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New Theme Decks!
Preconstucted Decks are now available on Eredan iTCG *!
Have you just started playing the game but would rather start with a more specific Themed Deck? Are you currently playing Eredan itcg but wish to discover other Guilds?
We are pleased to announce the new preconstructed Decks.** These decks are available for the Noz, Kotoba, Zil, Nomad, Sap Heart, Pirates and Mercenaries!
These "Ready to Play" Decks contain 23 cards (3 characters and 20 cards) this includes 4 rare cards, 12 uncommon, 7 common.
*For more specific details concerning these decks, please head over to the Eredan iTCG store.
**You can only buy one from each for the price of 999 Fee'z.
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Anyone else think this is going to lower the value of some cards? (I'm looking at you Mercenary deck, coughcoughThunderKingcoughcough coughcoughRunicEquipmentcoughcough)
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I dont think so, as the deck is pretty pricey... I dont think anyone would sell it that cheap ^^
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I like the idea but i dont like the fact that one deck cost 999 feez i think thats a little to much, and when are they going to do this for people who cant afford feez?
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I think, based on booster prices, they're fairly reasonable actually. A booster is a little less than half of that, and that's for the chance to get 1 of the rares in the deck. No guarantee at all. Whereas this means you get all 4 rares for the price of 2 boosters, plus a little more for the other cards. I doubt you can even sell the cards you get from them, but when you consider the people who can afford those cards from the Market are mostly people who buy Fee'z and Boosters anyway, I don't think the price is too unreasonable.
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They have already done it for those who "can't afford" feez, its called: the 3 starter decks. One of them have an Assassination :b
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I don't know for you guys but on the french part, we are clearly agreing that these deck are a joke...
I mean: who is gonna pay 1k feez for a deck that would cost 40k at much on the market?
What about you? Would you pay for these?
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The contents are still unknown. I hope someone would list the cards included in the starter decks. That will give us a clear idea if the 999 feez are worth it or not.
But the mere fact that its a starter deck, it's going to lack fire power. New players will still have to save up a lot of crystals before they can upgrade this and make it competitive. Some players might be better off buying singles from the Market Place.
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The contents are still unknown. I hope someone would list the cards included in the starter decks. That will give us a clear idea if the 999 feez are worth it or not.
But the mere fact that its a starter deck, it's going to lack fire power. New players will still have to save up a lot of crystals before they can upgrade this and make it competitive. Some players might be better off buying singles from the Market Place.
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So for 20 or more real life dollars you too can own cards you prolly already have. Or buy cards you dont want just for a guarantee for the really pricey crystal cards....yeah...these are a joke.
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So for 20 or more real life dollars you too can own cards you prolly already have. Or buy cards you dont want just for a guarantee for the really pricey crystal cards....yeah...these are a joke.
Thats why you can see the cards on the decks...
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Personally, I have bought 2 and I am quite happy with my purchase. In regards to their price, I feel it is quite resonable and you actually get some good cards en some of them (even in the desert nomad deck you still get 2 fervor), because I see it that if I would have to get 4 random rares I would have to buy 4 boosters for 280 feez a piece (I usually buy boosters doing a discount) for a total amount of 1120 feez, so in short: I have saved a few feez.
But did I get value?
Well, I feel that I did. I bought the Mercenary and Sap Heart decks and there are quite a few decent cards in both deck; Aez and Hares and the items are worth quite a bit, and Keizan and Hailwalker are not bad rares either.
Would I have gotten money value if I had bought 4 boosters instead?
Maybe, maybe not. As everybody knows, opening a booster is a thing of luck, NOT statistics :b
I could have gotten my 3 Ishai (I stille think I killed statistics when I, more or less, opened 2 in a row), but I could also have been stuck with my 4 or 5 Magic Hat. You never know, but that is also part of the fun in buying boosters: You might get crap, but you might also strike gold
Preconstrucked gets are a lot different. In the real world, they are usually a bit more expensive than boosters (my exp. from Magic: the gathering), but not only that, the cards you get are usually horrible!
But these Pre-stupide decks are, by far, the best I have ever seen. They are not expensive, you get good cards, and the decks have a fairly good synergy.
Over all, they are Pre-Cons (maybe even good Pre-Cons), at least treat them as such.
/Malleuz
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Col.Beowulf a écrit :So for 20 or more real life dollars you too can own cards you prolly already have. Or buy cards you dont want just for a guarantee for the really pricey crystal cards....yeah...these are a joke.
Thats why you can see the cards on the decks...
I meant the fact that by now most people already own most of those cards. Like I for one bought Trackers in the first place because they were cheap. And I already own most of the cheaper characters so buying anything for 20+ Real life dollars when I cant even buy the boosters is just another joke for the free players. If they at least had an option for like 15k crystals along with 999 Fee'z (Sickening) it would be fair.
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i do think they are a little expensive , and also i think they should be for the beginners as an starter deck , and the cards would be non salable
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Santuros a écrit :Col.Beowulf a écrit :So for 20 or more real life dollars you too can own cards you prolly already have. Or buy cards you dont want just for a guarantee for the really pricey crystal cards....yeah...these are a joke.
Thats why you can see the cards on the decks...
I meant the fact that by now most people already own most of those cards. Like I for one bought Trackers in the first place because they were cheap. And I already own most of the cheaper characters so buying anything for 20+ Real life dollars when I cant even buy the boosters is just another joke for the free players. If they at least had an option for like 15k crystals along with 999 Fee'z (Sickening) it would be fair.
yeah those are kinda expensive but the boosters can be bought by new players too...
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I have a little sad feeling about these decks, I wonder why instead of adding more cards for castes that need it we get preconstructed decks that are A) not all that great and B) Takes a little bit of the fun of deckbuilding away from people I think. Just my 2 cents
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Col.Beowulf a écrit :Santuros a écrit :Thats why you can see the cards on the decks...
I meant the fact that by now most people already own most of those cards. Like I for one bought Trackers in the first place because they were cheap. And I already own most of the cheaper characters so buying anything for 20+ Real life dollars when I cant even buy the boosters is just another joke for the free players. If they at least had an option for like 15k crystals along with 999 Fee'z (Sickening) it would be fair.
yeah those are kinda expensive but the boosters can be bought by new players too...
Boosters and precons can be bought by all. My point is. If they were going to do this...they should have done it better and for both prices. That way free players actually have a chance to get them. Like they did with the starters. But like at 30k or something reasonable. A goal to save for or something.
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First: Here's a big hand and a 'solid work!' to the guys at Feerik.
Second: Here's why, with a mixture of market experience and a healthy dosing of sarcasm.
Personally, even though I don't plan on buying them unless/until I get a windfall, the price is reasonable...far more than I've seen from other TCGs. Or miniatures games. Usually, the pre-stupide formula goes like this [for those unfamiliar]:
-Price: ~2.5x single booster MSRP
-Cards: 2 rares, 10 uncommons, flood of commons. basic resource cards supplied if applicable [treat these as maybe worth 1/10th of a common...until you have more than enough of every type. then they're toilet paper]
So, for the cost of two and a half boosters, I can get two rares, the most of which I've seen one is a good rare and the other mediocre at best, the same amount of uncommons as 2.5 boosters with a vast smattering of usefulness, and staple commons.
Compare to these:
-Price: ~2.5x single premium booster
-Cards: 4 rares, 7 uncommons, filler commons. Most have 2 rares being characters [resource cards not applicable to this game]
So, for the cost of two and a half boosters, I get FOUR rares, most on the scale of good - great [as opposed to 'this is a rare?' - 'crap' at one end and 'legendary/expensive - frickin' amazing' at the other] and plenty of useful (and at least moderately salable) uncommons. Hold the boat, Batman! This puts them at least on par with the best preconstructed decks I've seen in other games, even when you consider the secondary market. You're not getting Ergue, but there's not a Kroub in sight.
Even if NONE of these cards were trade-able, anyone trying to build a collection and looking for guaranteed building blocks of good decks can make a one stop shop and save them-self a few feez in the process. Oh, what's that? You can't get Ishaia, A Fresh Start, or one of the amazing legendaries? That's the price of preconstructed guarantees, and guess what? If you're like a lot of players, the idea of getting better rares for your money than a roulette day that ends with 2x Blasphemy, Magic Hat, and Escaping Death is a great one. Not to mention that the idea of saving time raising the crystals BEFORE you have any Elo ready decks (or playing the one you managed to build and are sick of playing). I mean, heaven forbid a company markets a product a significant portion of their potential customers might want.
So, please, by all means complain about how a company wants to sell a comparatively superior product to all the other games you can play (usually requiring cash to play at all, and a lot more to fill out your power rares) which might entice free players to spend a bit of their birthday money on a game they enjoy instead another CD from Walmart or a night at Applebees [I'm not sure what the closest European equivalents are, but I'm pretty sure the 'a few tunes for your iPod or a nice dinner' analogy holds]. Let us know it's a joke that Feerik adopts a type of packaging for their product that is ubiquitous to the gaming industry (industries? whatever...) that actually makes sense, and how no, you STILL can't just pay Feez to get the power rares on a favorable basis for you. I'll spend my complaining time on things actually worth complaining about.
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First: Here's a big hand and a 'solid work!' to the guys at Feerik.
Second: Here's why, with a mixture of market experience and a healthy dosing of sarcasm.
Personally, even though I don't plan on buying them unless/until I get a windfall, the price is reasonable...far more than I've seen from other TCGs. Or miniatures games. Usually, the pre-stupide formula goes like this [for those unfamiliar]:
-Price: ~2.5x single booster MSRP
-Cards: 2 rares, 10 uncommons, flood of commons. basic resource cards supplied if applicable [treat these as maybe worth 1/10th of a common...until you have more than enough of every type. then they're toilet paper]So, for the cost of two and a half boosters, I can get two rares, the most of which I've seen one is a good rare and the other mediocre at best, the same amount of uncommons as 2.5 boosters with a vast smattering of usefulness, and staple commons.
Compare to these:
-Price: ~2.5x single premium booster
-Cards: 4 rares, 7 uncommons, filler commons. Most have 2 rares being characters [resource cards not applicable to this game]So, for the cost of two and a half boosters, I get FOUR rares, most on the scale of good - great [as opposed to 'this is a rare?' - 'crap' at one end and 'legendary/expensive - frickin' amazing' at the other] and plenty of useful (and at least moderately salable) uncommons. Hold the boat, Batman! This puts them at least on par with the best preconstructed decks I've seen in other games, even when you consider the secondary market. You're not getting Ergue, but there's not a Kroub in sight.
Even if NONE of these cards were trade-able, anyone trying to build a collection and looking for guaranteed building blocks of good decks can make a one stop shop and save them-self a few feez in the process. Oh, what's that? You can't get Ishaia, A Fresh Start, or one of the amazing legendaries? That's the price of preconstructed guarantees, and guess what? If you're like a lot of players, the idea of getting better rares for your money than a roulette day that ends with 2x Blasphemy, Magic Hat, and Escaping Death is a great one. Not to mention that the idea of saving time raising the crystals BEFORE you have any Elo ready decks (or playing the one you managed to build and are sick of playing). I mean, heaven forbid a company markets a product a significant portion of their potential customers might want.
So, please, by all means complain about how a company wants to sell a comparatively superior product to all the other games you can play (usually requiring cash to play at all, and a lot more to fill out your power rares) which might entice free players to spend a bit of their birthday money on a game they enjoy instead another CD from Walmart or a night at Applebees [I'm not sure what the closest European equivalents are, but I'm pretty sure the 'a few tunes for your iPod or a nice dinner' analogy holds]. Let us know it's a joke that Feerik adopts a type of packaging for their product that is ubiquitous to the gaming industry (industries? whatever...) that actually makes sense, and how no, you STILL can't just pay Feez to get the power rares on a favorable basis for you. I'll spend my complaining time on things actually worth complaining about.
Cheers!
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You want to talk money? Ok fine. For nothing but online pixels the boosters are 10$ a piece. Because that is the lowest you can pay into this game to get them. Magic the Gathering? Yugioh? Pokemon? All are 5$ or less.
Precons. Magic's, Yugioh and again Pokemon are about 10$-13$ dollars....these are 20$ or more. For tangible cards you can hold in your hands the prices are lower. For internet use only cards? The prices are doubled if not more. Ok so what happens if you loose internet? Feeriks servers crash? For double the price of cards...you just lost it all and you have nothing to show for it. Even if you loose or sell your real life TGC you still will have something to show for it. Money prizes or even some cards left. So...I think I will stick with my statement that for the (sickening) prices of these decks. The cards you get arent worth it. If they had done this earlier? Then it might have been ok. But by now almost everyone has all the characters sold and most of the deck. If someone wanted a guaranteed Runic Gauntlet or an Exaltation, and maybe Crystal Crown? Its not worth it.
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What some guys in this thread fails to see the begining of it - name. Those are starter decks in their idea, as in something you start with, and coments like "I got whole colection, why should i buy these" doesn't even apply to them. If you just starting, and you wan't to play decks from other guilds this is the way.
Now on deck composition:
Nomads: well i understand why they made priest deck, this add entirely diferent perpective of game, but put it against any other theme deck it will loose soundly, priests must use some very dirty tricks to (I'm talking to you new start). So 8/10 for originality, 2/10 for performance
Zil: Pack, unimaginative but solid + got 2 sets of love and war combo. 4/10 for originality 8/10 for performance
Sap heart: Interesting aproach to saps, I can't even say if it works, haven't met any deck like that before. My vote on it doesn't, but that is up in the air. originality 10/10 performance -?
Kotoba: Trackers, do i need to say more? originality 0/10 performance - 7/10 (well its most tuned deck, and it would beat any other unmodified theme deck, but after little modification it goes down, as there is no place to improve)
Mercenaries: get this for the cards, nothing else to say about it. Originality 4/10, performance 4/10.
Pirates: two words -epic fail its just random cards put together. originality 0/10, efectivness 0/10
Noz: Well it could be worse, it could have been WB. MVP goes to dexterity test in equipment deck, can't even imagine how you can make it work. originality 3/10 efectivness 7/10
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You want to talk money? Ok fine. For nothing but online pixels the boosters are 10$ a piece. Because that is the lowest you can pay into this game to get them. Magic the Gathering? Yugioh? Pokemon? All are 5$ or less.
Precons. Magic's, Yugioh and again Pokemon are about 10$-13$ dollars....these are 20$ or more. For tangible cards you can hold in your hands the prices are lower. For internet use only cards? The prices are doubled if not more. Ok so what happens if you loose internet? Feeriks servers crash? For double the price of cards...you just lost it all and you have nothing to show for it. Even if you loose or sell your real life TGC you still will have something to show for it. Money prizes or even some cards left. So...I think I will stick with my statement that for the (sickening) prices of these decks. The cards you get arent worth it. If they had done this earlier? Then it might have been ok. But by now almost everyone has all the characters sold and most of the deck. If someone wanted a guaranteed Runic Gauntlet or an Exaltation, and maybe Crystal Crown? Its not worth it.
Right, because you keep all the money you earn physically with you or your physical house, actually own nothing on your computer, and you can play with your real physical copies with anyone, anytime. And you've certainly never paid money that faces similarly poorly in price comparisons to see a movie in theater, watch a show in person, read a book before it came out in paperback cheap-edition...do I really need to make a full list of things we pay for everyday you can't physically hold in your hand?
Oh wait, that's not an argument about price, that's an argument about digital property! Jeez, how silly of me to assume you were going to make an actual argument about the value of preconstructed decks as a product and the intended market. People who buy booster boxes of Magic tend not to be precons. People who have considerably less money to throw at the game do, for exactly the reasons those with more money don't. If your concerns are about digital property, you don't buy digital property because your cost analysis makes it not worth your time unless it's free, or comes with some kind of tangible, physical backup such as verification codes, vouchers, or some such. So no, it isn't worth it for you. You're not new to the game, you don't have a collection with these particular gaping holes, you don't generally go for digital property by your arguments. For many other people, who you may well consider fools, it's actually a good deal.
I did mention I wasn't planning on buying these, right? [hint: yes, I did] I don't plan on buying an iPad or a dedicated gaming computer for pretty similar reasons. I don't have the expendable income, I personally find other things more entertaining for the money, my collection doesn't have those particular holes either. That doesn't alter their value for their intended markets or the companies that make them, or magically turn them into bad products.
Like I said, I'll spend my complaining time about things worth complaining about.
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Can anyone tell me what are the rare cards for Nomad and Mercenaries? I am unable to access the game atm. Thks!. Im thinking to buy 1 if they got the rare that I need.
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I don't know for you guys but on the french part, we are clearly agreing that these deck are a joke...
I mean: who is gonna pay 1k feez for a deck that would cost 40k at much on the market?What about you? Would you pay for these?
It depends on a person's circumstances. If I was a newer player with a smaller card pool and not that many crystals to spend immediately, I would consider purchasing one or more of these decks to start out in a new direction of deck building.
As a very developed and also rich player, I wouldn't even consider at all. Mostly because I already have all of the cards in the decks or have more than enough funds to purchase the cards from the marketplace.
I still do not believe it is a joke. It's definately not what I expected, but I wouldn't dismiss these decks. They have their uses and are pretty decent for the money involved.
Santuros a écrit :Col.Beowulf a écrit :So for 20 or more real life dollars you too can own cards you prolly already have. Or buy cards you dont want just for a guarantee for the really pricey crystal cards....yeah...these are a joke.
Thats why you can see the cards on the decks...
I meant the fact that by now most people already own most of those cards. Like I for one bought Trackers in the first place because they were cheap. And I already own most of the cheaper characters so buying anything for 20+ Real life dollars when I cant even buy the boosters is just another joke for the free players. If they at least had an option for like 15k crystals along with 999 Fee'z (Sickening) it would be fair.
Boosters and precons can be bought by all. My point is. If they were going to do this...they should have done it better and for both prices. That way free players actually have a chance to get them. Like they did with the starters. But like at 30k or something reasonable. A goal to save for or something.
When will you understand that this game isn't meant for free players and mostly caters to paying customers? Seriously, stop complaining. If you spend the cash and wish to complain about it, be my guest.
Why should Feerik even impose a set crystal price on these preconstructed decks? Setting a crystal tag on x cards predetermines a price and people will orient themselves on the marketplace based on these prices. It is nowhere in Feerik's place to impose in such a way on our player based market. Especially not for the sake of dead weight consumers who aren't spending any money.
What some guys in this thread fails to see the begining of it - name. Those are starter decks in their idea, as in something you start with, and coments like "I got whole colection, why should i buy these" doesn't even apply to them. If you just starting, and you wan't to play decks from other guilds this is the way.
This is entirely right.
To those disputing about comparable prices in real life (ironically one who doesn't even spend a dime in this game is complaining about its prices lol) and virtual cards being non existant or worth the money: Stop it. It really is just getting stupid. Sorry to be blunt.
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Sbourf a écrit :I don't know for you guys but on the french part, we are clearly agreing that these deck are a joke...
I mean: who is gonna pay 1k feez for a deck that would cost 40k at much on the market?What about you? Would you pay for these?
It depends on a person's circumstances. If I was a newer player with a smaller card pool and not that many crystals to spend immediately, I would consider purchasing one or more of these decks to start out in a new direction of deck building.
As a very developed and also rich player, I wouldn't even consider at all. Mostly because I already have all of the cards in the decks or have more than enough funds to purchase the cards from the marketplace.
I still do not believe it is a joke. It's definately not what I expected, but I wouldn't dismiss these decks. They have their uses and are pretty decent for the money involved.
Col.Beowulf a écrit :Santuros a écrit :Thats why you can see the cards on the decks...
I meant the fact that by now most people already own most of those cards. Like I for one bought Trackers in the first place because they were cheap. And I already own most of the cheaper characters so buying anything for 20+ Real life dollars when I cant even buy the boosters is just another joke for the free players. If they at least had an option for like 15k crystals along with 999 Fee'z (Sickening) it would be fair.
Boosters and precons can be bought by all. My point is. If they were going to do this...they should have done it better and for both prices. That way free players actually have a chance to get them. Like they did with the starters. But like at 30k or something reasonable. A goal to save for or something.
When will you understand that this game isn't meant for free players and mostly caters to paying customers? Seriously, stop complaining. If you spend the cash and wish to complain about it, be my guest.
Why should Feerik even impose a set crystal price on these preconstructed decks? Setting a crystal tag on x cards predetermines a price and people will orient themselves on the marketplace based on these prices. It is nowhere in Feerik's place to impose in such a way on our player based market. Especially not for the sake of dead weight consumers who aren't spending any money.
Politikas a écrit :What some guys in this thread fails to see the begining of it - name. Those are starter decks in their idea, as in something you start with, and coments like "I got whole colection, why should i buy these" doesn't even apply to them. If you just starting, and you wan't to play decks from other guilds this is the way.
This is entirely right.
To those disputing about comparable prices in real life (ironically one who doesn't even spend a dime in this game is complaining about its prices lol) and virtual cards being non existant or worth the money: Stop it. It really is just getting stupid. Sorry to be blunt.
Maybe if the prices were comparable to real cards you might have more players buying? I dunno just a suggestion. But go ahead and be rude to your (mostly) free players. They will all leave and you'll be without a bulk of your player numbers.
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Maybe if the prices were comparable to real cards you might have more players buying? I dunno just a suggestion. But go ahead and be rude to your (mostly) free players. They will all leave and you'll be without a bulk of your player numbers.
It has nothing to do with being rude to free players. Eredan iTCG is a game intended mostly for paying customers. To be able to offer some gameplay and fun to free players, Feerik gives free players quite a lot.
-Trophies, lots of free ones that net you cards, experience and crystals. Weekly new event ones for FREE, which later cost money if you did not complete them. That's already a free 200 Feez a week.
-Events, you get to participate in most events, where admittingly, you need to spend a certain amount to participate in it 100%. Thes eevents usually include lots of various goodies, ranging from cards and crystals.
-Free access to purchase cards from other players. You cannot sell, but you definately can buy cards from other players. As you like to compare to other games, such iTCGs like Warstorm do not even enable a marketplace for paying customers. This is a bonus. Argumenting that its worthless because cards are so expensive is moot. The players determine teh card prices, not the company running and hosting the game.
-Ability to earn free Feez from other companies. This is a tool a lot of friends of mine used to get lots of feez and to buy lots of cards. Some of these players are really good players and haven't spent a dime on the game. Unfortunately these Free Feez offers are not available to post Travian Games newbies. But I am sure eventually that will change too.
That is a whole lot for absolutely nothing in return on Feerik's side. The next time you speak of rudeness, consider how good free players actually have it and hold your tongue. Otherwise that would be rude itself.
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