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#1 17-11-2011 10:36:46

karotte007
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iTCG: Scragh’s Return

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This night, Thunder King’s sleep was troubled. In his dream, he saw himself with his armor in a distant time. The sky was full of stormy clouds with a red glint. In front of him, something flashes!... Lots of lightning bolts formed bars blocking the entrance of a cave.

- This time you won’t stop me, cheap junk king!, yelled the captive creature in its lightning prison.

He woke up sweating, jumped out of his camp bed and left the tent to take a deep breath. In the sky the moon was high, it was the middle of the night. He had a feeling that something bad was going to happen. The monster his old friends and himself had locked away was going to free itself... maybe it was already too late!

A long time ago, the Thunder King and a coalition of the guilds confronted Scragh, a monstrous and powerful being. Our hero is going to need help, YOUR help!


How to participate?

You’ll find a map on the background. You’ll have to choose one of the available missions and begin a loop. You’ll go from mission to mission clockwise. The access to this event is free and until wednesday september 23, 2011 at noon (french hour)!

Earn reputation...

In order to help the Thunder King, earn reputation with the eight factions of the game (Noz, Kotoba, Zil Warriors, Sap Heart, Pirates, Desert Nomads, Nehantists and Mercenaries). Once you have earned enough reputation and finished a mission, you can continue down the road on the map.

... and defeat Scragh!

Once the eight reputation missions are completed, you’ll have access to the last part of the map and will be able to defeat Scragh in an ultimate fight! Defeat him and receive the mythic character card of Scragh!

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Recommendation Letter

Do you want to progress faster? Is Scragh too difficult to beat?

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You’ll find Recommendation Letters in booster packs. Each Recommendation Letter can be used on the event card and:
- Earn 200 reputation points for the current mission,
- Impress Scragh in proving him that the Thunder King is a marvellous person!

Booster New Arrivals, Act I, II, III, IV+V = 6 Recommendation Letters.
Booster Basic = 2 Recommendation Letters.

Have fun!

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#2 17-11-2011 11:17:09

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

Wouldn't be better if the quest description would be: buy 7 boosters and try to manage to get 400 points in 6 days?


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#3 17-11-2011 11:17:09

magius
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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

Why is Scragh's description is different in the English forum compared to the French forum? Has this card changed?


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#4 17-11-2011 11:27:18

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

This is without a doubt the biggest scam event you've put together yet Feerik, kudos for money-grubbing proficiency, you've outdone yourselves.


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#5 17-11-2011 11:28:00

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

for the sap hearts one you get 1 point if:
1. if you use a card that boost your characters defense
2. if you use a card that lowers the opponents defense
20 max points per battle.

that would take 50 battles if you get 20 points per battle. but you wont.
and thats just 1 of 9 battles done before you cna go to scragh.
im skipping on this one. =P


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#6 17-11-2011 11:34:18

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

magius a écrit :

Why is Scragh's description is different in the English forum compared to the French forum? Has this card changed?

What exactly do you mean?

BigPoppaE a écrit :

This is without a doubt the biggest scam event you've put together yet Feerik, kudos for money-grubbing proficiency, you've outdone yourselves.

You can do this event purely for free. I do not see how they are money-grubbing scammers. You can finish the event without purchasing even one booster pack.

Before you start pointing fingers, actually put some thought into what you say.


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#7 17-11-2011 11:45:34

TPPK
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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

bleachman a écrit :
BigPoppaE a écrit :

This is without a doubt the biggest scam event you've put together yet Feerik, kudos for money-grubbing proficiency, you've outdone yourselves.

You can do this event purely for free. I do not see how they are money-grubbing scammers. You can finish the event without purchasing even one booster pack.

Before you start pointing fingers, actually put some thought into what you say.

Suppose you have superb decks for this quest, lets take an average of 10 minutes for each game, and an average of 10 points for each game.

then you need 9000 minutes. 9000 minutes being 6 days and a quarter if you play non-stop

Conclusion: No you can't get this card without spending money.


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#8 17-11-2011 11:48:09

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

Haven't seen the requisitions for the tourney yet, but if the examples about the quests  posted here are true, than you can't say it's for free, if TPPK calculation is correct I wont even bother in this one..


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#9 17-11-2011 11:51:36

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

TPPK a écrit :
bleachman a écrit :
BigPoppaE a écrit :

This is without a doubt the biggest scam event you've put together yet Feerik, kudos for money-grubbing proficiency, you've outdone yourselves.

You can do this event purely for free. I do not see how they are money-grubbing scammers. You can finish the event without purchasing even one booster pack.

Before you start pointing fingers, actually put some thought into what you say.

Suppose you have superb decks for this quest, lets take an average of 10 minutes for each game, and an average of 10 points for each game.

then you need 9000 minutes. 9000 minutes being 6 days and a quarter if you play non-stop

Conclusion: No you can't get this card without spending money.

I do not get how you have an average of 10 points per game. All you need to do is play 10 cards, action cards, theurgies, spells, etc... Everybody should have the minimal funds to be able to buy cheap cards of those types to play for this event.
The only difficult part would be more specific ones, being for instance the Sap Hearts. But even then it is not that bad.


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#10 17-11-2011 11:55:52

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

Alright then, lets take 20 points for each 10 minutes that is still 3 days non-stop (do you think there is anyone willing to sacrifice 12 hours a day on playing Eredan?)

20 points doesn't makes it any more possible.




If you want to play it fair then lets play it fair.

Ask Feerik to keep track if anyone has completed the quest without buying boosters (shouldn't be too hard).
If there is somebody ten you won but we both know it is simply impossible.

Heck I'd even sponsor the 25€ needed in order to get this card myself as a prize to the first person that managed to do it. In the state the current quest is in we both know I have a good reason to be this confident I will win.

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#11 17-11-2011 11:58:42

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

Oh well, I'll take a look at it, but doing it would mean give up the Elo this week, and I loved this week bans set up. It's doing really well for my Immortals..


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#12 17-11-2011 11:59:11

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

bleachman a écrit :
magius a écrit :

Why is Scragh's description is different in the English forum compared to the French forum? Has this card changed?

What exactly do you mean?

BigPoppaE a écrit :

This is without a doubt the biggest scam event you've put together yet Feerik, kudos for money-grubbing proficiency, you've outdone yourselves.

You can do this event purely for free. I do not see how they are money-grubbing scammers. You can finish the event without purchasing even one booster pack.

Before you start pointing fingers, actually put some thought into what you say.

Why is it a money grubbing scam you say? I'm glad you asked friend. Well if you consider that you need to accumulate 9,000 points to accomplish this incredible feat with a maximum of 20 points per game we come to 450 games. If you consider that most games take say 6 minutes to play through that is 2,700 minutes or 45 hours. Considering the impossible nature of accumulating 20 points in every match because some of the requirements are absurd, lets say its an even 3,000 minutes, or 60 hours. Being that you have 7 days to complete this, you need to average 7.5 hours of playing Eredan for the next week just to reach the boss.

Being that this is basically impossible for anyone to achieve without suffering significant brain damage (here's the kicker!) the only way to actually win this is to buy feez with real money. Even worse, because you need to do each of these advancements with an entire guild-based deck, you need to own significant cards of each group to even participate, thus prompting people to need to buy feez to even attempt the "free" participation.

Listen man, it's nothing personal, I get that you're a company, and companies thrive on stupid people who don't see that they're getting ripped off. But seriously, this is the most thinly veiled scam I've seen in a while. If you want people to use your product make it appealing.

PS. Owned.


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#13 17-11-2011 12:08:58

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

bleachman a écrit :
magius a écrit :

Why is Scragh's description is different in the English forum compared to the French forum? Has this card changed?

What exactly do you mean?

together

If you look at the card image, I don't think the order bonus is matching between both the French card and the English card. I'm not even sure if the abilities match?


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#14 17-11-2011 12:11:36

TPPK
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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

magius a écrit :
bleachman a écrit :
magius a écrit :

Why is Scragh's description is different in the English forum compared to the French forum? Has this card changed?

What exactly do you mean?

together

If you look at the card image, I don't think the order bonus is matching between both the French card and the English card. I'm not even sure if the abilities match?

French translated is:
Gain chain if you play an armor.
-X damage suffered where X is 6 minus the number of turns.







Bleachman we know you are just volunteering to be a moderator. We don't need you to not enjoy yourself by spending efforts to protect the game or game owners; What are we going to do? Leave because of a quest that is impossible without spending money for it?
We just have our grieves over some actions of this staff.

We simply ask to be treated with respect: Being either a quadrupling of the duration of this quest or an official statement that it is impossible without spending money for it. (even hiring a bunch of game-addicts to play 24/7 for you costs a small amount of money)

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#15 17-11-2011 12:12:20

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

Repared !


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#16 17-11-2011 12:30:17

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

If a player mistakenly clicked a guild on the map to start the quest but actually wanted to start with a different guild, is there something Feerik can do about this?


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#17 17-11-2011 13:21:44

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

TPPK a écrit :

Ask Feerik to keep track if anyone has completed the quest without buying boosters (shouldn't be too hard).
If there is somebody ten you won but we both know it is simply impossible.

Heck I'd even sponsor the 25€ needed in order to get this card myself as a prize to the first person that managed to do it. In the state the current quest is in we both know I have a good reason to be this confident I will win.

I do not want to sound condescending, but this statement of yours is proof you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I would take you on your bet, any day and max the numbers to 100 people.
You seem to neglect that a large portion of the free playing community are actually unemployed people who sit at home all day and play for hours to no end. I know this because a lot of my good Eredan iTCG friends are/were in that situation. They would grind and play for 10+ hours a day.

Do not suggest bets you will lose.

BigPoppaE a écrit :
bleachman a écrit :
magius a écrit :

Why is Scragh's description is different in the English forum compared to the French forum? Has this card changed?

What exactly do you mean?

BigPoppaE a écrit :

This is without a doubt the biggest scam event you've put together yet Feerik, kudos for money-grubbing proficiency, you've outdone yourselves.

You can do this event purely for free. I do not see how they are money-grubbing scammers. You can finish the event without purchasing even one booster pack.

Before you start pointing fingers, actually put some thought into what you say.

Why is it a money grubbing scam you say? I'm glad you asked friend. Well if you consider that you need to accumulate 9,000 points to accomplish this incredible feat with a maximum of 20 points per game we come to 450 games. If you consider that most games take say 6 minutes to play through that is 2,700 minutes or 45 hours. Considering the impossible nature of accumulating 20 points in every match because some of the requirements are absurd, lets say its an even 3,000 minutes, or 60 hours. Being that you have 7 days to complete this, you need to average 7.5 hours of playing Eredan for the next week just to reach the boss.

Being that this is basically impossible for anyone to achieve without suffering significant brain damage (here's the kicker!) the only way to actually win this is to buy feez with real money. Even worse, because you need to do each of these advancements with an entire guild-based deck, you need to own significant cards of each group to even participate, thus prompting people to need to buy feez to even attempt the "free" participation.

Listen man, it's nothing personal, I get that you're a company, and companies thrive on stupid people who don't see that they're getting ripped off. But seriously, this is the most thinly veiled scam I've seen in a while. If you want people to use your product make it appealing.

PS. Owned.

Read my above mentioned statement and then reconsider your all-proving calculations and numbers you presume to prove your case with.

I do agree with you, it is a short period of time for this event. But it is not impossible. Considering that long term F2P players could have amassed a good amount of cards to technically participate in this event, proves that it is also catered to those who are willing to spend the time to finish the quest. If you, as a free player, decide this is not suitable, all I can really say is 'Beggars cannot be choosers'.

Feerik is a company, first and foremost. It is no secret that they are indeed out to get your money. That is how they employ people and how they pay their bills and cover their costs of running a business. A business, that offers a game for free, when it is not needed to be for free. Sure, you cannot get top notch content for free, but you sure as hell get a lot more in this game as from other games.

I do not set up my line of defense on these topics to protect Feerik as a company. Quite frankly, I regard their prices and marketing tactics very poorly. I am, however, annoyed by greedy and selfish players, who are too ignorant to regard the whole of the issue. People who complain and nag about events like these, that are proven to be possible, even as a free player.

Instead of players offering a productive feedback to elaborate how it is, possibly, unsuitable for themselves as a free player (in some cases even as a paying consumer), they rertort to snide remarks and petty insults to vent their, often unfound, anger. If people really want their voice to be heard, you can relay your opinion and voice in a productive manner and one that will not deflect on closed ears. Nobody listens to a non-paying consumer who bitches at them at the top of their lungs.

Solid advice as one consumer, who relays an opinion on a product he consumes, to another: Instead of complaining about what you get (ridiculous when it is even for free), try suggesting productive things the company could do. It is always regarded more than petty complaints and you wont have a dick like me tearing your 'owning' posts apart.

P.S. I do not work for Feerik. I am just another player, like anybody else.

Lyquid a écrit :

If a player mistakenly clicked a guild on the map to start the quest but actually wanted to start with a different guild, is there something Feerik can do about this?

I doubt it. Understandable though, considering there could be thousands of cases like this. It would surely take a lot of time to fix all those accounts with missclicked runs.

I can only suggest to try to rush through it as fast as possible. If you are a spender and planned to spend Feez this weekend, you can surely use some of the Recommendation Letters from the packs to help speed you through the missclick.


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#18 17-11-2011 13:40:05

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

For free player - unlike other events, in this one you have a (small) chance to finish without feez. This is certainly better then 0 chance to finish the event without feez

For paying players this system is great because you can find your own balance between how much you play and how much you pay. If I am in a good mood to play Eredan this week I can probably finish the event with 2 booster packs and if not I will probably have to get 3-4 booster packs like in most events.

Despite this concept that I fing great there are some petty decisions like not being able to use the stock of premium/guild boosters for the event. I seriously doubt the gains of this decision will compensate the sheer annoyance that it produces to the paying players who still have stocks.

Also same of the guild missions could have been much smarter. For example pirates set themselves apart by killing out of combat characters (marauders, flames, powder kegs+rocketeer) not by playing action cards.

EDIT: After playing some games for the Kotoba challenge I realized that everything would have been much more fun and would have felt less like grinding if all the missions were unlocked from the beginning.

Dernière modification par Gent M (17-11-2011 16:06:04)


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#19 17-11-2011 14:09:08

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

I found Zahal's bunny ^^''

It's on Scragh lvl 1's hip.


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#20 17-11-2011 15:27:23

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

Please extend. Even if just for a couple more days.  Then you could do one guild a day and that's still a huge grind


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#21 17-11-2011 15:42:03

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

Great an event where asses are promoted to bring their douchebag selfs and tier 1 decks to the level rooms.


Dragon Knights ftw big_smile


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#22 17-11-2011 16:01:51

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

ok explain the packs please..

do i need to buy one of each booster? or can i buy like 7 act 4&5 booster?


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#23 17-11-2011 16:04:26

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

Caitlyn a écrit :

ok explain the packs please..

do i need to buy one of each booster? or can i buy like 7 act 4&5 booster?

You can buy any of the ones listed in any amount.


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#24 17-11-2011 16:08:22

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

thanks.

note to self, buy packs on thursdays not wednesdays for the events.. big_smile


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#25 17-11-2011 16:24:58

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Re : iTCG: Scragh’s Return

I might just be stupid and be missing it, but how does one get the shield?


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