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Nope.
Dernière modification par Ryken (28-02-2012 19:35:28)
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how can i defeat this? only way i m seeing atm is to kill 2 chars if possible and then freeze the last... or get lucky with 'lay bare'... maybe tsume could be of any use but icars arms ability will make u lose by points... besides what happens if u dont run a mage deck?! any ideas?
i already hate sarah.... i really wonder why she is common while the vizier is rare...
Dernière modification par Calandra (28-02-2012 01:37:10)
Wash the spears... while the sun climbs high.
Wash the spears... while the sun climbs low.
Wash the spears... who fears to die?
Wash the spears... no one I know!
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Mages MURDER this deck. But with the addition of Narwhal it becomes POSSIBLE to survive since you're sniping their out of combat character while using Put The World to Rights every turn.
Discard is also a problem, but that's ALWAYS a problem for any deck, I think.
Freeze hurts, yeah, but with this deck there's always a chance to recover. Chance of winning goes down heavily though.
Any of the cards that discard the items like Breaker and Fortune and Glory also hurt.
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Narwhal is a marauder card but SARAH can equip it?
Can Ica and the Meister use it?
Pirates and Temple Guardian.
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Golem: You can attach any item card without Guild Restriction to Golems (i.e. you can put an items from another guild in their decks). The golem then takes the bonus corresponding to its class, its guild, or it’s caste is applicable or any default bonus if none of the above matches.
Sarah is a warrior...she(?) shouldn't be able to..I think? Golems only ignore guild restrictions, according to our badly-translated rulebook.
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I suppose Sentence and Extinction will work there way into the toolbox list if these decks get too popular
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Golem: You can attach any item card without Guild Restriction to Golems (i.e. you can put an items from another guild in their decks). The golem then takes the bonus corresponding to its class, its guild, or it’s caste is applicable or any default bonus if none of the above matches.
Sarah is a warrior...she(?) shouldn't be able to..I think? Golems only ignore guild restrictions, according to our badly-translated rulebook.
Guild restriction and class in this case right?
Pirates and Temple Guardian.
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Ica and Sarah can both use it.
Trust me. I've been killing fools with it for awhile now.
Also just broke 1700 ELO. First time. I'm pretty happy with how it's running so far.
Also, a well times Sentence really hurts.
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-Yes! Golems can equip anything as long as they keep the golem trait.
-Gonna try that deck after this guild battle... pretty solid combination i don't know if it will survive against nehants but ill gonna find out soon.
-So wheres rock lee? you really made a career on that name you got.
Dernière modification par Cossette (28-02-2012 07:22:19)
Breathless
Great things comes in small packages... A booster perhaps?
http://xat.com/englisheredan
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Actually, they can equip anything even after becoming human from effects. It's a known bug and no one is quite sure how deep the bug goes. It may just be that they aren't even meant to use things not from their class, but the bug has been out so long that its just accepted. Rulebook doesn't make it clear =/
Dernière modification par Leorio (28-02-2012 03:01:46)
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Yes! i see that bug as an acceptable one... hope they wont change that anytime soon
Dernière modification par Cossette (28-02-2012 03:05:24)
Breathless
Great things comes in small packages... A booster perhaps?
http://xat.com/englisheredan
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Yes! i see that bug as an acceptable one... hope they wont change that anytime soon
Yep pirates have the most golems!
Pirates and Temple Guardian.
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Saw the deck. Looks like a very Toolbox version while mines a more Aggro/Snipe. How does yours work out?
So wheres rock lee? you really made a career on that name you got.
I changed it to a donkey. See my flashy new title? That was someones sad attempt to feel like a man. So I figured id embrace it. Go me. If and when its ever changed to something regular ill go back to Rock Lee. But for now, my avatar is a stupid donkey.
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Very interesting deck - I just hope they lower the price of Ica's arm - so I can get 2 more - I would love to try it out soon. Between have u tried to add [card]Nehantic Stone[/card] it is, Im currently using something like this and it does help vs mages.
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Very interesting deck - I just hope they lower the price of Ica's arm - so I can get 2 more - I would love to try it out soon. Between have u tried to add [card]Nehantic Stone[/card] it is, Im currently using something like this and it does help vs mages.
I did when I used the Cookiecutter Craftsman/Foamy version. But with this version I don't use it. That, and I sold it. I just don't think it'd be as useful. Also, it doesn't protect you from Freeze.
At least it didn't for me. It was one of those situations where it was my turn and I equipped it. My opponent played Freeze and all my stuff went poof. But with little defense against spells of any sort I understand it could be useful. But so far I've had great success in sniping out of combat mages and staying alive with Put the World to Rights.
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Grimangel a écrit :Very interesting deck - I just hope they lower the price of Ica's arm - so I can get 2 more - I would love to try it out soon. Between have u tried to add [card]Nehantic Stone[/card] it is, Im currently using something like this and it does help vs mages.
I did when I used the Cookiecutter Craftsman/Foamy version. But with this version I don't use it. That, and I sold it.
I just don't think it'd be as useful. Also, it doesn't protect you from Freeze.
At least it didn't for me. It was one of those situations where it was my turn and I equipped it. My opponent played Freeze and all my stuff went poof. But with little defense against spells of any sort I understand it could be useful. But so far I've had great success in sniping out of combat mages and staying alive with Put the World to Rights.
I didn't know it doesn't protect u from Freeze - Ive been using it lately and I also see that there are a lot of issues with the efficiency of Nehantic Stone - there should look into this.
Lets hope the economy on the market will go down a little so we can start affording those Ica's arms.
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nehantic stone is not supposed to protect ure items... its just protecting your character... besides protecting items from freeze or lay bare would be a step towards overpoweredness
honestly its already hard to beat the pirate golems with galene giving them 4 hp and 1 spirit permanently... if you dont happen to run a mage deck or have 'a' mage in deck and also happen to have a freeze... well... what can you do? tons of arms attached to one golem... if you disable him the whole stuff goes to the 2nd golem...
a craftsman who always chains the stuff and has a semi-priest ability while one of your golems can now make a mess out of discard users and also create infinite arms that simply switch to another char once its bearer dies... erm... please... really we dont need another protection against the few cards that help keeping this monster of a deck in its cave
Wash the spears... while the sun climbs high.
Wash the spears... while the sun climbs low.
Wash the spears... who fears to die?
Wash the spears... no one I know!
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Eh, it's actually been a pain to run. Capped out at 1780 ELO, but it seems that everyone's running massive Item-Hate thanks to this deck. Clumsiness, Fortune and Glory, Breaker, Extortion, Freeze...the list goes on. And I'm not talking about splashing for control; I'm seeing them maxed out.
A deck that's not prepared to face this deck or any version like it is going to get smashed by it. A deck that is will do okay, and MAY tip the match in their favor. But the amount of hate I've been seeing in ELO (with the same jank as always; Multi-Attacking Sap, Discard, Nomad, Zil Whatever) is laughable.
Personally I'm glad. Means the deck is a threat and the only way people seem to compensate is to put in all the hate they can.
Dernière modification par Ryken (28-02-2012 18:44:05)
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its a downfall for posting a deck like that on forums. You think you are gonna get feedback then BAM! PLayers use the info against you and prep for a wave of mechanist golem decks
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Metagame rule #1
Don't give away your planned deck unless you're prepared to see that deck used 90% of the time, with the other 10% being a counter to that deck.
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Metagame rule #1
Don't give away your planned deck unless you're prepared to see that deck used 90% of the time, with the other 10% being a counter to that deck.
eventually this will happen, since this game does not release a bunch of cards at the same time everyone can relate them and make similar decks, even more when the new cards implement a new play style. Plus someone will see your deck at some point and will share it or this will lead to copy, if its good of course
Dernière modification par Santuros (28-02-2012 20:26:14)
I wish I could show you when you are lonely or in darkness the astonishing light of your own being. (Hafez)
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Nope.
400+ views, sorry but the secret's out *wink*
Never lost a fair game... or played one.
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Nice deck ideas tho, was facing u earlier in ELO and I gotta say this deck is scarry and makes me want to make and try it ^^
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Nice deck ideas tho, was facing u earlier in ELO and I gotta say this deck is scarry and makes me want to make and try it ^^
Don't bother. The "upper" tiers of ELO just runs so many counters for this one deck it's quite sick. Plus, it's the SAME DECKS over and over. There are, quite literally, no variation. Other decks need some serious buffs cause it gets boring as hell beating on the same fools over and over.
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