The cards prices will continue to stay a free market however the prices will have a limit to avoid abuse in the marketplace.
The current listing price will be on a daily bases and will be calculated on the actual sales of the card.
A card which does not sell, will gradually decrease in value, until finally the card is at the lowest set price point for each rarity.
The Foil cards benefit from an overestimated listing price which will be in a relation to their equivalent non-foil.

Selling your card(s) immediately for crystals !

You have the possibility to sell your cards immediately for Crystals.
The price in crystals is fixed and depends on the rarity of the card.
The Legendary and Artwork cards will not be a part of this function (mode).

The End of Monopolies

It will be impossible to buy a card from the marketplace if you already own 10 or more copies of that card.
The 10 copies includes each evolution.

Shown price for normal cards and Foil cards

The selling price of the Foil cards and the normal cards will now be separate.
The selling price of your cards in the marketplace will now be shown in your collection.

Other Information

The commission on the sales price is 30%.
Les conditions to access the marketplace is still the same for both buying and selling
The marketplace will be emptied, this gives the players the choice to put their cards up for sale or not with these new modifications.
The interface of selling cards has now been modified and improved thus reflecting the new marketplace.

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Nicklas · 17-10-2011 14:08:50

The commission on the sales price is 30%.

what a nice add, so all the players have to buy more packs .. is this the strategy behind this feature?
so why dont u turn the whole game offline, this will reach the same effect...
this game is allready expensiv enough, so why will be everything else raised higher also ? i cant understand this ... i really cant understand such a behaviour

mattt · 17-10-2011 14:11:04

epic fail
bye bye eredan

jackal19 · 17-10-2011 14:17:57

Nice move gona try to find another one now

Kilanjared · 17-10-2011 14:20:24

Yeah, I have to say, I'm pretty disappointed by this. In addition, the instant sales price is set so low I can't imagine anyone using it. 100 crystal cards can be sold for 25, and it gets far worse at higher prices. I went to look at my Artrezil's Blade, which normally goes for 100,000 at least....it was 1,250! I don't know who does the math on those, but that is extremely faulty. Whoever uses instant sell is a moron, and it makes any revamp of the marketplace pretty useless....except for screwing us over with the 30%.

I'm still an Eredan faithful, for now, but every week it seems easier and easier to just quit...

magius · 17-10-2011 14:23:52

Look... the commission of sale is to prevent the players from abusing the system using multi-accounts (which is rampant btw from what I can see). By reducing the amount of 'crystals' in circulation, you will reduce the price of cards in general. In addition, it will force people to price the cards appropriately (less card sale value == less tax).

Btw, I think overall this is a great move Although I have a minor suggestion: they can actually implement a tiered Tax system (i.e. 10% if card value < 1000, 20% if card value < 10000, etc.).

Dernière modification par magius (17-10-2011 14:24:48)

jugglajr · 17-10-2011 14:25:39

magius a écrit :

Look... the commission of sale is to prevent the players from abusing the system using multi-accounts (which is rampant btw from what I can see). By reducing the amount of 'crystals' in circulation, you will reduce the price of cards in general. In addition, it will force people to price the cards appropriately (less card sale value == less tax).
Btw, I think overall this is a great move Although they can actually implement a tiered Tax system (i.e. 10% if card value < 1000, 20% if card value < 10000, etc.)

Force people to do what now? We don't have control over these ridiculous prices...400k cards are now 150k...2k rares are now 55k...this entire setup is ridiculous...the only thing they NEARLY got right was adding the sell instantly button. This entire patch was poorly thought out and completely ruined the market.

steeliebob · 17-10-2011 14:33:25

30% tax? you serious ?

Tankdave · 17-10-2011 14:34:13

Even assuming the new mechanics would balance the market (they won't, what they might do is choke it), the spike to 30% is inadmissible.

Whenever a card is transferred, it's 30% more expensive, functionally. Thus making all the fees we put into cards that we were given to understand are worth what they're worth + 10% per transfer be worth less. Money I already spent for a product of a given description and value is esencially stolen from me when for that same amount invested I will now get less.

And don't you dare compare it to the previous system and say "look, the value of your cards were dependant on the actions of others". It's one thing for the freedom of others to do whatever with their cards to make things expensive and A WHOLE other for the people whose CLIENT I am to make things STRICTLY more expensive for me, a user of good faith that doesn't screw around with multi-accounts or whatever.

Hell'a bad business decision, Eredan - hell'a bad.

ZeroClass · 17-10-2011 14:37:55

Oh please why ..... why ..... why .... oh well since I might not be playing it any more next month, but still why 30% tax

Neja.Persot.Spy · 17-10-2011 14:42:03

They cast to us...

Corruption of the Soul..

but..... hahah

Gent M · 17-10-2011 14:47:01

30% sales tax! this is simply ridiculous!!!!
as a paying player who also uses the market place to sell the cards I get from boosters I can say I am outraged and I feel really sorry I bought a 5000 feez pack a few days ago.

It is obvious that Eredan's policy is extremely biased in favor of attracting new players rather then taking care of their existing paying ones.

It's worth mentioning that I only have a few doubles (foil cards under 80k overall value) so I am not pissed because I have a massive stack of legendaries but rather because my feez have much less value.

So what will the new changes do in short - medium term?
1. kill leveling of cards for profit
2. create oligopolies - many more rich players will group themselves to manipulate the price of really valuable cards. With the higher tax they will need to create a much higher price bump in order to have profit.
3. lower the value of feez greatly because of point 2 - really good cards will still be very expensive while all the others will drop in value

Anyway I hope I am wrong and all these changes will prove to be a huge improvement.

Also the price limit for foil has nothing to do with the past real transactions. I can not sell foil angelica for more then 900 crystals, while most playable foil character cards under 3k were selling instantly. The foil announciator has a 2700 limit while most foil tempus cards were selling for around 8k. Also with the current system if a new player sells a foil card for the price of the normal version it greatly affects the price limits of the card in question.
Don't destroy the foil card market. Keep them unregulated!

Hope someone from the developers reads this.....

jugglajr · 17-10-2011 14:47:46

Yea tax us for TRIPLE of what it used to be...you want to fix up the market so do it...DONT TAKE EVERY LAST DIME WE HAVE TO DO IT!

MrLordi92 · 17-10-2011 14:48:05

And here I was thinking I was going to stick with this game through thick an thin. 30% is....... Ludicrous, outrageous........ Another word that ends in -ous.

Is it like taxes in the real world and we get them back in April?

Neja.Persot.Spy · 17-10-2011 14:53:10

Since there is 30% TAX on the market place..

there should, or i would say "MUST"... private sales to the other players, yet there's 10% TAX on it with the same ranges of prices..

steeliebob · 17-10-2011 14:55:52

I was going to put in some money to get new cards, but i'm glad my bank didn't transfer to paypal yet. now anyone knows some other cool itcg wich don't have such ridicules taxes ? I have an account on ***bip*** already so no need to mention that one.

MoonFever · 17-10-2011 14:56:42

Okay, before I pass judgment, what is the instant sale price for each rarity. If a card doesn’t sell, how long before its price drops? How much does it drop by? When will it just fall off the market?

What is the basis of the daily listing price initially? It is said it is based on the actual sales of the card, but if I can’t sell the card for what I feel the value of the card is, it won’t get put up on the market. For example, if I have Lightning Bolts lvl 3, and want to sell it for 60K, but since none have ever sold on the new market, the daily basis for the card will be too low to warrant me putting it on the market, correct?

The explanation doesn’t really give much of a real example on how it is going to work.

Plus, can we get an explanation on why the tax was increased to 30%? Normally to stimulate an economy, taxes get lowered. Isn’t there a fear that this will inflate the cost of cards since people will have to raise prices to get the crystals they feel they deserve for a certain card?

I give credit to Feerik for trying to change the marketplace so dynamically, but I need to see examples on how this is actually working, and an explanation on how these changes are going to improve the market…

catcatcat · 17-10-2011 15:00:35

30% commission is ludicrous. The only thing needed to be done to eliminate monopolies was to set a limit for the number of a certain card a player can have.

Neja.Persot.Spy · 17-10-2011 15:01:19

MoonFever a écrit :

I give credit to Feerik for trying to change the marketplace so dynamically, but I need to see examples on how this is actually working, and an explanation on how these changes are going to improve the market…

for example, adranis is now 55k minimum.... if you want to "sell immediately" this card... you'll only have 1.25k or 1,,250 crystals... what can you say on this thing?..

ZeroClass · 17-10-2011 15:12:14

This will be easily resolve if they will increase what crystal we receive in out weekly, trophies, and battle by 300% or more

jackal19 · 17-10-2011 15:12:54

ZeroClass a écrit :

This will be easily resolve if they will increase what crystal we receive in out weekly, trophies, and battle by 300% or more

yeah and your insane

Sapphon · 17-10-2011 15:14:46

Hello everybody,

a few words on today's scandal :
- 30% : I know it's really high, but it's necessary so we have a chance to correct past errors and move forward. I know it wont be accepted, I know it was a harsh decision, but I want you to trust us a bit and to wait and see : it should be able to help a lot the market and to get rid of people abusing it.

- Direct sell : this option is just here to provide you a fast way to get rid of large amounts of unsellable cards. It wasnt meant to replace the market.

ZeroClass · 17-10-2011 15:15:32

jackal19 a écrit :

ZeroClass a écrit :
This will be easily resolve if they will increase what crystal we receive in out weekly, trophies, and battle by 300% or more
yeah and your insane

actually right now yes I'm insane because my head is crush with japanese lanuage .... but for sure every one like to receive more crystal right?

Malleuz · 17-10-2011 15:18:31

When I was reading through the list of changes posted on the DevBlog, I was smiling the whole time, heartfully.

But then, as we all know, I eventually reached the bottom of the list, and my heart sank and my soul died a bit.

I read that commissions were raised to 30%.

I literally have no way of explaining why this is SUCH a bad idea without sounding like a rant-machine gonecrazy.

What were you thinking Feerik?

I mean, really??

Here is what you should do: Listen to the people who pay for your dinners and rents, and change the commision... and NO, 25% is NOT a good idea either... NOR is 20%!

Neja.Persot.Spy · 17-10-2011 15:19:09

ZeroClass a écrit :

jackal19 a écrit :
ZeroClass a écrit :
This will be easily resolve if they will increase what crystal we receive in out weekly, trophies, and battle by 300% or more
yeah and your insane
actually right now yes I'm insane because my head is crush with japanese lanuage .... but for sure every one like to receive more crystal right?

we want freedom!

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