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Schnuffeline · 21-04-2010 14:13:51

So, ich kupfer jetzt mal ganz frech aus den PV-Forum ab ;o)

Dieser Thread dient dazu, Vorschläge & Verbesserungen zu posten bzw. neue Ideen niederzuschreiben.

Ich lass direkt erstmal den ersten Vorschlag los - ich würde mir im deutschen Bereich ein etwas gespalteneres Forum wünschen.

Wie wär's mit einer Uservorstellung? Irgendwas, um sich untereinander etwas mehr zu beschnuppern?
Ja, ich fall mal wieder mit der Tür ins Haus - sorry *gg*

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Dernière modification par Allizze (26-05-2010 13:00:29)

Allizze · 08-05-2010 14:47:38

Wenn das mit der Forenspaltung machbar sein sollte, würde ich mir eine Art Eredanfreie Zone wünschen (bei OMD nennt sich das "Stammtisch" und enthält diverse Threads zu allen möglichen und unmöglichen Themen), schließlich gibt es genug Dinge, die uns auch außerhalb des Spiels interessieren ^^

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Sycamore · 14-06-2010 10:39:08

Would a FAQ in German listing the techniques and the way to find them be useful ?

I made one to sort mine, so I could translate them and add those listed by Enkie in the new techniques FAQ of the French section.

(I hope this is the right topic, for I didn not quite understant the first post and the automatic translators I had to use were quite awful ^^')

Allizze · 14-06-2010 11:09:59

yes, here you're right ^^

I should extend your suggestion...
I'm working on a FAQ for the techniques (some explanations, how to use them etc. -> the State (Ètat) isn't explained really good in German, so we really need more than just a list), but I think your list would be useful as a third or fourth post in the FAQ.
I'll tell you when it's possible to post your list.

Sycamore · 14-06-2010 19:29:12

In this case, there would be two FAQ, one explaining how to use the techniques, which effect does what and so on, and another one explaining what techniques there are available and where to find them (like the French list) ? Even if they are in the same topic I mean.

Anyway, Enkie sorted the techniques first by the way to obtain them (Sorcerer, quests and specific to a nation), then by type (defensive, offensive, neutral, Titan), and finally what seems to me to be at random (but it may be something else which I did not see, perhaps the order they are listed in the technique page ?).

While I sorted them only by effects : first the general type of effect (boosts/bonus, states and damage), then by particular effect in (boost force, boost defense, etc in the boosts, state sleep, state poison, etc for the states, and so on), and finally by "power" (not the power of the technique, but the rather the efficiency : the boosts of the same kind are sorted from the more powerful to the least for example). I also thought of adding colors for the type of the techniques (offensive, defensive, neutral, titan), but since I shall add their pictures and since each picture is circled with a color according to the type of the technique, that is not so useful as I thought, so I shall see later.

Which one would you find most convenient for a list merging the techniques and data of both lists ? I began with mine but I can still change if you like the other better

By the way, I just saw that either the names of the states are not translated in english or they do not appear for me : instead of « état poison 70% » for Cyanure I see « state 70% » and « Zustand 70% », and instead of « état aveugle 40% » for Juste une illusion I see « state 40% » and « Zustand 40% ». Is it only me ?...

Dernière modification par Sycamore (14-06-2010 19:32:47)

Allizze · 14-06-2010 19:58:37

I'll look at Enkie's list the next days (so much to do in real life at the moment -.-). I don't know how useful the sytem is, so I have to check. I think the users should decide, that's why I won't choose "the one and only" system right now.

By the way, I just saw that either the names of the states are not translated in english or they do not appear for me : instead of « état poison 70% » for Cyanure I see « state 70% » and « Zustand 70% », and instead of « état aveugle 40% » for Juste une illusion I see « state 40% » and « Zustand 40% ». Is it only me ?...

That's what I meant. Most of the German users don't know how to use the techniques best because we don't have enough information about them.

Sycamore · 14-06-2010 23:27:24

I see... There is supposed to be several different states, seven if I did not forget any, and all of them are translated by « state » as well in German as in English...

So how do you know if the technique you use casts a poison state or a blind state ? Except by looking for the technique in the French list to know which state it has and then in the French FAQ to know what the state does...

Maybe they forgot ? ^^'

While you make the FAQ, it would be better if I posted the list somewhere while writing it, in order to try some layouts and see how it looks. I could make a temporary topic, which would be deleted once there is somewhere to put the list, and maybe also post there an example of each way of sorting the techniques.

Also, the information written in the French techniques FAQ about the effects were made by players and do not seem to be accurate, for it was repeated several times that some effects did not work that way at all. So, we do not really know how they work either, and no one ever answered to give an official confirmation or correction to the hypothesis we make ^^'

Sycamore · 15-06-2010 00:24:26

Techniques sorted in Enkie's list :
Techniques that can be bought :
Special :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Defensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Offensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Neutral :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Techniques obtained in reward from quests :
Defensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Offensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Neutral :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Titan :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Techniques obtained in reward in the arena :
Defensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Offensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Neutral :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Mercenaries techniques
Defensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Offensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Neutral :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Titan :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Zïl techniques
Defensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Offensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Neutral :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Titan :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Noz techniques
Defensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Offensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Neutral :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Titan :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Kotoba techniques
Defensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Offensive :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Neutral :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
Titan :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain

Sycamore · 15-06-2010 00:27:50

Techniques sorted in my list (by effect) :
Bonus in health and mana :
Mana bonus :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
Life bonus :
Life bonus without mana cost :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
Life bonus with mana cost :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the more to the less health per mana)
Bonus in the six skills :
Strengh bonus :
Strengh bonus in percentage :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
Strengh bonus in points :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
Defense bonus :
Defense bonus in percentage :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
Defense bonus in points :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
Dexterity bonus :
Dexterity bonus in percentage :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
Dexterity bonus in points :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
Intelligence bonus :
Intelligence bonus in percentage :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
Intelligence bonus in points :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
Speed bonus :
Speed bonus in percentage :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
Speed bonus in points :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
Dodge bonus :
Dodge bonus in percentage :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
Dodge bonus in points :
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those giving the higher to the lower bonus)
State :
State Piquouse
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those having the higher to the lower percentage)
State Dodo
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those having the higher to the lower percentage)
State Aveugle
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those having the higher to the lower percentage)
State Peureux
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those having the higher to the lower percentage)
State Poison
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those having the higher to the lower percentage)
State Igloo
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those having the higher to the lower percentage)
State Barbecue
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those having the higher to the lower percentage)
Damage
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
- Technique (Effects) => How to obtain
(Techniques sorted from those causing the more to the less damage)

Dernière modification par Sycamore (15-06-2010 21:10:16)

Sycamore · 15-06-2010 00:31:34

Here are two previews of the way in which the techniques are sorted in the two lists, with every criteria used. I think there is no need to put real techniques, it would take a lot of time and not make much difference ^^'

The main difference is the general way of sorting the techniques : by effects or by the way to get them. Apart from that, Enkie's list is sorted on several levels (first the origin of the technique and then its type) while mine on several levels of the same criteria (from the general type of the effects to their more precise aspects). In both some techniques are noted several times. As for looking for techniques without knowing their names, Enkie's list allows one to find easily the techniques that are obtained in the same way (by the quests of the same place for exemple) without having to search for the name of the quests or the place like in mine, while my list enables one to find easily techniques that have the same effects (I do not know how to find that in Enkie's list since I never thought to try).

Personally, I often search for techniques that have this or that effect, without knowing their names (on the contrary, I look for them to know which techniques doing this effect there are) so that is why I used this method to sort the techniques : to be able to find them by effect easily.

But that is just me, I do not know if you would look for techniques by effect or by the way they are obtained, so I just show you both and let you choose

Edit : Well, you still can say which you prefer yourself, it would be at least one vote ^^

Allizze · 15-06-2010 21:46:11

Okay, I've seen enkie's list and your suggestion... I would prefer a third way (which includes some points of both systems).

I'll make a mask for my suggestion and show you tomorrow (just in case you still want to help).

Sycamore · 15-06-2010 21:56:53

Well, if it is sorted by effect I think it better to be only sorted by effect, unless you find something which can be used conveniently ^^'

If not, I can make the list sorted by effects, and then we sort it another way somewhere else so that we have two lists with two ways of finding the techniques.

You can see what it looks like in the temporary topic too, I have begun to add the techniques

Sycamore · 15-06-2010 22:05:20

And now you also have an alphabetical list in the first post

Allizze · 15-06-2010 22:14:20

The alphabetical list is really important, one of the points I wanted to add ^^
(but I think it's enough to write where they're to find... too much information in an alphabetical list isn't useful)

Today I can't think about that, sorry. I'm way too tired.

Sycamore · 15-06-2010 22:42:55

Yes, it is too cluttered even now with so few techniques. Maybe only an index would be better, with only the name of the techniques so that each fit on one line. And a ressearch with the name of the technique in the later posts would give the details.

Sycamore · 16-06-2010 10:41:08

I posted what I knew about the states after the list of techniques, though that is not much, in case it helps.

Sycamore · 24-06-2010 21:16:36

Sorry for my absence, I had not much time the last week. Now, however, I shall be able to complete the technique list.

If the list seems to be still at the same point, that is because I worked on a txt file, and there was not enough techniques yet to post the list. Nevertheless, it progresses

Edit : Do I still go on in the temporary topic or did you finish the FAQ ?

Allizze · 24-06-2010 21:33:40

At the moment I only write a list with the techniques I noted by myself. So there are a lot of techniques left, if you still want to help

Sycamore · 24-06-2010 21:44:23

I go back to the list then ^^

Kamyra · 15-07-2010 10:14:17

Allizze a écrit :

Wenn das mit der Forenspaltung machbar sein sollte, würde ich mir eine Art Eredanfreie Zone wünschen (bei OMD nennt sich das "Stammtisch" und enthält diverse Threads zu allen möglichen und unmöglichen Themen), schließlich gibt es genug Dinge, die uns auch außerhalb des Spiels interessieren ^^

Besonders eine Frustecke wär schön.
*schnief*

Könnten wir nicht erst mal nur so Threads machen?
Irgendwie ist es hier bei uns doch schon recht tot. Oder?
So ein allgemeiner Laberthread wäre doch schön.
Trau mich bloß nicht, einen aufzumachen.

Allizze · 15-07-2010 10:45:35

mach ruhig, ich hab kein Problem damit

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