next card is ignored. Chain if your characters have less than 30 health points in all.
^need to fix this so we know how long it's supposed to last^
Put-Up: it's about time they nerfed this, and the old one gave def +3 to all your charaters, while new one gives it to all priests.
Entropy: needed nerf too, though this might be a bit harsh
T&F: was getting tired of this card

ourebis have less attack than ourenos why u don't see??

ColdAvril · 10-01-2013 21:39:11

And also ourebi now chains on two-handed weapons...no more [card]corrupted[/card] into eltarite or into life eater ([card]mangevie[/card]) bs...

Ellias · 10-01-2013 21:44:30

DrazeA a écrit :

Lost scroll: err.....what's changed here?

It used to be that you chose a character to remove counters from. now it's just the character playing it. I think that's fair. gives you less of a chance to play for the max value. Less OP for sure.

mrmutantlarry · 10-01-2013 22:58:06

The idea of Chars, usually Marauders, coming in with such high attack values is one of the biggest problems of the game, you have no time to build up. There no time to place weapons or armor or setting your spells when Its just hack hack hack game over. We keep loosing the strat of the game in the rush to have char coming in fully-powered off the bat.

TheRainMan a écrit :

mrmutantlarry a écrit :
They have to nerf Comp secret when mages are getting screwed buy character who some out with ungodly attack stats? Why not just change the name of the game to 'Marauders win'. I swear they hate mages.
Lol
Compendium Secret was totally broken
And which marauders win? Zil are a joke, Pirate are good, but far away from op, eclipse are a joke, nehants are a good but also far away from op.
The only marauders who have a chance to reach the top are witchblade, and i really doubt that they will win the amnezy when the legendary chars aren't banned
So tell me - why should they change the name of the game to marauders win since they aren't stronger than other classes?
I really like the changes, all look pretty good. Feerik finally used their brains. thumbs up
The only thing i miss is a slight nebsen/admiral nerf, but feerik did a good job there

jackal19 · 11-01-2013 03:27:16

totally agree that compendium secret is broken it ended games in three turns and even a well prepared mau deck dies from it totally deserved to be thrown to the nerf table

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