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#1 05-01-2011 18:47:42

bubuniu
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Nomad Deck advise

I'm currently trying some Desert Nomad deck. I'm pretty low in cash as i do not buy feez (I got some free and use them to get Theurgical One trophy).

Currently I'm using [card]Youss[/card]/[card]Aziz[/card] (leveling them to get [card]The Sphinx[/card]) and [card]Orzine[/card]. I got [card]Ahlem[/card] and [card]Malika[/card] full.

I'm thinking of using [card]The sphinx[/card], [card]Orzine[/card] (i like her beter than [card]Ahlem[/card]. she is good for me)and hmm... I have no idea yet. Maybe [card]Djamena[/card] or even [card]Malika[/card] (I used her and she is not that bad).

I do not have all the cards I need but before i'm gonna buy them, I would like to confirm the idea. I'm thinking of using th efollowing cards. Please do not start with exaltation and it's upgrades ot Tadda, fallback and other quite expensive for me cards. Getting some money is not that problem. It is rather matter of time but I will not have money for them in a long time! Maybe the combo [card]This tomb[/card] [card]...will be your grave[/card]. I'm using similar combination of cards now and it works for me quite well. Any suggestions?

2x [card]under the sun[/card]
1x [card]desert scimitar[/card] (propably I will not have money for more)
1x [card]spear of light[/card]
1x [card]temple sword[/card]
1x [card]Weapon Dance[/card]
1x [card]travel ration[/card]
1x [card]spiritual duel[/card]
1x [card]sorrow[/card]/[card]aura of faith[/card] (when i get it ^_^).
1x [card]scroll of weakness[/card]
1x [card]oath of faith[/card]
2x [card]pray for healing[/card]
1x [card]I hate brawlers[/card]
2x [card]armed and ready[/card]
1x [card]it is time[/card]
2x [card]deirf geiss's shield[/card]


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#2 05-01-2011 19:07:00

Poptolev
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Re : Nomad Deck advise

For a person who is short on cash you picked the WORST time to try and make a nomad deck.


"Of course they don't want that (adding more crystals to the game) to happen, because then the outrageous card prices would drop"

So MUCH stupidity in one sentence xD


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#3 05-01-2011 19:57:16

MoonFever
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Re : Nomad Deck advise

If you are using Dierf Geiss's Shield without his sword, Runic Gauntlet is better...

If you are building the Sphinx, I'd think Amhid and/or Lodir would be a better combo with him.

If you wanted to splash healing in there, then Ahlem or Djamena would be better...then you're working with full Temple Guardians...

Then save for your "This Tomb.." set, since they are a little pricier but doable...

But yeah...the week they release cards is not the time to start that deck if you want to be cost efficient...usually its better to wait 2-3 weeks afterwards...doesn't mean stop leveling the Sphinx, but don't expect to get cheaper Nomad cards for a little while...


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#4 05-01-2011 20:20:18

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Re : Nomad Deck advise

lets assume your final set-up is going to be Sphinx/Malika/Orzine

> For the Sphinx ... 2x [card]Fury potion[/card] is a good idea ... they are like what .. 370 ea and increase +6. He has 7/7 +1 from the order + 2 if you play 2 desert scimitars with Malika before you play him and +1 max attack from malika herself .. thats 16/16 if I calculated it right which is quite the power for a 2nd turner.

> For Orzine - You pretty much have no cards for her ... The ideal case is if you buy 3x Cursed Book (playing 2 at the 1st turn is +4 spirit, the healing after that gets ... UBER) or at least 3x Lithurgic Scrolls + some spirit based heals. With your cards Ahlem is better because at least his order heals. Which means you can use That's an Order/It's Time for a random 3 heal.

> For Malika ... hmm ... Her usefulness is limited to the Desert sword ... and you lack at it.

> I would buy a 3rd under the sun. It's chainable and -1 def to all is always a good thing

> If you dont buy feez this means you bought the spear now ... why the F did you bought the spear o.O. If you waited 1 month you could buy 3 and have some leftovers to buy some other stuff.

+ 3x Fury Potion
+ 3x Cursed Sorcerer's Book/Lithurgic Scrolls (ONLY ONE OF THEM NOT BOTH!), the book is better because you can activate both in 1 turn (having chain on cursed items) and you lose only 3 hp to have +4 spirit
+ some spirit based heals ... even Exaltation will work fine when you have 8 spirit ...
+ at least another Desert Scimitar
+ another Under the Sun
+ you may buy 3x Healing Balm to use 2 with the sphinx after the first battle, it nets +4-6 hp.

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Now ... what would I recommend.

I played a similar deck few weeks ago and IMO Youss and Aziz work better separated.

[card]Youss[/card]
[card]Aziz[/card]
[card]Ahlem[/card]

3x [card]deirf geiss's shield[/card]
3x [card]Guardian's spear[/card]
1x [card]It's Time[/card] (you will get more if you do the exterminator trophies, as soon as you get 3, add them all for ahlems order)
3x [card]Under The Sun[/card]
3x [card]Pray for Healing[/card] (Ahlem is there to heal after all)
2x [card]Armed and ready[/card]
1x [card]I hate brawlers[/card]
1x [card]oath of faith[/card] (it'll be a dead draw if you don't draw it in the first 3 turns)
1x [card]Spiritual Duel[/card]
1x [card]Travel Ration[/card]
1x [card]Spear of Light[/card] (you already have it, why not use it ? (with ahlem) )

The cards you need to buy are 1 shield, 3 spears 1 pray and 1 under the sun. (2200+3*450+230+600 = 4150)

The idea is to play Aziz/Youss first and combo the spear with the shield (the one can chain spears the other can chain armors, so both of them can play the combo) and on the 2nd/3rd turn either heal them or activate the staff (if you have neither ... just the spear).

Youss will be 12/14 (if you get the +4 bonus of the spear) with 4 def and Aziz will be 10/10 2 with a lot of health left.

Dernière modification par Poptolev (05-01-2011 20:27:50)


"Of course they don't want that (adding more crystals to the game) to happen, because then the outrageous card prices would drop"

So MUCH stupidity in one sentence xD


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#5 05-01-2011 21:25:48

bubuniu
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Re : Nomad Deck advise

No, I do not have [card]spirit of light[/card] yet. I will buy one later, when I will have money and it will be cheaper. I said that I want top use something like this and currently I use similar. I lack one [some cards I listed.

I'm using nomads for some time. I want some advise at them for future, just to know what to buy. Let's say I want to make an accepable deck within a month and half. I agree with cost efficient of the deck. I will wait till I buy some cards. Now most important is to get [card]the sphinx[/card]. Maybe I list  what I have now (I speak about cards that matter).

2x [card]under the sun[/card]
3x [card]it is time[/card]
1x [card]desert scimitar[/card] (foil; use the advent foil card just to have a fun of having foil [card]the sphinx[/card] later).
1x [card]armed and ready[/card]
1x [card]deirf geiss's shield[/card]
2x [card]healing balm[/card]
2x [card]pray for healing[/card] + one foil (bought very cheap) in sales.
2x [card]short sword[/card] (just for the begging usage)
1x [card]temple sword[/card]
2x [card]I hate brawlers[/card]
2x [card]oath of faith[/card]
1x [card]Spiritual Duel[/card]
1x [card]Travel Ration[/card]

Last level: [card]Malika[/card], [card]Orzine[/card], [card]Ahlem[/card]
2nd level: [card]Aziz[/card], [card]Youss[/card]
1st level: [card]Lodir[/card] (got him from advent pack)

Anyway, any advise I see here is nice. Fury potion is indeed a good idea with [card]the Sphinx[/card].

[card]Ahlem[/card] is nice (his ordwer is wonderful) but his defense is kinda low and he is often beaten pretty fast. Faster than [card]orzine[/card]. That is why I picked her. I used once [card]spiritual duel[/card] and [card]blast![/card] and killed opponent with one move... ^_^ Her kinda low attack is a good choice here.

So let's say I want to use [card]The sphinx[/card], [card]Orzine[/card]/[card]Ahlem[/card] and [card]Djamena[/card] (she can use almost every card that the other can use. That would made my deck more stapple. Does anyone knows what is needed to evolve her?).

What about [card]temple sword[/card] as cheap replacment? Temple Guardian activate it fast. And [card]the crystal's song[/card] (I have theurgical one trophy activated now - I unlocked market when o bought it with free feez)? That is like free theurgy at wish (depending what I would need to use again).

Dernière modification par bubuniu (05-01-2011 21:28:09)


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#6 06-01-2011 09:02:35

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Re : Nomad Deck advise

The classic Eclipse Kararine / Eclipse Iolmarek / Sphinx combo still works well. Although that deck does need at least 2x Solaris.

I've been thinking about Djamena too though. She might work with Eclipse Kararine and Eclipse Iolmarek too, which gives you a 9/12, a 9/13 and two healers to work with. That Spear of Light is also quite a good weapon.


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#7 06-01-2011 10:18:59

bubuniu
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Re : Nomad Deck advise

I have only one [card]Assassination[/card] from starter pack. It is too good card to get rid of it. Eclipse [card]Kararine[/card] would be kinda expensive for me. But with [card]Djamena[/card] and [card]Ahlem[/card]... Hmm... Tempting! But kinda expensive.

Well... Does anybody knows what cards are needed to evolve [card]Djamena[/card]? Because here characters have strong influence what the rest of deck will be.

Currently it will be [card]The sphinx[/card], [card]Djamena[/card] and [card]Orzine[/card]/[card]Ahlem[/card].

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#8 06-01-2011 11:02:23

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Re : Nomad Deck advise

bubuniu a écrit :

I have only one [card]Assassination[/card] from starter pack. It is too good card to get rid of it. Eclipse [card]Kararine[/card] would be kinda expensive for me. But with [card]Djamena[/card] and [card]Ahlem[/card]... Hmm... Tempting! But kinda expensive.

Well... Does anybody knows what cards are needed to evolve [card]Djamena[/card]? Because here characters have strong influence what the rest of deck will be.

Currently it will be [card]The sphinx[/card], [card]Djamena[/card] and [card]Orzine[/card]/[card]Ahlem[/card].

I didn't really mind losing the [card]Assassination[/card] card because there's a lot of things that can stand in for it. The Love/War combo and the Tomb/Grave combo both do better damage, and you can get full sets for the price of one Assassination. Unless you're looking to pack in daggers with your Nomads, but in my opinion the Spear of Light might just be the weapon of choice for these guys.


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#9 06-01-2011 11:35:29

bubuniu
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Re : Nomad Deck advise

Hmm... So what character you suggest? Beside the mentioned Eclipse/[card]The Sphinx[/card] combo?

Also i have now ~6k nad few cards to sell. Propablu i will reach 10k. Not that much but still enough for some cards.

Dernière modification par bubuniu (06-01-2011 11:37:12)


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#10 06-01-2011 16:37:36

Anihilate
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Re : Nomad Deck advise

Djamena , Iolmarek(Eclipse), Kararine(Eclipse)
Kararine: 1 Spirit, 9/13 attack, 0 Defense, 16 Health
Iolmarek: 2 Spirit, 6/6 Attack,0 Defense, 16 Health
Djamena: 0 Spirit, 10/12 Attack, 0 Defense, 16 Health

Thuergy
3 [card]Sacred Nova[/card]
2 [card]Solar's Anger[/card]

Actions
1 [card]Time To Die[/card]
2 [card]Assassination[/card]
3 [card]A Warrior's Fury[/card]
3 [card]Obesity[/card]
3 [card]Solaris[/card]
2 [card]Fallback[/card]
1 [card]Tadaa! You're a Bunny![/card]

Djamena, Amhid, Ahlem
Djamena: 3 Spirit,6/9 Attack, 0 Defense, 17 Health
Amhid: 0 Spirit, 7/10 Attack, 0 Defense, 19 Health
Ahlem: 2 Spirit, 5/8 Attack, 0 Defense, 17 Health

Thuergy
3[card]Divine  Light[/card]
3 [card]Sacred Nova[/card]

Actions
3 [card]This Tomb[/card]
3 [card]Will Be your Grave[/card]
3 [card]Obesity[/card]
3 [card]Solaris[/card]
1 [card]Anathematize[/card]
1 [card]Watcher[/card]


These are the best ones I've seen. The eclipse one was a bloody massacre, the Temple Guardian one made for a retardedly scary Amhid

Dernière modification par Anihilate (06-01-2011 16:38:35)


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#11 06-01-2011 16:40:26

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Re : Nomad Deck advise

I doubt he will be able to build them with his 10k budget hmm


"Of course they don't want that (adding more crystals to the game) to happen, because then the outrageous card prices would drop"

So MUCH stupidity in one sentence xD


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#12 06-01-2011 16:46:02

Anihilate
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Re : Nomad Deck advise

Sadly,There isn't a single deck worth playing that can be built with a 10k budget.

Dernière modification par Anihilate (06-01-2011 16:48:24)


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#13 06-01-2011 18:45:14

bubuniu
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Re : Nomad Deck advise

I will have 10k soon. As soon my sales will be sold. I'm not gonna be ale to increase it very much any soon. At least not to buy 2 [card]Assassination[/card] (I have one but I need it to evolve [card]Kararine[/card] eventually), [card]Sacred Nova[/card] etc. The decks proposed are way beyond my limits. I'm not looking for a winning deck. I enjoy the game even if I can not win or play ELO. I just need a deck I will enjoy using. I Enjoyed my very first Nomads loosing combo [card]Malika[/card]/[card]Ahlem[/card]/[card]Orzine[/card] more than my winning deck of Trackers. It was more fun for me!

So... Currently I'm going into:
[card]The Sphinx[/card]
[card]Djamena[/card] or [card]Kararine[/card] (propably eclipse but priest/marauder is tempting too but more costly for me)
[card]Ahlem[/card] (I tried him; He is better in this combo than [card]Orzine[/card])

2x [card]Under the Sun[/card]
2x [card]It is Time[/card]
1x [card]Travel Ration[/card]
1x [card]Oath of Faith[/card]
1x [card]Desert Scimitar[/card]/[card]Temple Sword[/card] (I will lack  [card]Desert Scimitar[/card] after leveling [card]The Sphinx[/card] so [card]Temple Sword[/card] could be just replacment before getting another one.)
1x [card]Spear of Light[/card] (I lack it now)
2x [card]Armed and Ready[/card] (I have one now)
2x [card]deirf geiss's shield[/card] (I have one now)
1x [card]I Hate Brawlers[/card]
1x [card]Weapon Dance[/card]
2x [card]Healing Balm[/card]
2x [card]Pray for healing[/card]
1x [card]Fury potion[/card] (I lack it now)
1x [card]Sorrow[/card]/[card]The Weight of Sin[/card]/[card]Aura of Faith[/card] (I have only [card]Sorrow[/card]. Another [card]Fury potion[/card] could be nice too).

So so far i cold get playable for me deck with the budget within a few weeks. Then I can focus on getting better cards like [card]Solaris[/card], [card]Obesity[/card] etc.

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#14 06-01-2011 18:48:37

Poptolev
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Re : Nomad Deck advise

bubuniu a écrit :

I will have 10k soon. As soon my sales will be sold. I'm not gonna be ale to increase it very much any soon. At least to to buy 2 [card]Assassination[/card] (I have one but I need it to evolve [card]Kararine[/card] eventually)..

Um ... there is one 0 difference between 10k and 2 Assassinations ...


"Of course they don't want that (adding more crystals to the game) to happen, because then the outrageous card prices would drop"

So MUCH stupidity in one sentence xD


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#15 06-01-2011 18:54:19

bubuniu
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Re : Nomad Deck advise

A typo... I corrected it.


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#16 09-01-2011 20:39:20

bubuniu
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Re : Nomad Deck advise

Thanks guys for all advises. Some of them are really nice and helpfull. In meantime I managed to get some more money. I sold my Fiol Scimitar, get normal and some other cards. I finished defeat 10 Merc deck trophy and in the end Do all 4 defeat 10 decks trophy, passed level 14 ([card]EPIC FURY![/card]). After I level. My deck will be this:

[card]The Sphinx[/card]
[card]Malika[/card]
[card]Orzine[/card] (Agressive build with some theurgies)

Items:
2x [card]Deirf Geiss's Shield[/card]
2x [card]Desert Scimitar[/card]
2x [card]Fury Potion[/card]
2x [card]Healing Balm[/card]
[card]Crown of the Border[/card]
[card]Lithurgic Scroll[/card]
[card]Travel Ration[/card]

Theurgies:
[card]Aura of Faith[/card]
[card]Epic Fury[/card]
[card]Pray for Healing[/card]
[card]Spiritual Duel[/card]

Actions:
[card]Weapon Dance[/card]
2x [card]I hate Mystics[/card]
2x [card]Under The Sun[/card]


With this build, [card]The Sphinx[/card] and [card]Malika[/card] are both 7/8. Not high but they can get some boost. [card]Lithurgic Scroll[/card] + [card]Aura of Faith[/card] on [card]Orzine[/card] gave her with  bonuses from Nomads friends 9/14. Pretty high and devastating. I used [card]Crown of the Border[/card] with success vs. [card]Tadda! You're bunny![/card]. This build gives me some strenght and I like it. With only 5 actions I'm kinda immune to [card]Obesity[/card] too.

Any more sugestions?

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#17 16-01-2011 01:14:08

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Re : Nomad Deck advise

bubuniu:

desert nomads are an offensive deck they are not meant to live long and while they live they are meant for big damage. however the priest healing is what gives them their only defence. equips are too slow, and don't give you the boost other actions cards do. get rid of malika and orzine and use kara/dj they hit fast and hard and your oppenent should be dead by turn 6


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#18 17-01-2011 08:32:50

bubuniu
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Re : Nomad Deck advise

I already have most of the Desert Nomads at max levels. I used the double EXP bonus. I already replaced Malika with Karaine (eclipse). I still does not have Djamena. She is to expensive for me now.


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