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#1 10-11-2011 02:56:48

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New Nehantist Cards Strategy

Demons Rage:

This card seems interesting to me. Combined with Chalice, especially if you go first, is incredibly strong.

The problem with chalice decks right now is the Avatar. If you don't go first he dies to the passive. That's not a good thing for such a dominant deck right now. If Avatar didn't exist or was banned, it would be a viable strategy.

Demonic Explosion:

Probally the strongest buff card in the game. It's almost always going to be atleast 3 attack and 3 direct damage. And it just gets better from there. It's borderline to good.

And If that wasn't good enough, It chains into...

The Price of Flesh

+1 attack +1 def. That is ok, but adding another 3 Direct damage on top of that? Yeah. Turn one kills are a viable strategy for Nehantists now.

Demonic Blade

Seem's lackluster. It's a short sword with a very situational stipulation to be +5. It does have some potential in that it can be activated immidiently by other cards. This card really needed the Craftsman tag imho.

One Hit One Dead

I look at this card like a weaker Assassination. If they drop any defense/heal you essentially get nothing out of it, It doesn't naturally chain, etc. Not impressed.

Azaram

Not sure. Don't have access to his evolutions. Anyone?


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#2 10-11-2011 03:45:09

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Re : New Nehantist Cards Strategy

how is the last card a weaker assassination... assassination can only sometimes do +3..... that extra 1 is alot in this game


add that with time to die you may only get a +6 comapred to a  +8/+10

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#3 10-11-2011 03:59:00

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Re : New Nehantist Cards Strategy

i have a feeling your going see a lot of ripper in the next few days


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#4 10-11-2011 04:56:37

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Re : New Nehantist Cards Strategy

Eekarri a écrit :

i have a feeling your going see a lot of ripper in the next few days

Maybe.  I myself wouldn't want to shell out more crystals than is wise to spend on a concept deck.


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#5 10-11-2011 05:27:09

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Re : New Nehantist Cards Strategy

deck idea:

Ripper
Aradrakar
The fallen

3 Demon clouds
3 The price of flesh
3 Demonic Explosion
3 Dark furry
2 Dark ritual
2 Black chimera/Demonic-Blade
2 Demon's Rage
1 ...
1 ...

possibly to put in 2 eliminehantations or perversions instead of the weapons or change the fallen for soul for the extra chain. demonic affliction is another idea to get the extra +2/3 and chaind with darkfurry is an additinal +2 or  The price of flesh for a +3

nehantist are becoming very synergistic just have to look at the potability's that they have

Dernière modification par Eekarri (10-11-2011 06:06:59)


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#6 10-11-2011 06:01:22

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Re : New Nehantist Cards Strategy

Haku-Men a écrit :

how is the last card a weaker assassination... assassination can only sometimes do +3..... that extra 1 is alot in this game


add that with time to die you may only get a +6 comapred to a  +8/+10

Believe I went over this.

If you do not kill the character, you are only effectively doing 2-3 damage with the skill. Any type of debuff, heal, def buff, etc, will make this card a weaker assassinate that cannot chain.

@Ripper: After some playtesting, Id suggest you all pick up rippers, stonechewers, and your choice of a third. Stonechewer kills anything in the game on turns 2 or 3. Even Avatar.


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#7 10-11-2011 06:33:18

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Re : New Nehantist Cards Strategy

xPrTx a écrit :
Haku-Men a écrit :

how is the last card a weaker assassination... assassination can only sometimes do +3..... that extra 1 is alot in this game


add that with time to die you may only get a +6 comapred to a  +8/+10

Believe I went over this.

If you do not kill the character, you are only effectively doing 2-3 damage with the skill. Any type of debuff, heal, def buff, etc, will make this card a weaker assassinate that cannot chain.

@Ripper: After some playtesting, Id suggest you all pick up rippers, stonechewers, and your choice of a third. Stonechewer kills anything in the game on turns 2 or 3. Even Avatar.

I'm not pretty sure,
I have the final version of the character, perform some test with new cards, Marauder and warrior both.

Is true that there are lot of interesting combos, specially demonic explosion is really powerfull but it's setup setups and lot of things. The marauder card is nice to finish wounded enemies or kill it with time to die but I'm not sure at all...

Is true that if you equip a demonic servant in the first turn Soulchewer can kill every unit in his path. I really like that Azaram increase his bonus of defense in final version for every weapon equipped making this unit really impressive in melee combat. 

I prefere Azaram in marauder deck, when you reach dual weapon is really nice.

Im for now testing a version of marauder deck:
3x Six feet under, 3x dark fury, 2x Dagger of suff, 2x Nehant splinter, 3x Assasination, 2x One hit-One death, Time to die, ... other 4 cards.

Impressive but not sure if competitive in current meta.

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Dernière modification par RyogaLX (10-11-2011 09:27:09)


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#8 10-11-2011 20:44:26

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Re : New Nehantist Cards Strategy

at first I thought demonic-blade would be great with +5 attack since I play with chalice all the time. in theory it gives more of an offensive boost than black chimera however you need to 1) have chalice reborn, inferno, deathblade in play and 2) get it to activate imediatly which takes up card space.

  I love demonic explosion to the price of flesh for all the reasons stated. I don't feel that most of these cards help Azaram with the exception of one hit, one dead.

  I see him used in a nehant marauder beat down with shadow and Ana(demon) using splinters, black chimeras, dark furies, ohod, and assassinate.


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#9 11-11-2011 06:42:38

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Re : New Nehantist Cards Strategy

I really enjoy how the new character works smile

Nehant's Black hand (Beta-testing deck ELO)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbbgcj2KH9k


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#10 14-11-2011 01:13:49

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Re : New Nehantist Cards Strategy

RyogaLX a écrit :

I really enjoy how the new character works smile

Nehant's Black hand (Beta-testing deck ELO)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbbgcj2KH9k


THANK GOODNESS
I thought I was the only one that leveled that bastard

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3 blades =_=
At least he can wield a chimera and Demonic blade at the same time :3

Ardrakar Azaram Ripper= Abuse with explosion

Chalice, Azaram, Ardrakar= Eliminehantation, Demonic Affliction + The Price of Flesh.

Considering most decks have high HP, and the demon warriors have average hp, Affliction actually hurts pretty bad, and yes, it does inflict damage to them if you have equal health.

Ardrakar has her own specific combo with Chimera+ Price of flesh.


Side note: Breaking the First chain is great when using Ardrakar, especially if she has a Demonic cloud active.

Don't bother using Dark Ritual and Demonic Explosion in the same deck, you'll only gimp yourself.

Edit:
RyogaLX: Ever try swapping the Six Feet under for Demonic cloud, just so you can use Dark Ritual as a backup?
AND another spirit doesn't hurt, unless its discard, but,milisforlazypeople

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#11 14-11-2011 02:25:33

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Re : New Nehantist Cards Strategy

Anihilate a écrit :

THANK GOODNESS
I thought I was the only one that leveled that bastard

http://static.eredan.com/cards/web_big/us/CB3dEySc.png
Edit:
RyogaLX: Ever try swapping the Six Feet under for Demonic cloud, just so you can use Dark Ritual as a backup?
AND another spirit doesn't hurt, unless its discard, but,milisforlazypeople

Hahaha I don't sleep about 2 days after his release to reach last level.

Yes, I'm testing good build for it, six feet under is nice enough to have 2 in a deck, I'm still testing looking for good build.

About Azaram. I admit...... I underestimate it  is the second more defensive unit in nehant guild after ripper only if you use a weapon, specially with ardrakar and suffering daggers. He love that daggers +2 attack and +3 defense is really cool.

I think that Azaram has three places among nehant guild, Marauder, Heavy armored guys (Ripper, Ardrakar, Azaram), and agro-decks (Chalice, azaram and ardrakar).

I'll test now with 3x demonic clouds, 3x explosions, 3x dark fury and assasinations plus daggers. Looks good ofensive offensive for me but I don't know if add flesh combo in this deck. Takes a lot of space and remember that is only for demons.

Maybe Ardrakar, Anagram and Azaram? only demon marauder deck? or hate?
I'll see smile


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#12 14-11-2011 02:45:15

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Re : New Nehantist Cards Strategy

If you use [card]Demonic Affliction[/card] and [card]Black Chimera[/card], you can use [card]The Price of Flesh[/card] out of context, so you can mix and match what you're doing.


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#13 14-11-2011 03:28:15

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Re : New Nehantist Cards Strategy

Anihilate a écrit :

If you use [card]Demonic Affliction[/card] and [card]Black Chimera[/card], you can use [card]The Price of Flesh[/card] out of context, so you can mix and match what you're doing.

Yep I had test it, but i prefer with Soulchewer instead of Azaram, order bonus deal damage to enemy triggering the flesh bonus. More melee durability that Azaram if you don't use a weapon with it.

That's the reason why I prefer Azaram in hevy armored deck with ripper and explosions.


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