Annonce

Eredan iTCG forums move. You can find them at this adress: http://forums.eredan.com/index.php.

Eredan GT forums stay here, the same for the old Eredan iTCG forums who pass in read only.

Les forums d'Eredan iTCG ont déménagés. Retrouvez-les à cette adresse : http://forums.eredan.com/index.php.

Les forums d'Eredan GT restent ici, ainsi que les anciens forums d'Eredan iTCG qui y seront toujours en lecture seule.

#1 28-06-2011 04:43:40

Bodia
Ptit nouveau
Inscription : 28-06-2011
Messages : 5

Weapon at will...

This is my first post on the forums.  My girlfriend just showed me how to translate words into English so now i can post.  I've been terrorizing people with this deck since weapons at will came out.  It has gone through many variations but i am finally at a point where i don't think it can be tuned anymore.  I have absolutely no issues with mages or witchblade decks.  My damage output is higher.  I also have no issues vs pack or any zil marauder rush decks either.  This deck is simply very strong and very annoying.   Nehantist decks are a joke.  Desert nomads are no issue either.  Discard is tricky but they usually power me up unintentionally.  I have trouble with Sap item souls are also tricky.  Same with Ishaia and manipulation.  High- out of combat def character are also tough in that weapon throw doesnt do much damage to them and the fight becomes a straight up brawl.

currently, this deck has an 80% win rate.  I am at about 78%.
Asahiro
Jian Qiao
Sen Ryaku
Jian and Sen are needed because they chain dagger.  This is very very important. Without them you cannot kill an enemy character within the first 3 turns.  I've tried other variations and it does NOT work.  You need them for the Simple dagger/weapon throw.  Always start with Asahiro if first and hold onto a dagger and weaponthrow for the ladies.

3 life devourer
3 emerald swords
3 short swords
3 simple dagger
1 tessen

3 weapons at will
2 keep your guard up
2 weapon throw

Some things you need to know are the order of discard.  The last (most recent) item card you discard will be the first card you equip with weapons at will.  The weapon at will chain with weapon throw is RARELY used. 

This deck usually never goes above 6 turns and wins within 4-5 turns.  Also, losses come from decking out if you are not careful.

I am suprised that i don't see weapons at will more often.  I've encountered it about twice so far.
Have fun GG


Hors ligne

#2 28-06-2011 06:48:44

Bodia
Ptit nouveau
Inscription : 28-06-2011
Messages : 5

Re : Weapon at will...

I've encountered an anathematize twice.  Both times by the same player. I think i won both times because he used it so late.  I remember the match.  I was surprised.  I dont get the attack bonuses but i still do get to equip a weapon that turn.  Both matches went to turn 6 and yes, i blow them out of the water too fast. 

Also, this deck can be made really cheap and still effective.  Instead of keep your guard up, you can used nick of time. and instead of 3 devoureres, you can use more tessens.  That is what i used early or else my win percentage would be higher.


Hors ligne

#3 29-06-2011 13:50:37

ZeroClass
Habitant de Guem
Lieu : Philippines
Inscription : 29-06-2011
Messages : 214

Re : Weapon at will...

Hehehe trackers will just try to dodge daggers with close shave ... then your attacks will be low

trackers have close shave, disarmament, to track down and substitution .... if your a weapon type ..

and there is Freeze from noz, the pack can do 6 turn fight and other stuff ... so for me item type is not much

Dernière modification par ZeroClass (29-06-2011 13:55:49)


Hors ligne

#4 29-06-2011 13:58:50

jackal19
Gardien
Lieu : SDM
Inscription : 10-12-2010
Messages : 1 191

Re : Weapon at will...

wow nehantist decks are a joke to you they must be really bad nehnatists then since demon portal can clean this deck good because its so predictable


New englishchat: http://xat.com/EnglisheredanNeo---Online

"Tea is best enjoyed with your fellow monsters"
-Frederica Bernkastel


Hors ligne

#5 29-06-2011 18:59:06

Bodia
Ptit nouveau
Inscription : 28-06-2011
Messages : 5

Re : Weapon at will...

"Hehehe trackers will just try to dodge daggers with close shave ... then your attacks will be low

trackers have close shave, disarmament, to track down and substitution .... if your a weapon type ..

and there is Freeze from noz, the pack can do 6 turn fight and other stuff ... so for me item type is not much"

The damage isnt from the weapons so when my weapons gets discarded, it doesnt matter.  It you are at 18/20 attack, what does 3 matter.  I've had encounters with a close shave but that card is very rarely used and is circumstantial.  I look for it and discard my daggers and just equip swords vs trackers.

Nehantist are really not that strong.  There is a trick to them.  I use weapons at will when there cards go first so they wont take my bonuses from weapons at will.  Also, the idea is to not be predictable and just delay a turn and let them waste their demon portals.  I have an 80% win rate for a reason.

I play ELO matches tons.  I played alot of strong opponents.  Also, this deck is not predictable.  Weapon throw makes it very tricky and is a huge threat.

Dernière modification par Bodia (29-06-2011 18:59:51)


Hors ligne

#6 30-06-2011 01:57:54

jackal19
Gardien
Lieu : SDM
Inscription : 10-12-2010
Messages : 1 191

Re : Weapon at will...

Well even when you delay you could still die due to corruptions by vital and some people are not that stupid to use demonic portals that early they will only use that it if the opponent is already a corruption pincushion.Not predictable you say?if i saw you throw your weapon away so many times tell me if i dont know what will happen.

Dernière modification par jackal19 (30-06-2011 02:02:27)


New englishchat: http://xat.com/EnglisheredanNeo---Online

"Tea is best enjoyed with your fellow monsters"
-Frederica Bernkastel


Hors ligne

#7 28-08-2011 20:26:55

gsgfdsfgd
Campeur
Inscription : 13-03-2011
Messages : 79

Re : Weapon at will...

is that ***bip*** full build? cause a fully builded noz witchblade/mages (i use mages, though incomplete) should be able to outrun ***bip*** deck.

admittedly noz mages are really expensive, but if ***bip*** elo is that high id say itll happen

although im only lvl 13, i have never once lost to ANY kotoba deck lvl 15 or under once i got my first 100-200k.

Dernière modification par gsgfdsfgd (28-08-2011 20:28:59)


Hors ligne

#8 07-09-2011 09:06:56

Nemuki
Campeur
Inscription : 12-08-2011
Messages : 93

Re : Weapon at will...

I use a very similar deck myself, but with the Imperial Lord, Iso and Masamune. I use mostly Wakizachi and Kusanagi because they are dual wield and activate immediatly wich allow me to equip and throw in the same fight.

Emerald Sword is very nice, I also like Eternal Glory and Dreamlike Encounter with this deck, even thought that means less weapons it also means a much faster discard.

I don't use Keep Your Guard Up, but i like Watcher or Scheme so i can use Weapons at Will for an extra time, and Multitasking so Masamune can duplicate his swords and equip two guys at a time, using Masamune this way makes discarding weapons even faster.

I do use Weapon at Will+Weapon throw quite a lot...


Hors ligne

#9 14-09-2011 00:50:20

Nemuki
Campeur
Inscription : 12-08-2011
Messages : 93

Re : Weapon at will...

Hi there

I just began to use another variation of the weapon at will deck, using Yu Ling and Lord Galmara as a shadow guemelite, you change the weapon throws for the Spell Dark Light.

It's doing wonders, but most win are done by points ( i mean all characters are dead but i did so much damage that i almost always win by having more points.)


Hors ligne

Pied de page des forums