Eredan's World

soulst3al3r · 14-09-2011 19:36:46

Ive been playing with the same deck for awhile now and its been solid...what can I do to make it more able to beat the nomads and sap heart with their seemingly neverending life totals....

Here's my deck:
Shui kahn (level 3 human)
Malyss
Hime

Other cards-

Spells:
x3 Katamaru
x1 Magic attack

Items:
x1 Lucky Charm
x2 kunais
x2 shurikens
x2 tracker's mask
x2 tracker's emblem
x1 Firon

Action cards:
Anathematize
Offensive
Disarmament
x2 Art of the Iron Fist
Assassination

soulst3al3r · 15-09-2011 00:02:19

soulst3al3r a écrit :

Ive been playing with the same deck for awhile now and its been solid...what can I do to make it more able to beat the nomads and sap heart with their seemingly neverending life totals....
Here's my deck:
Shui kahn (level 3 non human)
Malyss
Hime
Other cards-
Spells:
x3 Katamaru
x1 Magic attack
Items:
x1 Lucky Charm
x2 kunais
x2 shurikens
x2 tracker's mask
x2 tracker's emblem
x1 Firon
Action cards:
Anathematize
Offensive
Disarmament
x2 Art of the Iron Fist
Assassination

MrLordi92 · 15-09-2011 00:11:27

Sap Hearts with endless health? Endless defense sounds more like it with Dais Intervention.

Anyways, three-ing up on Tracker's Mask and Tracker's Emblem is good. Might as well take out Lucky Charm and Firon for the items.

And get rid of Magic Attack, since only Maylss can use it. You could also stand with having just one Shurikan. I only play with one and haven't had any problems with chaining.

Another Art of the Iron Fist couldn't hurt. You have enough items to almost guarantee a chain with it every time.

If you can get another Assassination, go ahead and throw it in. It's really useful to chain it with Kunai in the beginning turns, since Kunai is a dagger.

And this is just a little strategy I use that i really like. Put your Kunai on Shui Khan in the first three turns if you went first. When turn 4 comes around, guess who's the first card they think of picking? Shui Khan, so he doesn't get his amazing +2 Defense. So if you put the Kunai on him, and your opponent doesn't want a certain permanent of his leaving quite yet, he may just ignore Shui Khan. And if he does end up picking Shui Khan, at least you got a Kunai trigger.

soulst3al3r · 15-09-2011 00:27:43

That makes sense...im dropping magic attack for an ice barrier. I like firon cuz I cant afford another assassination and it eventually works as one

my mistake...endless defense for sap hearts rather than life as you mentioned

MrLordi92 · 15-09-2011 00:31:00

soulst3al3r a écrit :

That makes sense...im dropping magic attack for an ice barrier. I like firon cuz I cant afford another assassination and it eventually works as one
my mistake...endless defense for sap hearts rather than life as you mentioned

Ice Barrier's better, but a card that can be used by everyone is better.

How about 3x Return to Sender? It chains for Shui Khan and Hime and naturally chains for Maylss. Plus it powers up Katamaru, too.

Dracatis · 15-09-2011 02:35:18

Meh, [card]Return to Sender[/card] is situational and with emblems and masks he's going to have up to +4 spirit and already has -1 damage. Also I wouldn't put in another Art of the Iron Fist, that is what Shuriken is for. In fact if you get an Origami(Can you say ultimate anti-discard deck?) you might consider taking it out. Until their cheap you can probably do a [card]Disguise[/card] instead(combo'ed with Katamaru of coarse).

You probably don't need a third Mask, someone is going to die, most likely and hopefully Hime.

Consider a [card]Backpack[/card]. Chaining items for you is quite useful.
[card]Substitution[/card] can help keep Marlyss alive chained after a spell. It's rare anyone has an axe. I'd have one.

[card]Lurking in Shadows[/card] is situational but extremely good when it's useful, I'd have one. Discarding for Trackers isn't a bad thing, either your using your shuriken by itself or your getting to your shuriken.

Firon is fine, +2 damage perminent at worse is decent.

Consider having a [card]Watcher[/card]. If one card is super effective, bring it back. If all else fails... assassination.

Also if you want more Katamaru you can add a [card]Recycle Magic[/card].

I tried Anathematize for a while but found I rarely either use it or know to use it by the end of the game, it's so much an almost wasted turn. If it chained I'd consider it maybe.

Lucky Charm doesn't really help Shui much, so if your lucky you might get +6/+0 out if it. But realistically you might get +1/+0, +3/+0, or +4/+0. Of coarse you might just roll high anyways.

Katamaru is like a better Magic Attack they can all use, unneeded.

So sum of my suggestions:
-2 Art of the Iron Fist
-1 Shuriken
-Anathematize
-Lucky Charm
-Magic Attack(which you did)

+1 Tracker's Emblem
+1 Backpack
+1 Substitution
+1 Ice Barrier(which you did)
+1 Lurking in Shadows/Watcher/Recycle Magic
+1 Origami/Disguise/Watcher/Recycle Magic

Also FYI, at the bottom right of posts are an edit button so you don't need to double post to change stuff.

Dernière modification par Dracatis (15-09-2011 02:38:29)

MrLordi92 · 15-09-2011 03:39:50

Dracatis a écrit :

Meh, [card]Return to Sender[/card] is situational and with emblems and masks he's going to have up to +4 spirit and already has -1 damage. Also I wouldn't put in another Art of the Iron Fist, that is what Shuriken is for. In fact if you get an Origami(Can you say ultimate anti-discard deck?) you might consider taking it out. Until their cheap you can probably do a [card]Disguise[/card] instead(combo'ed with Katamaru of coarse).
You probably don't need a third Mask, someone is going to die, most likely and hopefully Hime.
Consider a [card]Backpack[/card]. Chaining items for you is quite useful.
[card]Substitution[/card] can help keep Marlyss alive chained after a spell. It's rare anyone has an axe. I'd have one.
[card]Lurking in Shadows[/card] is situational but extremely good when it's useful, I'd have one. Discarding for Trackers isn't a bad thing, either your using your shuriken by itself or your getting to your shuriken.
Firon is fine, +2 damage perminent at worse is decent.
Consider having a [card]Watcher[/card]. If one card is super effective, bring it back. If all else fails... assassination.
Also if you want more Katamaru you can add a [card]Recycle Magic[/card].
I tried Anathematize for a while but found I rarely either use it or know to use it by the end of the game, it's so much an almost wasted turn. If it chained I'd consider it maybe.
Lucky Charm doesn't really help Shui much, so if your lucky you might get +6/+0 out if it. But realistically you might get +1/+0, +3/+0, or +4/+0. Of coarse you might just roll high anyways.
Katamaru is like a better Magic Attack they can all use, unneeded.
So sum of my suggestions:
-2 Art of the Iron Fist
-1 Shuriken
-Anathematize
-Lucky Charm
-Magic Attack(which you did)
+1 Tracker's Emblem
+1 Backpack
+1 Substitution
+1 Ice Barrier(which you did)
+1 Lurking in Shadows/Watcher/Recycle Magic
+1 Origami/Disguise/Watcher/Recycle Magic
Also FYI, at the bottom right of posts are an edit button so you don't need to double post to change stuff.

Backpack's a waste of an item, and Return to Sender gives defense +1 also, so it's not a dead card against normal aggro decks.

Lurking in the Shadows is too situational for my personal liking. I'd rather run To Track Down, to be perfectly honest.

Backpack is..... Useless, plain and simple. There's enough stuff that chains, and spending one turn playing Backpack and something else, just to play maybe an emblem and a mask is one turn, just for the character to die anyways. Seems bad.

Substitution and Ice Barrier aren't really worth it IMO. Trackers are supposed to be explosive with a little bit of defense (Primarily the Emblems, which give great global defense.) You want to beat your opponent down as fast as possible. There's enough defense for Substitution and Ice Barrier to be cut-able.

Watcher..... I don't know. I never thought 'Man, if only I had Art of the Iron Fist in my deck again.' There aren't many actions to take with it. Not only that it chains only actions, so if you're unlucky enough to have your Shurikan(s) on the bottom of the deck, you have to use one of your maybe 3-5 actions in your entire deck.

Recycle Magic on the other hand seems neat. I never really thought to use it. It really only takes back Katamaru, but again there's the problem of chainning. If you run Return to Sender, you'll have about 6 things to chain with Recycle Magic, which is still only slightly more than your actions. (going back to the problem with Watcher)

Disguise has some neat interaction with Katamaru, giving an extra 2 attack (sort of. +1 Attack for you, and -1 Defense for your opponent).

Origami's a neat idea, and it's good for fighting Circus, since it had built-in recursion. (much like Shurikan, which always goes back to your hand, which is a saving grace against Circus) It's just too bad it costs more than it should right now because it's a new release. Wait till it drops around 1-2K at the most.

soulst3al3r · 15-09-2011 04:01:09

I have tried return to sender before but I found it to be a waste as a trackers emblem does serve a better more all-around attk.

Really second-guessing whether or not to keep anathematize

MrLordi92 · 15-09-2011 17:19:56

soulst3al3r a écrit :

I have tried return to sender before but I found it to be a waste as a trackers emblem does serve a better more all-around attk.
Really second-guessing whether or not to keep anathematize

Emblems don't give attack.....

Anathematize is really only good against IHaS and...... Maybe Dragon Knights because of [card]In the Name of the Dragon[/card]

Besides, Return to Sender gives an attack bonus against magical damage, meaning if you happen to go up against Crows, you get the attack bonus. Also, if it's their turn and they attack first with Tsume equipped, your character gets the bonus and then attacks, and if he stayed alive, then he keeps the bonus.

soulst3al3r · 15-09-2011 22:22:03

I meant that trackers emblem works better as an all around defense. I suppose there is still room for a couple return to sender somewhere..

MrLordi92 · 15-09-2011 23:48:41

soulst3al3r a écrit :

I meant that trackers emblem works better as an all around defense. I suppose there is still room for a couple return to sender somewhere..

Well, this is my list, if it helps.

Shui Khan (Guem)
Hime
Maylss

3x Art of the Iron Fist
3x Katamaru
3x Return to Sender
3x Tracker's Emblem
3x Tracker's Mask
2x Kunai
2x Assassination
1x Shurikan

iQuit · 16-09-2011 06:09:17

+ 1 Disarmament .

Quite useful .

And how about Storm ?

Dernière modification par iQuit (16-09-2011 06:31:50)

soulst3al3r · 18-09-2011 02:27:45

is there a good replacement for storm? a cheaper one perhaps?

Dernière modification par soulst3al3r (18-09-2011 02:28:09)

MrLordi92 · 18-09-2011 04:14:52

soulst3al3r a écrit :

is there a good replacement for storm? a cheaper one perhaps?

Another Shurikan if you're running only 1. Just go through your event cards and see which one works good in your deck. Offensive would be good if you got it.

CAPTUSA · 24-09-2011 01:37:32

Honestly Bro no deck can beat every deck, but dragon knight comes close in my opinion, but are way to expensive, I was running them without last action, and they did good against loads of different decks even the multi-sap heart decks.....but not even the all powerful noz mages can beat every deck, every deck has it's strengths & weaknesses, but if you have a good W/L ratio with that trackers deck it's all good then!

soulst3al3r · 27-09-2011 17:08:54

yep..350/550 isnt too bad for this cheap deck...makes mincemeat out of noz mages

ShinoKaito · 01-10-2011 01:50:08

soulst3al3r a écrit :

is there a good replacement for storm? a cheaper one perhaps?

Hi,you can actually use dismemberment.it's good dat all your characters are only single class and now most decks use multi class.

I am also running this deck,and i found backpack really useful especially if u equip thm to shui kahn.he is the long survivor type so after stacking up items,u can jus equip firon to him.

I also use only 2 tracker masks,as you cant really chain in it,i use capturing d enemy instead. A fallback is also good as it is chainable to capturing d enemy

And i put one to track down as to use it actually u need to 'predict' who will live d longest,and den waste your turn by capturing enemy fallback combo,and he will b finished d nex round

I love stacking up emblems and use double katamaru with malyss

soulst3al3r · 06-10-2011 16:06:46

yep double katamaru with malyss is just sick...opponent usually doesnt see it coming

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What to change with my tracker deck?

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