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#1 31-10-2010 21:33:13

Papa_Frita
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Abomination: why so difficult to create?

For those who doesn't know..

To create an [card]Abomination[/card] u need:

[card]Bigrage[/card] lv 2 + [card]Ergue[/card] lv 2  = [card]Cigue[/card] lv 3

[card]Soriek[/card] lv 2 + [card]Ergue[/card] lv 2 = [card]Mashtok[/card] lv 3

[card]Cigue[/card] lv 4 + [card]Mashtok[/card] lv 4 + [card]Watchmaker of Destiny[/card] lv 3 = [card]Abomination[/card] lv 5 -u keep the watchmaker-


that's a whole lot of lvling  and crystals invest.... i was wondering why people bother themselves training this guy, when in the end it is not THAT good...  i mean, it is good, but not as much as to make all the process of lvling him up worth it.

So my suggestion here is to rather make Abomination easier to up lvl, maybe by taking the watchmaker out of the process, or 1 lvl less to train for cigue and mashtok ..... or keep the process as it is and  give  abomination some good order effect and not a simple 1+1 bonus, or better stats

please make ***bip*** opinion.. and my apologies for my poor english

Dernière modification par Papa_Frita (31-10-2010 21:33:31)


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#2 31-10-2010 21:52:00

Seraph
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Re : Abomination: why so difficult to create?

The Abomination is ,overall, the strongest character in the game.

There is nothing wrong with him.

The only weird fact is that the Zils are the only guild to have lvl 6 and lvl 5 characters until now.


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#3 31-10-2010 22:06:50

Papa_Frita
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Re : Abomination: why so difficult to create?

Seraph a écrit :

The Abomination is ,overall, the strongest character in the game.

There is nothing wrong with him.

The only weird fact is that the Zils are the only guild to have lvl 6 and lvl 5 characters until now.

Abomination lv 5 has only + 1/2 attac more than, for example, iro the duelist lv 3 ..

how much time u spend on lvling each character? u do the math


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#4 31-10-2010 22:09:14

Rathedan
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Re : Abomination: why so difficult to create?

Iro doesnt have +8 attack combos though. Or Dagger master, or any of that.

Aboms a stud card, its well worth the levelling. if you can afford the deck to support him.


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#5 02-11-2010 20:56:56

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Re : Abomination: why so difficult to create?

Personally, I was curious too.  So, I created an Excel Spreadsheet that has ALL the characters listed.  EVERY SINGLE ONE in Eredan listed with their stats, and then has a field that averages their stats.  Not only is the max upgrade of Abomination at the top of the list, he is at the top of the list with regular average, and averages without HP.  Actually, both of his upgrades are at the top without HP, (didn't check since adding Mr. Mummy though, but doubt it's much different, even though the mummy is also a beast, but a very tricky turn activation.)

Funny thing is, The Shadow is right after Abomination.  The big thing to remember though is that they are almost purely stats, they don't have strange things added on to them such as effects, (like the Sap Heart.)


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#6 02-11-2010 21:41:58

Strashoy
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Re : Abomination: why so difficult to create?

You can upload that excel for the others? big_smile


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#7 03-11-2010 02:15:58

Akillics
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Re : Abomination: why so difficult to create?

That spreadsheet would be a fantastic tool. If there was a way for you to put it online and update it every now and then just almost as a database type thing I am sure that all of us in the Eredan community would appreciate it.


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#8 03-11-2010 12:31:59

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Re : Abomination: why so difficult to create?

Well, creating spreadsheets is a part of what I do for a living, so... it was rather easy, but not very pretty.  I guess I can make a little site for myself over on Webs and upload it there, then.  I was just getting tired of bouncing from one card picture to the next and just went ahead and put all the info on Excel.  It covers all fields except species, which I didn't think would be important until this last event occurred.


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#9 03-11-2010 13:37:12

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Re : Abomination: why so difficult to create?

Now, for a final point, this is why Abomination is so hard to get:
http://xenocards.webs.com/Card%20Lists/ … Values.pdf

Also, based on average values, the most powerful three characters for their max upgrade catagories are Golemarlock, Abomination, and the Shadow.


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#10 06-11-2010 06:03:24

Elf King
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Re : Abomination: why so difficult to create?

XenoZangotta a écrit :

Now, for a final point, this is why Abomination is so hard to get:
http://xenocards.webs.com/Card%20Lists/ … Values.pdf

Also, based on average values, the most powerful three characters for their max upgrade catagories are Golemarlock, Abomination, and the Shadow.

Notice that these are ALL Zil. There needs to be more balance in the game. I've seen some nasty things done with some very high level cards and some Noz D'ingard mages, that easily rival the destructive power of Abomination. However I think a lot of the Noz cards are capped too early. I'd like to see Anreyna expanded to be able to go to level 4 instead of stopping her at 2. It would be nice to see a Noz card called The Dragon since so many Noz card flavor texts refer to him. I think the Noz Dragon should be like Abomination in that it takes several cards to make him.


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#11 06-11-2010 13:48:13

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Re : Abomination: why so difficult to create?

Dragon is like a Diety. The prophet is the physical representation of the Dragon...kind of like the Pope. tongue


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