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silversaint · 08-12-2010 13:58:03

Update: Check Post 17 Please, and give suggestion

Thanks Guys

Dernière modification par silversaint (10-12-2010 18:56:25)

MoonFever · 08-12-2010 14:27:43

I'd still get Faceless for the synergy between him, Bloodsword, and Fenrath, even if you don't go full on Pack, which really the only necessity that's pricey are the Bestials which can be gotten for under 8K at times. The All is Fair in Love... ...and War combo is good in multiple decks, so is a wise investment either way. Otherwise, you may want to rethink your guild...Zil tends to be one of the more expensive, with Kotoba being cheaper (Trackers being one of the cheaper competitive decks, though not autowin)

silversaint · 08-12-2010 15:24:40

well i'd try to collect love & war for now <it might took forever though>
but if i go with faceless, wouldn't my deck become warrior deck?
and i thought my equipment wasn't that good for now...
any idea on how to build my deck nice and slow?
PS: if i changed into kotoba, should i buy the deck, or the cards one by one?

Dernière modification par silversaint (08-12-2010 15:26:18)

MoonFever · 08-12-2010 16:32:35

Smart Ass and Assassination are the only two cards in your deck the warriors can't use I believe.

By completing trophies, you get crystals pretty quick, so you may be able to get your Bestials faster than you think. Another way is to grind through training characters just for sale...with my Pack deck, I sold my first 2 level 3 Fenraths for an average of 30K crystals a piece...they're not going for that much now though...but the thought is there...

I would save for those chains that you will end up using more often...weapon dance and protect the weak...it will help your deck flow more. Put in That's an Order and/or It is time so that your characters experience faster. I would get the Love and War combo at an even pace...get one of one, then one of the other, so that they are more useful in your deck.

Once you get two of the 3 characters to level 3, you may want to start considering to grind out games to sell characters....I believe Bloodsword is the most valuable currently in level 3...so, either save your first bloodsword that you get to lvl 3 for your own use, then grind out another for sale...or just sell the first one to get the cards you need to improve your deck, and start a new one from scratch...It took me about 7-8 days of playing (both training room, and level rooms) to get a lvl 1 character to lvl 3 for selling. It can get repetitive, but is a sure way to get crystals.

Remember you have to buy a booster to open up the ability to sell cards on the marketplace (buying even one 4 card booster allows you to sell cards for 3 weeks). Take advantage of the "earn free fee'z" tab in the store...currently Peanutlabs is the most consistant for getting fee'z...

Second piece of advice...pick a deck and complete it before moving on...my attention span is too short, and at almost level 15, I now have 2 competed decks, and a bunch that need a few cards...because I bounce around too much...

If you were going to try Kotoba, since they tend to be friendlier on the wallet, buy the deck first. You will get a Blast Off! (which costs around 3-4K in the marketplace) and an Armed and Ready (which costs around 1-2K in the marketplace). Armed and Ready will work in the Pack deck too, until you can afford Fallback and/or Tadaa! You're a Bunny! (gotta keep lvl 3 Fenrath alive as much as possible).

Oh, and when I say friendlier on the wallet, I mean that you can have a decent Kotoba deck with lesser items...my current Kotoba warrior deck uses the Dierf Geiss items, which costs a lot less than Katanas and Wakizashis...so it CAN be just as expensive, but doesn't have to be...plus the Kotoba have Trackers, which can be a little cheaper...and decent Courtesans that are also warriors, so if you wanted to dabble into that deck type (which is expensive mind you), you can have the characters already leveled (Lord Galmara and Oogoe Kage).

silversaint · 08-12-2010 18:08:29

what do you mean by putting that's an order i could get more XP, is there any boost in that card? (sorry didn't read FAQ section that much)

and if i go to training room, is it going to give my card more XP or still the same as normal battle?

so right now i actually have opened some booster, and there's some of them i currently dont use and have high value...
do you think i should sell it, or just keep it for the next deck?

*Bought the kotoba for the defense boost

Dernière modification par silversaint (08-12-2010 18:29:06)

MoonFever · 08-12-2010 18:44:49

whenever a characters turn bonus goes off, they get an additional xp. So That's an Order and It is Time both earn you extra xp since they trigger your turn bonus.

the Training room gives you an additional xp per match to each card. Plus, a lot of players (myself included) will purposely pick your characters to fight on their order turn, so you gain additional xp.

The cards you get from your boosters that you aren't currently using.....well two thoughts...

1. sell the cards for crystals, so that you can complete the deck you want to currently play...when you are done playing that deck, sell that deck to buy the next deck you want to play.

2. keep the cards you have gotten, in case you want to use that decktype in the future. This is what I do...until I have more than 3 of a specific card, which then I sell it...

silversaint · 09-12-2010 03:49:32

lol lucky me, got 1 more armed&ready from advent wall...
so now i have spare money, which one to buy after love & war?
bestial first or dances with volk first? (my card still not upgraded yet)

also, how many love & war set needed? is 2 enough?
and which card should i ditch first and change it to love & war?

Dernière modification par silversaint (09-12-2010 03:51:05)

raelian · 09-12-2010 04:02:47

bestial > dances cause dances is only useful with lvl 3 fenrath

silversaint · 09-12-2010 12:10:26

so i was wondering, if i have the full deck, what's the % winning actually with this deck? coz last time i battled sap heart, and they went crazy like 18/18 every turn...
seems can't stand the damage?

raelian · 09-12-2010 14:01:06

in fact no one can but with a simple anatheme (about 100 crystals) they are done so if u really don't wanna loose against them use anathem

MoonFever · 09-12-2010 14:38:28

When I used my Pack deck (without any Dances mind you), my win percentage was around 70-75%. With Dances it would go up more, since I would be able to keep Fenrath alive longer to continue his bonuses.

One Anathemize kills that deck...meta that card, or just accept that you will lose to the Homchai deck when you see it, which has become rare, since it has a silver bullet.

silversaint · 09-12-2010 14:52:15

Now i have expanded my deck more like this:
Bloodsword (2)
Fenrath (2)
Faceless (1)

1 all is fair in Love
1 and war
2 Armed & Ready
1 Assasination
1 Bite
1 Blood ties
3 Fly off the handle
3 Fight!
1 i hate kotoba
1 Weapon Dance
1 Oh! i'm good
1 Healing Balm
1 self confidence
1 to lay bare
1 voodoo

it's really stressing me out that eventhough my winning percentage is bigger now, they still keep losing to some defense focused warrior deck (especially kotoba).
what's wrong with my build, and how to manage them for now?
is it 1 of the pack weaknesses?

kappa1uk · 09-12-2010 15:14:56

Your building a deck as you go. So there is nothing "wrong" with it. It just needs to grow some more. I really think you need to start adding the Bestial - makes a HUGE difference to your win %.

If you haven't already - get the other starter decks (especially the Kotobo one). There are some cards you can use in there.

You might want to consider getting one of the trophies from the store. If you can afford the 190 feez pick up the Time To Die card. With assassination this card is freaking EPIC. Will one shot A LOT of characters.

Stick with it - they were the first deck i built to full capacity - and i still use it occasionally.

Practice makes Perfect.

silversaint · 09-12-2010 16:12:04

i've looked at the market and seem cannot see our progress in the trophy... is there any way to see it?

MoonFever · 09-12-2010 16:14:06

lvl 3 Fenrath with Oh, I'm Good! will assist with getting through the defense buff decks...the Love and War combo builds onto this. You will find that you will be able to surpass most defenses. I never had issues with courts or kotoba warriors with my pack deck (once they had the experience and cards), though Noz mages gave me a hard time, since they could smoke Fenrath quicker than I could take advantage of his bonuses. Actually considered running a couple counterspells/magic shields/deflections in there just for them, but the spell blasting noz decks have faded back into the background since the last tourney ended. It's not that they were an autoloss, but relied too much on chance for me to win...double Rain of Deaths makes many 0 Spirit characters cry...

raelian · 09-12-2010 18:16:57

yeah the win ratio of a finished pack deck is like 3 times than before the cream on the team is the fenrath 3rd skill

silversaint · 10-12-2010 18:52:40

lol, got some generous people that sell "and war" and dexterity test cheap enough for me XD
now my deck is more like this, please give some suggestion if you feel i take out the wrong cards

Bloodsword (3)
Fenrath (2)
Faceless (1)

3 all is fair in Love
3 and war
1 Protect the weak
2 Armed & Ready
2 Bloodpack
2 Bestial
2 Dexterity test
3 Fly off the handle
1 Weapon Dance
1 treacherous

Dernière modification par silversaint (11-12-2010 10:45:25)

MoonFever · 10-12-2010 20:02:21

I've seen some people use 2 sets, I prefer all three myself.

silversaint · 11-12-2010 10:49:08

well, i've changed again my deck now, a step closer towards the end.
my Fenrath reached Lv 3, now upgrading new bloodsword from lv 1.
what i notice is that although the deck was awesome, i feel that it wasn't flowing enough...
at least i can say that the deck before this was more flowing.
with new deck i still have 10+ cards in my deck, while usually with the last deck it would be 0-5.
does my deck lack of chain card, or it's actually the pack playing method?

MoonFever · 12-12-2010 07:34:58

For chains, I usually use 3 Fly off the Handle and 3 protect the Weak...Bestial is a chain for 2 out of your 3 characters...that's usually enough...Love and War chain together

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