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#1 18-10-2010 09:52:58

hisuphola
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Help and Question Please and Ty

Greetings/Introduction(not "important")============================
Hi, I am rather new, only level 7 with Zil deck: mainly because they seemed most unique and definetly not the most powerful which I find boring. Have been doing a pretty decent job even came close to getting 10 wins in a row Trophy, but game lagged/glitched/bugged and would not let me click anything sad as it seemed to be trying to read the actions of the cards or w/e, which annoyed me since I really wanted that trophy and the fact woulda had 10 in a row more than likely 3 before that match if they counted the victories you get when a person leaves mad which I guess they don't as people would abuse this with friends or something hmm.  And the fact that the kotobo (which I assumed were most powerful from start) Seemingly beat me 80% of the time.
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Observation/Reason I need help===============================
I'm noticing this game Really hmm:( does not like making it at all easy to get cards. That is without spending real money or having hundreds of """friends""" on facebook to register to the game and possibly spending money, even with the trophy rewards compared to other games it seems very high, like other games I have seen you only need like either 10 or 20 "real money gems/credits..." and like 25-35 for the more advanced.
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Question/Help(MAIN THING TO READ)++++++++++++++++++++++

What is the Best Non-Real$ costing way to get new cards, mainly of Zil guild or maybe Mercenary.
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Things I have already read  To Try(PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTIN)
*Get Hundreds of Facebook """friends"""" to somehow register the game and buy stuff. (you can probably tell what I think of this... lol though I AM trying to do this)
    -Got I think 1 so far yay me, and he even bagged me a whole 10 smiletongue
*Buy the other starter decks (seem waist to me especilly since they cost 1200, and after all the time/ trophys I have made I only got 1880)
*Try and buy low sell slightly higher (If this is really possible, seems kind of wrong and unlikely to make much)
*Complete ""free"" offers (I Dispise these ""free"" things)
    -have done three that were actually 100% free, waiting on two of them and not going to get much anyways
*Just play doing your best to get the best rewards/trophys, hope you go against fairish odds, and nothing goes wrong (Rather Obvious and obviously doing though my luck is not that grand)
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Thank You For Any Help and I do appoligize for this Very Long Post, I just figured it all should be included and also to help reduce the amount of replies from either myself or others.


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#2 18-10-2010 13:02:02

Zurga
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Re : Help and Question Please and Ty

You have already listed all the legal ways to do.

Just to mention that the basic game is:
Kotoba is better than Zil
Zil is better than Noz
Noz is better than Kotoba.

When you will see the common level (after level 13), you will find all the players and a lot of others decks like Nomads, Courtesan, Trackers, Pack, Dragon Knight.


Collectionneur de cartes


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#3 18-10-2010 14:17:22

Seraph
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Re : Help and Question Please and Ty

I will quote myself:

Seraph a écrit :

Let me get straight to the point:

There is NO way you will ever be sucessfull without FEEZ.

Now , let me further explain.
There are 3 major ways of gaining crystals in this game:

1. Buying boosters and selling their content.
2. Buying cards, level them and sell them.
3. Buying cards and selling them for a higher price later on (the price varies depending on new releases, how many card are for sale at a given moment and such).

As you can see, all of these ways involve selling cards. And to sell them you need to buy boosters that are sold for feez. When you buy a booster you gain the right to sell your cards for 3 weeks.

It is important to say there is a way to gain free feez within the game. Check the free feez section in the BANK option. You will need to input some private info on third party sites and such, so it is up to you if you want to do it. Either way you need to buy at least 1 booster per three weeks to keep your crystal income going.


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#4 18-10-2010 14:35:27

paperbagdemon
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Re : Help and Question Please and Ty

i'm lvl 15 now and i think I'm doing well with my deck considering I'm not spending for this.

it is great that you have access to the offers, some countries don't. That means you can access the market without needing to shell out a few bucks.

it will be a real help if you can befriend some co-players who is willing to train and exchange trophy achievements with you, and by train i mean training outside the training room. characters gain extra points of experience everytime they're turn bonus is activated, non-character cards gain 1 experienced every game and an additional point everytime they are played, just have to arrange the game so the characters would stay alive as long as possible and gain extra points using "it is time" and "that's an order".

leveled cards sells a couple thousands of crystals more at the market.an apostle of destiny for instance can be bought at around 500 crystals and sells to more than 30,000 when grinded to near lvl3(you can't sell her if you level her to 3), non-character cards that lvl-up can also be grinded i found that you can grind any card if you include dragon's wit to you deck but that means you also have to add a noz affiliated character. you should also hold on to your feez until the new set of weekly cards are released, new cards tend to be overhyped and sell for ridiculous amount of crystals.


hell is when you drew 3 arcaniums at round 1


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#5 19-10-2010 00:18:15

hisuphola
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Re : Help and Question Please and Ty

Thanks for all the help, figured that it would take a lot of careful buying and selling, but was hoping there was something I was missing...

So is it that this one really needs the money, because from the other card games I play their offers are WAY better?

Tokyo Heros: EASY to get New cards
  *Credit costs: 10 for 3 & 35 for 10(1 EPIC guarnteed)
   * Game Money: 700 for 1 random

***biiiiipppp*** bip: Not to easy, but not Overly hard
   *Credit costs: 20 for 3 & 25 for 3 better & 50 for 8 (least 1 rare guarntee) & 295 for 30 (4 rares guarnteed)
     *Reward: every 5 levels free leader card(same card for all players), lottery (get free ticket each day + other easy ways to get tickets), Rarely missions reward cards

This/Eredan
    *Credit Costs: 120! for 4 & 195!! for 1(good picked card) & 400!!! for 12 (set variety/chances in it)
      *Game Money: ~3000-~30000 with Level Req. for 1 (picked card)


Also Uno (technicaly a card game roll though no such thing as new cards it does have EASY "credits" which do One of the uses new cards do, aka make it more fun/interesting though granted not as much as a new card does)


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#6 19-10-2010 01:13:18

steven_allen
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Re : Help and Question Please and Ty

Well, the game is only 6 months old for one.  More types of offers could come in the future.  And second, there are tons of players who have decided that its worth it to pay, or to at least do some free surveys.


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#7 19-10-2010 04:51:48

hisuphola
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Re : Help and Question Please and Ty

Just Had to laugh at that, "worth paying"  lol:lol::lol: you know for Everything including odd, disgusting, cheap, etc... things there are Lots of people that Will, "Find it worth it", and pay for it.
Or if you want to keep it game wise examples, pretty much all rpgs have items and what not being sold for ridiculos amounts, like diablos were crazy.

So in other words people finding it, "Worth paying", is not really a valid point at all, nor does it make it right.

BUT I did not know this game was so Entirelly New which is a pretty good reason, though idk how old ***biiiiipppp*** Heros is; did not think it was to old.


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#8 19-10-2010 05:39:23

zuran2000
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Re : Help and Question Please and Ty

***biiiiipppp*** bip has been out for 4 years

you also forgot to mention the fact that even though eredans cards cost more 'credits' or whatever currency each game uses, they cost less in cash per credit

it's not as huge a difference as you seem to think it is

also, who cares how many cards you get in ***biiiiipppp*** bip..you can only use 4 at a time, it's barely even a CCG

edit: and the starters are definitely worth buying, you cannot sell the cards from them in the market, but they contain cards worth far more then the starters cost in crystals

Dernière modification par zuran2000 (19-10-2010 05:41:03)


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#9 19-10-2010 06:23:59

SmokinHot
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Re : Help and Question Please and Ty

To address the mentioning of ***biiiiipppp*** bip. I found it fun for a very long time, but it boils down to a guessing game of what the other player is going to do. Guess wrong and you lose, but if you guess right more than once per game and you might win. If you made a mistake, tough nuts because there are no second chances in that game.


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#10 20-10-2010 08:07:55

hisuphola
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Re : Help and Question Please and Ty

Wow ***biiiiipppp*** been out 4 years, figured it been out like 1 year.., but as said did not know how long it been.

Also yes a lot of ***biiiiipppp*** is based on thinking what the other player going to do/did like poker, but it is a lot more to it than that (though it is mostly high amount of math in most ways). I mean if you going to say that than at least it does not boil down to die rolls or when you recieve useful/good cards which this game Is like 90% of, like I can't think how many times I saw either me or the other player roll lowest entire match and other roll high-highest or how many matches I have done were one does not get chain cards entire match or only at ending part. NOT that I am saying this makes game aweful, I love Real Rpgs, which this basicaly is as close as a "free" card game can get.

Credits Cost May Cost Near same (still bit More), But I was talking more of the lines of the fact you can get the "credits" in those games a Heck of a Lot Easier IN GAME (NOT PAYING REAL $ sad ) ----In other words they should up the rewards to the equal value of ***biiiiipppp***'s/Tokyo's. Because as those games show, there will still be Plenty of people paying lots still. BUT if this game does drastically need the $$, I can understand that.


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#11 21-10-2010 05:44:20

hisuphola
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Re : Help and Question Please and Ty

Ok guess I misunderstood one of the best ways to make simple game money sad hmm ..., so you can't even buy and than after sell cards?_?; was going to try and make like a couple hundred selling like 2-3 cards back.

Do you have to pay real money for the booster packs or w/e and than sell those quicky for game money??
    *If so that is completly odd and guess this game realy needs $$.
-- if not what am I doing wrong as when I try and sell them back it takes me to the bank to spend real $?
        * Do I have to wait for 2 weeks before they sellable?


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#12 21-10-2010 05:59:45

SamsonXL
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Re : Help and Question Please and Ty

To be able to sell cards you need to buy at least one booster pack. IF you pay for the needed Fee'z or get them via the free Fee'z option is up to you.
Once you buy at least one booster you obtain the right to sell cards for three weeks. Just to make this clear, since it confuses some people: This is NOT limited to the cards in the recently bought pack, you obtain the right to sell anything you have.
Note that cards coming from starter decks or trophy rewards can't be sold at all. However, if you fuse one such card with a sellable one the result will also be sellable.

So if you want to keep on selling cards you have to buy at least one booster every three weeks.


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#13 21-10-2010 20:27:29

hisuphola
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Re : Help and Question Please and Ty

ooooooo... so that why the person before said you will not be able to be successful if you don't spend real $ and buy booster packs... O well when I start failing badly I guess I will just switch to all the other games not needing money Crazy badly, and then maybe eventually this game will make enough $ to have better deals/better rewards/make cards sellable whenever you please.


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