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#1 17-07-2012 07:21:57

MrLordi92
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Noz-Zil Control

So after playing Zil Discard for a while, I got sick of it.  I toyed around with the idea of using Courtesans instead of the normal Circus layout, and came up with this list, which is doing fair enough with an 8-2 record. 

The Characters:
[card]Marlok the Repentant[/card]
[card]Councilor Ishaia[/card]
[card]Doyen Verace-Councilor[/card]

The Spells:
1 x [card]Beyond Vision[/card]:  It's got some fun synergy with Mental Siphon

1 x [card]Breaker[/card]:  I never thought to much of this card before playing it.  Simply put, this card is sick.

2 x [card]Double Clay[/card]:  Pretty much an auto-include if you're playing Mages.  Plus, you know, on Ish it gives +5 Defense instead, which is nuts.

2 x [card]Ice Barrier[/card]:  Mainly for Ish to play to give some sweet global buffs.

2 x [card]Luminosity[/card]:  What's a control deck without counterspells?

1 x [card]Mental Prison[/card]:  Niche control card for Mages.  Might want another one.

1 x [card]Mental Siphon[/card]:  We all know why this is here.

The Actions:
2 x [card]Magic Servant[/card]:  Recycles cards and gives a boost against physical and magical attacks.

2 x [card]Manipulation[/card]:  With the Ish having four guilds and Doyen having all of the ones present in the fight, this seems like another good way to deal with attackers.

1 x [card]Spirit Master[/card]:  Recycles cards and can get rid of annoying ones in your opponent's graveyard.

1 x [card]The Ball[/card]:  Everyone gains a crap-ton of life.  I'm game.

1 x [card]The Prestige[/card]:  Seems like a good way to get rid of troublesome cards, in some cases before they even get to play them.

3 x [card]Treacherous[/card]:  The only other way to make them discard other than Mental Siphon.

The only real problems I face are against Mages.  I feel like I have too much defense against Physical attackers, so when I face Mages, I have so many dead cards and no way to defend myself.  Comments and suggestions are always appreciated.


"Some say there's no subtly to destruction.  You know what?  They're dead." ~ Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

"One footstep among many is silent.  One footstep alone is deafening."


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#2 17-07-2012 18:52:21

skadooosh
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Re : Noz-Zil Control

[card]Overwhelming victory[/card]

a global spirit buff can always be useful against mages


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#3 17-07-2012 20:20:32

MrLordi92
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Re : Noz-Zil Control

skadooosh a écrit :

[card]Overwhelming victory[/card]

a global spirit buff can always be useful against mages

And it heals the two Councilors.  Can't believe I didn't think of that.  Thanks for that little addition.


"Some say there's no subtly to destruction.  You know what?  They're dead." ~ Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

"One footstep among many is silent.  One footstep alone is deafening."


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#4 21-07-2012 06:00:52

MrLordi92
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Re : Noz-Zil Control

Question:  Is Indigestion worth playing either along with or in place of Treacherous?  Does them gaining one card back from their graveyard give them a chance when I can just counter it potentially?


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"One footstep among many is silent.  One footstep alone is deafening."


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#5 21-07-2012 07:28:27

genesyx
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Re : Noz-Zil Control

MrLordi92 a écrit :

Question:  Is Indigestion worth playing either along with or in place of Treacherous?  Does them gaining one card back from their graveyard give them a chance when I can just counter it potentially?

IMO Indigestion is worth playing along Treacherous, but never replace it. Even then I wouldn't throw in 3 Indigestions in a deck.

Most of the caste decks today have a few key cards they run on, and giving them the ability to reuse those cards is just too much from a 2card discard.


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#6 22-07-2012 06:10:38

MrLordi92
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Re : Noz-Zil Control

genesyx a écrit :
MrLordi92 a écrit :

Question:  Is Indigestion worth playing either along with or in place of Treacherous?  Does them gaining one card back from their graveyard give them a chance when I can just counter it potentially?

IMO Indigestion is worth playing along Treacherous, but never replace it. Even then I wouldn't throw in 3 Indigestions in a deck.

Most of the caste decks today have a few key cards they run on, and giving them the ability to reuse those cards is just too much from a 2card discard.

I guess it's situationally good.  I wouldn't play 3, either way.  Now that I'm thinking about it, if Ish played it, would they discard four cards and pick 2?


"Some say there's no subtly to destruction.  You know what?  They're dead." ~ Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

"One footstep among many is silent.  One footstep alone is deafening."


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#7 22-07-2012 07:51:44

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Re : Noz-Zil Control

MrLordi92 a écrit :

if Ish played it, would they discard four cards and pick 2?

absolutely...


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#8 23-07-2012 12:21:30

MrLordi92
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Re : Noz-Zil Control

skadooosh a écrit :
MrLordi92 a écrit :

if Ish played it, would they discard four cards and pick 2?

absolutely...

sad  No bueno.


"Some say there's no subtly to destruction.  You know what?  They're dead." ~ Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

"One footstep among many is silent.  One footstep alone is deafening."


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#9 23-07-2012 12:24:59

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Re : Noz-Zil Control

Helping your opponent recycle his best cards. that will be a problem.

Dernière modification par steeliebob (23-07-2012 12:25:42)


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#10 27-07-2012 00:21:38

mogellabor
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Re : Noz-Zil Control

Hi, I'm german so please don't wonder about little grammar mistakes

I saw your Deck and built it. I added some more cards and it makes much fun!
I use this cards:

(Same Characters)

1x [card]Beyond Vision[/card]
1x [card]The secret of the crow[/card]
1x [card]The Ball[/card]
1x [card]Mental Prison[/card]
1x [card]Mental Siphon[/card]
1x [card]Breaker[/card]
1x [card]Dragon Sacrifice[/card]
1x [card]Overwhelming Victory[/card]
1x [card]Spirit Master[/card]
1x [card]Double Clay[/card]
2x [card]Manipulation[/card]
2x [card]Magic Servant[/card]
2x [card]Luminosity[/card]
2x [card]Ice Barrier[/card]
3x [card]Treacherous[/card]

(21 cards)

But I experienced that it is more Discard than Control...

Dernière modification par mogellabor (27-07-2012 00:25:50)


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