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#1 08-11-2010 18:38:02

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Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

Is it posible to make competitive deck out of cards cheaper than 1000 crystals? Corect answer is "hell no!!!" but it won't stop all those free players from trying, so we should help them and give sugestions.

My sugestion NR1 - cheap courtesans
Deck tries to abuse the fact Zil and Kotoba are 2 of most used clans in arenas and get +5 attack from "free cheers)

Characters
Ooge kage (warrior version)
Lord galmara (shadow version)
Hasna

Cards
Voodo x 3
three cheers to our champ x3
short sword x 2
simple dagger x 2
Blast off x 1
assasination x 1
armed and ready x1
its time x 2
potion of seduction x 2
Revelation x 1 (if you did that event its very good)
any 2 cards you like (dark light for galmara, under the sun for hasna etc....)

Deck is very open to improvements with better courtesan cards and better items, but getting + 7 attack out of 2 cards costing less than 1000 together (voodoo and cheers) is priceless.
Problems - weak against Noz, sap heart and mercenaries, a bit less weak vs nomads, But all those clans make less than 30% of all decks around, so its solid metagame choice.


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#2 08-11-2010 21:52:59

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Re : Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

I like this build, although I decided to go into the traditional way (Hasna, Angelica, Kimiko), since I got a Kimiko from a booster big_smile


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#3 08-11-2010 22:31:25

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Re : Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

Angelica is worst courtisan of all them (Ok, her picture is pretty, but thats all). Even Ooge kage ability is more usefull, her stats are not stelar, and her clan combination not the best.


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#4 09-11-2010 00:13:54

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Re : Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

On the other hand:

- it can net a 2-life-bonus-recovery when [card]Overwhelming Victory[/card] is played;

- Gives an solid beatstick against Noz (the worst match for courtesans), when you use [card]Three Cheers to our Champ[/card], netting a possible +6 bonus;

- Allows the player to focus on marauder attack cards, which gives more options to the player, than swords and daggers, that can be "[card]Ascetic[/card]", ops, can be "[card]smash that wall[/card]", or can be "[card]Steal[/card]", among other options.


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#5 09-11-2010 01:20:18

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Re : Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

Now explain to me how Angelica uses "steal", I would like to hear that big_smile
Or smash that wall if we are speaking about what. And overwhelming victory gives her + 1 spirit and + 2 health, not the best combination.

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#6 09-11-2010 01:27:12

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Re : Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

Yeah, [card]Smash That Wall[/card] is warriors only, and [card]Steal[/card] is Zil only.


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#7 09-11-2010 02:24:26

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Re : Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

Politikas a écrit :

Now explain to me how Angelica uses "steal", I would like to hear that big_smile
Or smash that wall if we are speaking about what. And overwhelming victory gives her + 1 spirit and + 2 health, not the best combination.

steven_allen a écrit :

Yeah, Smash That Wall is warriors only, and Steal is Zil only.

Hum... Since I'm not talking about [card]Angelica[/card] itself, but the deckbuild...

I think that Kotoba-based ([card]Oogoe Kage[/card] / [card]Lord Galmara[/card] ) courtesan decks are too much dependant of weapons. The swords, also, have the drawback of wait a whole round to make effect. All the cards I mentioned could hurt this strategy by send the weapon to the graveyard, or worse, to opponent's character.

Marauder cards, instead, are more flexible. But it's just my opinion.

Politikas a écrit :

Angelica is worst courtisan of all them (...). Even Ooge kage ability is more usefull (...)

Again, is a option. For me, have more card options to play, in many situations, will be better than the -1 spirit.


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#8 09-11-2010 20:54:38

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Re : Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

Did some testing with this setup and it works quite well (tested with Lv 2 chars so not at full power).
Assasination has no place in this deck, its dead card too much of the time, and most of comboes gives bigger bonus. Adding should be third potion of seduction, or even a lapdance or 2. And overwhelming victory would do wonders in this deck if you have crystals for it.


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#9 15-11-2010 02:10:13

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Re : Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

kage is a kotoba and zil and crow, galmara is a kotoba and noz, hasna is a desert nomad and zil, it means that you can't play hasna with that 2 other chars at lvl 1

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#10 17-11-2010 16:02:46

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Re : Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

Politikas a écrit :

Did some testing with this setup and it works quite well (tested with Lv 2 chars so not at full power).
Assasination has no place in this deck, its dead card too much of the time, and most of comboes gives bigger bonus. Adding should be third potion of seduction, or even a lapdance or 2. And overwhelming victory would do wonders in this deck if you have crystals for it.

From my testing - and I tested both versions (i'll call them Kotoba-based (Galmara/Oogoe Kage/Hasna), and marauder-based traditional (Angelica/Hasna/Kimiko) ).

- A third [card]potion of seduction[/card] is a must.

- Agree with you. In the kotoba-based, [card]Assassination[/card] becomes a card that can be turned useless very easily. And, in this version, [card]Lapdance[/card] is a fine addition.

- [card]overwhelming victory[/card] does wonders in ANY version of courtesans deck. And is a card that can be purchased.


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#11 22-11-2010 18:25:17

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Re : Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

Tested on this version of the Courtesan deck. It is quite interesting to see the level of interaction from here. Even without [card]Manipulation[/card], I think this deck has a potential.

Instead of Hasna, why not [card]Marlok the Repentant[/card]? He is a Zil, each [card]Overwhelming Victory[/card] nets him a Spirit and able to cast some cheap mage spells like Lightning Bolt and Fireball from the starter pack. Even defensive mage spells will help his 1 Defense while forcing the opponent to discard during late game. With this, you can add [card] Treachery[/card] to force more discard goodness (since all your characters are Zil).

One thing great in this deck is [card]The Council's Decision[/card]. Played at the right time, it can counter an Action AND Item (Zil/Kotoba) or Action AND Spell (Zil/Noz). This card is a better version of Obesity for Courtesans since all your characters are Zil. Since it minus health, [card]The Ball[/card] will be quite nice to play as well.

Another note though, Three Cheers only work on characters that are still alive from my testing. So use it as early as possible and keep your defence cards for late game.

Just my 2 cents.

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#12 22-11-2010 19:03:40

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Re : Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

Marlok the repentant needs spells to be usefull, his damage is low, and order bonus is usefull only if you make deck around it.

Also fireball is cheap?...... Do we see diferent versions of market?


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#13 22-11-2010 19:19:06

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Re : Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

Politikas a écrit :

Marlok the repentant needs spells to be usefull, his damage is low, and order bonus is usefull only if you make deck around it.

Also fireball is cheap?...... Do we see diferent versions of market?

I'm saying the fireball from the startup deck not the market. Again, this is a suggestion as I am trying to playtest it myself smile.


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#14 22-11-2010 22:26:59

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Re : Decks under 1000 crystals: courtesans

If only 1 char in your deck can use a card you are asking for trouble, I already said it about assasination, and hasna is solid on her own. Marlok sucks on his own and needs at least 5 spells added to deck to be at least half usefull. And those 5 spells will be dead cards 66% of the time.


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