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mist13 · 20-01-2011 04:50:40

Why do some cards like "scroll of weakness" have a cap effect. and cards like "items have a soul" do not. I've seen crazy combos that put characters at 22/27 with 16 def. And I as a tracker user have nothing to combat this. where is the cap on cards that can easily be pushed well over anything you can combat.

Basically I'd like to see the max placed on this card "items have a soul" and a few others with way to easy over kill ability.

bleachman · 20-01-2011 04:59:11

Instead of demanding a change to a pretty underpowered card that requires a big set up to even be effective, try negating it or defeating it before it comes into play.

Best friends for this cause are: [card]Anathematize[/card], [card]The Prestige[/card], [card]Obesity[/card]

mist13 · 20-01-2011 05:03:46

thats the whole issue. it's just to easy. and who is demanding? anyway. the first three turns I thought I had him on a perfect all he did was discard his hand. then the last three complete over kill and no damage take with three characters, i don't know if there is a card that negates this effect.

bleachman · 20-01-2011 05:04:50

mist13 a écrit :

thats the whole issue. it's just to easy. and who is demanding? anyway. the first three turns I thought I had him on a perfect all he did was discard his hand. then the last three complete over kill and no damage take with three characters, i don't know if there is a card that negates this effect.

I listed 3 cards that can negate the card in question. Hover over them with your mouse cursor to view them.

mist13 · 20-01-2011 05:05:37

I suppose you could remove his discard pile.

K i just noticed them.

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SlyTechs · 20-01-2011 05:20:49

wow, u havent seen Time to Die and Celerity combo, have you...or Last Word and Than the sword, on Pilkim turn 1...or Last Action, Void, Bolts lv 3...

goscar · 20-01-2011 06:11:54

Yes IHAS is stupidly good but it has counters so that supposedly makes it okay. Best thing to do is pack 2 [card]Anathematize[/card] and roll over it.

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LiQuiD · 20-01-2011 06:34:43

SlyTechs a écrit :

wow, u havent seen Time to Die and Celerity combo, have you...or Last Word and Than the sword, on Pilkim turn 1...or Last Action, Void, Bolts lv 3...

dont know how u managed to get bolts lvl3 into the discard pile before turn 1

bleachman · 20-01-2011 06:40:37

LiQuiD a écrit :

SlyTechs a écrit :
wow, u havent seen Time to Die and Celerity combo, have you...or Last Word and Than the sword, on Pilkim turn 1...or Last Action, Void, Bolts lv 3...
dont know how u managed to get bolts lvl3 into the discard pile before turn 1

He is referring to two scenarios. The first he lists as Pilkim in the first turn using The Last Word and Than The Sword to get an extreme boost in attack. The second one he mentions does not list any specific turn order. There he hints at the Last Word (I am sure he meant that and not Last Action...) + The Hungry Void to snatch up the discarded Lightning Bolts level 3.

mist13 · 20-01-2011 07:17:29

I've seen those too, pirate at 28/32 or something XP

mist13 · 20-01-2011 07:21:22

I feel like the game is going to be unbalanced before too long. did a little math and the numbers don't add up from the old cards to the new ones in terms of power and combos.

bleachman · 20-01-2011 07:53:51

mist13 a écrit :

I feel like the game is going to be unbalanced before too long. did a little math and the numbers don't add up from the old cards to the new ones in terms of power and combos.

Please don't double post, edit your previous comment should you have something to add and nobdy has posted after you yet.

On the topic: The game is not really THAT imbalanced. We have some powerful combos in pretty much every guild and it evens out things because nobody can be prepared against everything.

steven_allen · 20-01-2011 16:05:55

You know whats funny? There are two "unbalanced" combos on here that fall the the same COMMON card. I used to think that I didnt have room for [card]anathematize[/card] in me deck, until I realized how damn good it is. As a matter of fact, one of the keys to beating the current reigning ELO champ is, in fact, Anathematize.

Dracatis · 20-01-2011 23:25:24

I keep saying this and I will tell people read it. The deck restriction is the balance. IHAS is only super effective with Homchi and a deck full of items. So you have two large glaring weaknesses never mind what your opponent is going to play.

Last Word? Yea, good luck getting that.

If a card can be played by anyone it gets on average 3 points, spread among the stats. If it's restricted by class or race it's typically 1 or 2 points more. If it adds defense, it's typically a point or two less. If it has a huge cost like a deck made of items it tends to be that much more powerful. It's all a balancing issue and it does work.

The powerful cards get you to play certain deck types that they can monitor and figure out if it needs something more or more of a counter. It's easy to find something OP because all the top players will be using it as soon as it's discovered. This obviously isn't from what I hear in the top ranks because of the cards mentioned.

Yes and Anathematize can counter a lot of cards, not just IHAS. A Warrior's Fury(and the other versions), Burn in Hell, Arcanium, Panic, Watcher (and it's other versions), A New Beginning and more. I'm not even going to start listing what Obesity can counter.

steven_allen · 20-01-2011 23:29:02

Every single action card in the game.

Raeil · 23-01-2011 04:20:25

for the record, the +1 attack order bonus, both characters having 11 powder, and a love/war combo i was able to boost [card]Armada[/card] to a 31/31 for one attack. While it was amazing fun to look at, it's really situational.

Dernière modification par Raeil (23-01-2011 04:20:58)

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#1 20-01-2011 04:50:40

over kill.

#2 20-01-2011 04:59:11

Re : over kill.

#3 20-01-2011 05:03:46

Re : over kill.

#4 20-01-2011 05:04:50

Re : over kill.

#5 20-01-2011 05:05:37

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#6 20-01-2011 05:20:49

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#7 20-01-2011 06:11:54

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#8 20-01-2011 06:34:43

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#9 20-01-2011 06:40:37

Re : over kill.

#10 20-01-2011 07:17:29

Re : over kill.

#11 20-01-2011 07:21:22

Re : over kill.

#12 20-01-2011 07:53:51

Re : over kill.

#13 20-01-2011 16:05:55

Re : over kill.

#14 20-01-2011 23:25:24

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#15 20-01-2011 23:29:02

Re : over kill.

#16 23-01-2011 04:20:25

Re : over kill.

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