General
- Lunation is vital card for all decks of The pack when Wild is in deck, and represent powerful increase of power. Three lunations is crucial.
- Dirty trick and Taming the beast combo has nice defensive capabilities against anything.
- Howling is really nice card, in conjuntion with backstab can deal even the most powerfull defense that even Ishaia can survive.
- Bestials equipped in first turns help a lot! the deck in latter games, specially with Howls, Dance with Volks and backstab.

Marauder decks: Dark, Bloodsword and Wild were the protagonist of this kind of decks. The principal advantages is that dark represent good deal against mages, good spirit and allow to remove some Dirty trick + Taming the beast combos, space that can be cuppled by Assassination + TTD cards that improve damages output. For a marader deck Lunation represent a good improve of defense. The main differences of this kind of decks with other marauder decks that it depend of good put of lunation in first turns, that is not too compatible if your looking for Assassination or TTD combo. This decks is not designed to kill in early games but has possibilities to survice without wounds in the first turns. Suggested cards "Bloodsword marauder defense version", "Assassination".

Warrior build: Fenrath, Faceless and Wild was the main forces here, solid and resistant to physical combat but pretty weak against mages. You need some spirit booster here to deal with heavy mages, Dirty trick and Taming the beast is a nice combo for this build, Dance with Volks can regen the entire unit as usual but with the difference that you need pets to deal damages in defensive turns. This decks in my humble opinion do more damages than marauder decks and it's pretty easy to equip bestials in early turns. Suggested cards "Best defense".

I prefer the warrior build.
I hope it help ^^

Dernière modification par RyogaLX (23-05-2011 21:13:40)

Reycom · 23-05-2011 21:25:26

for the marauder version : fist blade + living dagger ?
like top zil , and of course dagger master
kiss of death for wild?

RyogaLX · 23-05-2011 21:33:56

I sell all my Zil-marauder deck, I can't test daggers and Kiss of death.
But nice suggestion ^^

Riversilk · 24-05-2011 22:12:45

I'd still take Bloodsword for the warrior deck... faceless is rather meh when you compare to the elfine (and the +att bonus she gives)...

RyogaLX · 25-05-2011 04:00:03

Riversilk a écrit :

I'd still take Bloodsword for the warrior deck... faceless is rather meh when you compare to the elfine (and the +att bonus she gives)...

Yes your completely right Faceless sucks. Now I'm trying to suit good marauder deck similar to standard zil-marauder with dagger master and daggers instead of bestials.

The forum is near death so I'm writing in other forums with more movement.

I hope that people share opinions about this decks.

fingreen · 30-05-2011 01:49:14

how does howl work in the deck? i don't get it.

does it gets the bonus from anything? or just a 3/3 4/4 5/5attack?

also why would anyone want a +2+3+2 bonus using two cards? don't you think having a little of everything is pretty weak in a all out attacking pack?

actually maurader version with wild looks decent but going defensive with pack is just.... not gana keep you alive..

Cezco · 30-05-2011 08:23:45

try one and you will understand.

fingreen · 30-05-2011 12:55:18

lend me 3 and i'll test it.

RyogaLX · 30-05-2011 13:06:40

I find that The howl is a ... intent of reinforce the new packs decks against his more fearful enemies, Desert nomads. Other cards like backstab against heavy armored units or in marauder version the card "No-Mercy" can increase potential of The howl.

But..... is pretty bad card...... actually

Glasher · 01-06-2011 18:52:30

So 3 because lunation stacks or 3 because it doesnt work in terms of giving boosts to in combat chars when the char with lunation is ooc?

lek0z · 01-06-2011 19:19:42

I'm tired of my WB deck, and the maximum of Elo then i've got is something arround 1.7k.

This deck, with Wild and Lunations, can be competitive on Elo fights?

Ps: Sorry for my english

DohkoLod · 01-06-2011 23:45:48

I've some doubts about the efficiency, specially against the top ones in Elo...

Let's think about the Nomads... lots of [card]Obesity[/card] can nullify [card]Lunation[/card] and others key actions...

Also, as already pointed, the lack of spirit makes it weak against magic...

And, of course, the greatest pain in the ass: Discard. Can say with all property, but i can see how play with The Pack against it...

Sure thing, there's no Master Deck, but i think this one still with great weakness, and also is very predictable, but i think it'll make it's way to 1700 elo points, maybe more.

as a "tip", i think the marauder one can do really better to Elo, and [card]Escaping Death[/card] can be a great addendum, despite the high stats of this deck, this one will give you a high survival hability.

RyogaLX · 02-06-2011 00:12:05

DohkoLod a écrit :

I've some doubts about the efficiency, specially against the top ones in Elo...
Let's think about the Nomads... lots of [card]Obesity[/card] can nullify [card]Lunation[/card] and others key actions...
Also, as already pointed, the lack of spirit makes it weak against magic...
And, of course, the greatest pain in the ass: Discard. Can say with all property, but i can see how play with The Pack against it...
Sure thing, there's no Master Deck, but i think this one still with great weakness, and also is very predictable, but i think it'll make it's way to 1700 elo points, maybe more.
as a "tip", i think the marauder one can do really better to Elo, and [card]Escaping Death[/card] can be a great addendum, despite the high stats of this deck, this one will give you a high survival hability.

False, I get 1900 elo points and reach position 10 in elo tournament with a pack deck.

And... No, not weak against discard, for the contrary pretty fearfull against it, good against control decks and if you construct the deck pretty well the magic defense is awesome, I believe that I can even win with this kind of decks. If you want more details Check spanish forum for my warband post.

Glasher · 02-06-2011 01:16:03

Who cares...

Does Lunation affect characters in combat when attached to other characters out of combat. Much like the wording of Crystal Storm, or is it just that char on an odd even turn. The "all" is throwin me off before I decide to invest in this.

RyogaLX · 02-06-2011 01:40:04

Obviously all characters in combat are benefit..... -.-'

Rathedan · 02-06-2011 01:50:45

I played against one the other day and its pretty fearful.

For the life of me I don't understand why people dont play bloodsword instead of faceless though...

lek0z · 02-06-2011 02:16:45

RyogaLX a écrit :

DohkoLod a écrit :
I've some doubts about the efficiency, specially against the top ones in Elo...
Let's think about the Nomads... lots of [card]Obesity[/card] can nullify [card]Lunation[/card] and others key actions...
Also, as already pointed, the lack of spirit makes it weak against magic...
And, of course, the greatest pain in the ass: Discard. Can say with all property, but i can see how play with The Pack against it...
Sure thing, there's no Master Deck, but i think this one still with great weakness, and also is very predictable, but i think it'll make it's way to 1700 elo points, maybe more.
as a "tip", i think the marauder one can do really better to Elo, and [card]Escaping Death[/card] can be a great addendum, despite the high stats of this deck, this one will give you a high survival hability.
False, I get 1900 elo points and reach position 10 in elo tournament with a pack deck.
And... No, not weak against discard, for the contrary pretty fearfull against it, good against control decks and if you construct the deck pretty well the magic defense is awesome, I believe that I can even win with this kind of decks. If you want more details Check spanish forum for my warband post.

I want to see your deck configs.

Can you show me it?

RyogaLX · 02-06-2011 05:45:03

RyogaLX a écrit :

Protagonistas
[card]kolera[/card]
[card]Salvaje[/card]
[card]Sangrespada[/card] (Version Ataque guerreros)
Items (4 total)
3x [card]Bestial[/card]
1x [card]Piedra-corazón negra[/card]
Cadenas (8 total)
3x [card]Favor del alba[/card]
1x [card]Ejecución[/card]
1x [card]Viaje[/card]
1x [card]Capturando al enemigo[/card]
2x [card]Tomar las moscas[/card]
Acciones (8 total)
2x [card]Baila stupide los volks[/card]
3x [card]Lunación[/card]
1x [card]La mejor defensa[/card]
1x [card]Conejo[/card]
1x [card]Tempestad[/card]
Cartas totales en el deck: 20
Frecuencia de éxito:
96% en combates convencionales (48/50) (me dañaron el trofeo de las 50 consecutivas ... un deck de cuervos..... estoy pensando poner una defleccion contra este tipo de ataques)
85% en Elo (17/20)
Notas
- La carta [card]Baila stupide los volks[/card] representa una ventaja enorme contra todos los decks enfrentados.
- La cadena [card]Favor del alba[/card] representa una ventaja contra decks de [card]ataque rápido[/card]/[card]veneno magico[/card], Witchblades (Pues normalmente usan item encadenado stupide conjuros, resultando en un bono de ataque y espíritu).
- Este deck presenta mejor fortaleza contra decks de descarte y control (Curas), donde solo es necesario equipar los bestiales y las lunaciones para ganar.
- Los decks de nomadas del desierto representan una amenaza constante, en especial Eclipse o Sacerdotes stupide enjambres de escarabajos.
- Seria tremendamente util utilizar una carta de [card] Un nuevo comienzo[/card]

If you don't understand I can translate it. English forum is quiet slow I prefer to write in other ones.

lek0z · 02-06-2011 15:32:51

I'm Brazilian. Its most easier understand spanish than the english to me, haha.

I just don't understand this 2 cards:

1x Conejo

2x Tomar las moscas

General, its something like this. You dont use Assassinations?

PS: Sorry about the poor english again, haha.

RyogaLX · 02-06-2011 15:51:31

lek0z a écrit :

I'm Brazilian. Its most easier understand spanish than the english to me, haha.
I just don't understand this 2 cards:
1x Conejo
2x Tomar las moscas
General, its something like this. You dont use Assassinations?
PS: Sorry about the poor english again, haha.

No assassination, The first one is [card]Tada you'r a bunny[/card] and the second one was [card]Fly off handle[/card].

Glasher · 03-06-2011 02:59:29

And do they stack, if not why do you need 3? if so i may invest in this. I have yet to see ne of the new pack cards in ne pack deck Ive ran into since. they are so overpriced imo.

RyogaLX · 03-06-2011 03:57:48

Glasher a écrit :

And do they stack, if not why do you need 3? if so i may invest in this. I have yet to see ne of the new pack cards in ne pack deck Ive ran into since. they are so overpriced imo.

Is not overpriced is a great action card, you need 3 if you want to reach defense 10 in all your characters.... come on dude.... -.-' test it and you'll see what I'm saying...

ehhh not, better if you don't buy it and stop putting complains and senseless comments here....

RyogaLX · 03-06-2011 05:26:43

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This is enough to make you understand that the stack? or you'll continue to complain?

chuma93 · 03-06-2011 06:15:46

ha, so youre speak english too, great deck man, but i think can put one clonation to use good cards like best defense and anothers

jackal19 · 03-06-2011 07:34:50

i fought this type of deck and all i can say is its a monster on attacks

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