Eredan's World

MuGGzy · 29-06-2011 16:27:09

Maybe this is not "new" but I just got a message telling me I couldn't sell any of the cards I have in the market unless I buy Feez FIRST!?!
WTF?? I have paid $200+ for this game and now they tell me I have to KEEP BUYING if I want to trade off my cards I already paid for??? They already charge a GD mint for the cards and now I have a "sell them or lose the privilege to sell them" policy??

What if I bought 20 boosters, and for whatever reason, decided to play with the cards and sell them later after leveling them, or got sick, or any number of resons, and couldn't or didn't CHOOSE to sell them right away? Now I have to pay MORE just for the right to sell cards I already paid REAL MONEY FOR?!?!?

This is outright horse$h!7 and I highly suggest Feerik change this policy because I won't be paying any more real money just because I am being blackmailed, especially when they haven't had a "sale" on boosters in 2 months, I guess they are getting tired of money, this is the wrong direction to go to make more.

Zurga · 29-06-2011 16:46:55

The policy is the same since the beginning of this game in april 2010.

When you buy Feez or when you buy a booster, you have an access to the market for selling your cards for 3 weeks.

If you still have Feez, I suggest you to guy a small booster, you will gain your access to the market for selling your cards for 3 new weeks.

Poptolev · 29-06-2011 16:58:36

You know ... it's not a bad idea to write ALL the details in-game.

Poptolev · 29-06-2011 17:31:47

Innariel a écrit :

If you have access to the free fee'z offer, you can get enough for a small booster in an hour or two.

This information is false. You assume that the above person lives in a such country. I have the free feez and every option (except 1) requires for me to buy something more expensive that a pack so I will get enough feez for a pack. The only option I can really do for free is for 1 feez which is ... absurd.

MrLordi92 · 29-06-2011 17:50:35

Poptolev a écrit :

Innariel a écrit :
If you have access to the free fee'z offer, you can get enough for a small booster in an hour or two.
This information is false. You assume that the above person lives in a such country. I have the free feez and every option (except 1) requires for me to buy something more expensive that a pack so I will get enough feez for a pack. The only option I can really do for free is for 1 feez which is ... absurd.

It's not false, just doesn't hold true to you. I haven't spent a dime on this game, I get everything through the free feez.

Yeah sure, the three weeks thing is kind of annoying, but how else do you expect this site to make money? In my eyes, an online game is a business before it's a game. Feerik wants to make money, and how are they going to do that? Not by making the marketplace free to use. If they limit the use of selling your cards, they're MORE likely to sell their virtual product. Not everyone is like you and will get discouraged when they can't sell because they haven't bought a booster pack. They'll shell out a few bucks and get some feez and keep playing. A series of thousands upon thousands of Micro-purchases is what fuels sites like this.

Also, in my opinion, if you don't like something about a site, don't go on the site. Don't sit around and whine about something you don't like. Odds are they're not going to change it, so you might as well either get used to it or leave the site completely.

Poptolev · 29-06-2011 17:58:26

Everyone can twist words. For example - just because it works for you, doesn't make it true.

There are 2 problems with the policy:
a) There is little to no information that after you buy packs in-game you have ONLY 3 weeks to use the market. It's like selling food and accidently forgetting to put how long the food can last without getting spoiled. Do you think that if ANYONE knew that spending 200$ (the above example) would give them only 3 weeks of using the market, they would actually spend it all in once ? But hey, using dirty/cheap tactics to accumulate money is all fine isn't it.

There is a lack of general information on the forums as well, unless you search for it, and let's be honest, if you search for such kind of information you need to know what to search => you'd already know about the limitation.

b) If they want to make money they have to make a good product to sell, using cheap tactics wont give them long-term profits (and any good company shoots for long, not short-term).

Lacking staff on the english side of the forum (I assume the other non-french parts have this problem as well), poor card wordings, taking weeks to fix small bugs with the cards, neglecting the meta (the same deck has been Tier 1 almost since the beginning of the game .. this s RIDICULOUS) and many more DO NOT CONTRIBUTE.

We can compare Eredan to Urbàn bip (I see them as the closest to type game). If you buy a pack ONCE in there you can use the market as much as you want and I am sure they make a lot more income than Eredan.

It's sad when a good game is killed by poor long-term business decisions.

I have no such information, but considering the amount of people I see in the tournaments, the amnezy t and the level room I can only assume that the amount of people playing the game is less than the amount of people that played it 3, 6 and 9 mounths ago. And ... that's not a good sign ...

Dernière modification par Poptolev (29-06-2011 18:06:55)

MuGGzy · 07-07-2011 16:57:31

MrLordi92 a écrit :

I haven't spent a dime on this game, I get everything through the free feez.

"Free Feez" ends up taking hours of time doing stupid surveys and getting you on numerous SPAM lists, what a BARGAIN!

MrLordi92 a écrit :

but how else do you expect this site to make money? In my eyes, an online game is a business before it's a game. Feerik wants to make money, and how are they going to do that?
They'll shell out a few bucks and get some feez and keep playing. A series of thousands upon thousands of Micro-purchases is what fuels sites like this.

I GET that, which is why I have spent around $500, $40 at a time over a few months. Which is far more than I have ever spent for ANY game, and I did so knowing I would never have anything tangible to "hold", if the company closes the game, I am screwed, I accept that. At what point to you get the recognition for "Brand Loyalty"?

MrLordi92 a écrit :

Also, in my opinion, if you don't like something about a site, don't go on the site. Don't sit around and whine about something you don't like. Odds are they're not going to change it, so you might as well either get used to it or leave the site completely.

I call bu!!$hit on this!
If I paid as much as I have, I paid for the RIGHT to complain about the quality of the product or the service of the company, as you have NOT, I would agree that YOU do not have that right maybe, but when I pay $40/week, I GET to b!tch about losing the ability to use ANY portion of the game.

I see no reason to take away the ability to use the market, it's not like you can use it forever, with inflation and diminishing returns you do eventually HAVE to "re-up" and buy some packs, but to take access away, is wrong.

Say my Internet went down for 3 weeks after buying $100 in Boosters and I couldn't get online, how fair is it that for them to say "thanks for the $, buy more to be able to sell, thank you come again"?

I will never spend another penny on this game until I can sell the cards I already PAID FOR.

Rathedan · 07-07-2011 17:11:06

I will never spend another penny on this game until I can sell the cards I already PAID FOR.

This is all you need to express. If that's your value make it known to the company. You don't agree with their business model, and you won't invest in it anymore.

Over-the-top ranting won;t get you any further.

but when I pay $40/week, I GET to b!tch about losing the ability to use ANY portion of the game.

Just going to point out some things to consider. Anger clouds some judgement and this outcome having it's affect on you makes your argument clouded and biased.

A) No one told you that you had to spend that much weekly. That was your sole choice. People spend way less and have equal access. This does NOT mean you are more privileged than someone spending 5$/month.

B) That 40$ you spent was invested and spent already. You got cards, and you used them (otherwise you would have sold them immediately). You spent money, and got immediate value by the fact you got the cards to use. If you spent 40$ a week, it's assumed you must get 40$/week of value from your time spent on this game, otherwise you wouldn't do it. Market sales, thus, are a moot argument. You didn't spend to sell, you spent to use and enjoy at that time, else, liek I said, you would have sold them immediately.

C) Free feez are NOT free. They cost time. People who do these feez exchange thier labor and time for money. Execpt, the money doesn't go to them, it goes to feerek in exchange for feez. They are no different than you, no matter how you look at it. They have invested value.

All I'm pointing out is the flaws in your argument.

Still, do I agree with the marketplace limiter? Not really, but I accept it and adjust my investment in the game accordingly.

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#1 29-06-2011 16:27:09

Can't sell cards in market unless you buy Feez now!?!?!

#2 29-06-2011 16:46:55

Re : Can't sell cards in market unless you buy Feez now!?!?!

#3 29-06-2011 16:58:36

Re : Can't sell cards in market unless you buy Feez now!?!?!

#4 29-06-2011 17:31:47

Re : Can't sell cards in market unless you buy Feez now!?!?!

#5 29-06-2011 17:50:35

Re : Can't sell cards in market unless you buy Feez now!?!?!

#6 29-06-2011 17:58:26

Re : Can't sell cards in market unless you buy Feez now!?!?!

#7 07-07-2011 16:57:31

Re : Can't sell cards in market unless you buy Feez now!?!?!

#8 07-07-2011 17:11:06

Re : Can't sell cards in market unless you buy Feez now!?!?!

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