you all suck, I play straight trackers and it's not the decks that get me but the op cards. you can't play strategy against overpowering moves. (ie. items have a soul, magic attack, the one that doubles your next card) honestly don't know what they were doing with this stuff. Plus I have not seen a card for trackers that really even give a decent edge, just a "meh" threat level.

Joey_Parker · 23-02-2011 19:53:33

mist13 a écrit :

you all suck, I play straight trackers and it's not the decks that get me but the op cards. you can't play strategy against overpowering moves. (ie. items have a soul, magic attack, the one that doubles your next card) honestly don't know what they were doing with this stuff. Plus I have not seen a card for trackers that really even give a decent edge, just a "meh" threat level.

what is will u there is not really any op cards everything has a counter ie [card]items have a soul[/card] can be countered with [card]Anathematize[/card and [card]Obesity[/card] and [card]Obesity[/card] can counter all actions cards, Im kind of tired of hearing op this and op thats this is a game its for fun

kalatraba · 23-02-2011 21:05:49

Joey_Parker a écrit :

mist13 a écrit :
you all suck, I play straight trackers and it's not the decks that get me but the op cards. you can't play strategy against overpowering moves. (ie. items have a soul, magic attack, the one that doubles your next card) honestly don't know what they were doing with this stuff. Plus I have not seen a card for trackers that really even give a decent edge, just a "meh" threat level.
what is will u there is not really any op cards everything has a counter ie [card]items have a soul[/card] can be countered with [card]Anathematize[/card and [card]Obesity[/card] and [card]Obesity[/card] can counter all actions cards, Im kind of tired of hearing op this and op thats this is a game its for fun

Are we wrong complaining that witchblades are OP? There is a deck that can heal itself (Sword of Light), do magic damage with the sword effect, do massive physical damage with magic attack, and of course reactivate the sword twice a round. They can chain with all of their cards. You can say you can "block" magic attack by obesity. The thing is you cannot really predict when they will use it and in addition to that it makes your defence 2 meaning you can lose a great deal of defence...

Dernière modification par kalatraba (23-02-2011 21:06:51)

Glasher · 23-02-2011 23:51:03

Hmm seems to me the thread isnt really focused on WB its more that so many peons copy decks because they arent creative or skilled enough to build, or win with anything else. You can enjoy the 'fun' in the game simply by walking your own path. Who knows you might find the latest and greatest deck...

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Gabriel_Caetano · 24-02-2011 02:44:58

Glasher a écrit :

Hmm seems to me the thread isnt really focused on WB its more that so many peons copy decks because they arent creative or skilled enough to build, or win with anything else. You can enjoy the 'fun' in the game simply by walking your own path. Who knows you might find the latest and greatest deck...

you said it

bleachman · 24-02-2011 04:12:08

Witchblades are not OP. They are strong and can best a lot of decks, but they are definately, 100% definately, not overpowered. Most witchblade decks I encounter suck. Mostly because the people either cannot afford to buy good cards to go with the characters or they just don't know how to play the game.

The only reason I would lose to a Witchblade deck is because I am training lowbie chars and facing fully maxed Witchblades. Otherwise they do not best me that often.

This thread originates, as glasher said and I have mentioned before, that people play these characters and decks way too often. Its literally getting dull facing the same thing almost every other game.

Limestone · 24-02-2011 05:38:55

kalatraba a écrit :

Joey_Parker a écrit :
mist13 a écrit :
you all suck, I play straight trackers and it's not the decks that get me but the op cards. you can't play strategy against overpowering moves. (ie. items have a soul, magic attack, the one that doubles your next card) honestly don't know what they were doing with this stuff. Plus I have not seen a card for trackers that really even give a decent edge, just a "meh" threat level.
what is will u there is not really any op cards everything has a counter ie [card]items have a soul[/card] can be countered with [card]Anathematize[/card and [card]Obesity[/card] and [card]Obesity[/card] can counter all actions cards, Im kind of tired of hearing op this and op thats this is a game its for fun
Are we wrong complaining that witchblades are OP? There is a deck that can heal itself (Sword of Light), do magic damage with the sword effect, do massive physical damage with magic attack, and of course reactivate the sword twice a round. They can chain with all of their cards. You can say you can "block" magic attack by obesity. The thing is you cannot really predict when they will use it and in addition to that it makes your defence 2 meaning you can lose a great deal of defence...

SoL isn't da case here, but what really annoys me are there are some witchblade cards, a spell actually that mostly chains like ice mirror or whatever that is, They got a lot of of chains especially spells that got chain on it. I suggest lessen the effect or remove the chain.

Anyway back on the topic, some flocks of sheep who seems don't have the creativity or just afraid to give their fur away for booster are running into witchblades, I understand the feeling of those player to run to this deck because the cheap cost to make one and can answer most deck out there. Hey it's 60% win with the most basic of staple card.

Either there will be another cargo-class deck that better than WB or the sheeps gonna stick with this. I would like to see some sort of hard counter like this would be released:
multiple hatred, uncommon. adds +2 atk for each different class of the opposing character

Would trim the herds nicely with that one out

Dernière modification par Limestone (24-02-2011 07:42:58)

Caitlyn · 24-02-2011 06:42:41

its kinda hard for you to be creative if you can only work with 3 basic decks.. and have very little crystals..

so those people who play for free normally just pick someone's pre-made deck that is fairly effective and work with that first to make enough money to hopefully buy something better

they wont play on elo since they can't win anyway so they camp at training room.. it doesnt really bother me too much since I at least have players which means the game won't end anytime soon..

Esumya · 24-02-2011 15:31:38

Witchblade deck are not creative or not skilful?
I can not agree with that. These mutli-classes characters can use all most all the cards in Eredan, which make this deck have the best flexibility over all kind of other decks.

As you pointed out this deck is very easy to start with, even though with basic cards from beginner boster without Naya and they are still efficient, that is ture. And the best thing of witchblade deck for a new player is, whatever he pulled out a rare or uncommon cards from his first few boosters, he can always easily found a place for his new cards in his witchblade deck because the witchs are all mutli-classes.

And this deck have the potential to be a competitive deck in elo room rather than just a beginner deck. This is because of they all are MAGE. Spell cards like fireball, RoD, magical attack and the last action are expensive but powerful. If you want complain witchblade are OP, I have to say they are not but the MAGE are.

Overall, give me some reasons that why a new player should not start with a deck that easy to build up and have the best potential to be developed? the truth is the witchblade is the best well designed deck for most new players at this moment, if you really dislike it, go for anti-witchblade deck rather than complain here.

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Gabriel_Caetano · 24-02-2011 15:36:26

i disagree

talkin about estability the defensive discards with ishaya are actually better

usually i only lose for a witchblade deck if my first draw is really awful, i find them quite easy to deal with

Glasher · 24-02-2011 17:05:35

They are not creative because they are all the same. They may vary by budgets but not in theory or concept.

Now if a Witchblade were to have its core:
Ice Shield
Ice Coffin
Blades

And then utilize another tactic besides Marauder rushdown or Mage rushdown such as DWit into Hammer, or Solaris, or Quick Draw, or even mime DK and use Divine Anger. Then it would begin to be a creative deck idea. However, relying on Dwit combos takes the WB deck out of top tier contention, which is where our followers come in, which is why we are discussing its dullness.

When Feerik releases a set and you use it as intended that is not innovative.

Witchblade is no different than any other deck. If
A: Your deck is already weak to mages
B: Your deck lacks high offense
C: Your deck lacks tech like Freeze or Counterspell
D: Your deck lacks any defense

and you face Witchbaldes you might lose. However, if your deck is solid, well built, and you know how to play it and change styles depending on the opposing deck type and their tactics, you raise the probability of winning.

As for people who don't pay I feel no pity for you. Other than certain countries with no surveys or fee options you have the choice to become better you choose not to for w/e reason. While I respect your reason to not purchase fees I do not respect it as an excuse to wimper about decks.

Limestone · 24-02-2011 17:06:43

Esumya a écrit :

Witchblade deck are not creative or not skilful?
I can not agree with that. These mutli-classes characters can use all most all the cards in Eredan, which make this deck have the best flexibility over all kind of other decks.
As you pointed out this deck is very easy to start with, even though with basic cards from beginner boster without Naya and they are still efficient, that is ture. And the best thing of witchblade deck for a new player is, whatever he pulled out a rare or uncommon cards from his first few boosters, he can always easily found a place for his new cards in his witchblade deck because the witchs are all mutli-classes.
And this deck have the potential to be a competitive deck in elo room rather than just a beginner deck. This is because of they all are MAGE. Spell cards like fireball, RoD, magical attack and the last action are expensive but powerful. If you want complain witchblade are OP, I have to say they are not but the MAGE are.
Overall, give me some reasons that why a new player should not start with a deck that easy to build up and have the best potential to be developed? the truth is the witchblade is the best well designed deck for most new players at this moment, if you really dislike it, go for anti-witchblade deck rather than complain here.

Yeah they can use most of the cards in eredan universe, true but they just using the same tricks that already used or discovered rather than inventing a new one.

To top that up, as previously stated by bleachman most of the witchblades out there sucks. And the other dude said they camp in training room, I might want to add up that too, they aren't just camping in training room but also in level room too, oftenly they played with maxed chars too to prey on those who tried to level up with their lowbie chars.

Every decks got potential in elo room, but what most of them do? Yep stay in levelling room and do what they do best

Ooh you want a reason too do you? here I'll give you a reason

First, it reduces the variety of deck that being played. Most other player out there currently facing 3 WB out of 5 match if not 4. It's very boring to have a match with the same kind of deck.

Second, too easy to play. Being too flexible can disrupt the balance of the game, that's in my point of view anyway. Courtesan is also flexible but they got what we defined as "Limits". So the effect of this leads to reason number 1.

Just my 2 cents here, every multi-classes especially mage-hybrid tend to have difficulty to chain spell with something else, even if the cards chain, it has lesser degree of effect. But WB looks make it too easy with mirrors and coffin. They got chain in the beginning. If all spell could be abused like that I'd want to see Wood protection + RoD on hailwalker if permitted to do so

Dernière modification par Limestone (24-02-2011 17:25:07)

Warhound90 · 24-02-2011 17:32:59

Erezil a écrit :

Agreed. Tired of seeing WitchBlades! how about some more Sap Hearts?! lol

I agree, I just started making a deck for the Hom Chai that is both effective and doesnt require me to deck myself to use

steven_allen · 24-02-2011 17:50:23

I wonder who in here uses Witchblades...a mystery?

magius · 24-02-2011 18:35:35

steven_allen a écrit :

I wonder who in here uses Witchblades...a mystery?

Look at the Witchblade Thread Witchblade still falls over to Zil Warriors anyway and discard. To be honest, there are other decks out there that are equally if not more powerful.

I understand Bleachman's gripe about seeing fully-levelled witchblade deck in Levelling room. They should just try for ELO instead.

Dernière modification par magius (24-02-2011 18:36:11)

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