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#1 10-04-2011 09:41:06

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Stand alone software

Hi there, i'm just newbie here.. I have been playing this game for 6 months. the problem is still the same.. it's really hard to load the entire cards picture in a browser.. my question is : why don't you make stand alone software for this awesome TCG?  yikes

edit : a lot of bugs on elo room sad  timeline running it self when i wanna chose my last triumph card :'(
ah, maybe you can fix it with stand alone software yikes

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#2 10-04-2011 12:34:58

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hey i have same problem with u, cant choose my card in last turn yikes


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#3 10-04-2011 12:36:02

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i agree with the software idea. it will decrease server load also..


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#4 10-04-2011 12:40:18

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jonni way a écrit :

hey i have same problem with u, cant choose my card in last turn yikes

yikes bad luck sad

ACHILES a écrit :

i agree with the software idea. it will decrease server load also..

^ absolutely agree smile


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#5 10-04-2011 14:12:09

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Like this . . .
stand alone software not only fix some problems, but also increase game speed.
And perhaps it will the game popularity than just known as "facebook games".


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#6 10-04-2011 16:29:46

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The only problem I see on a standalone program is not the programming itslef to migrate it (since there are games that work pretty well as a standalon flash app) but, and here I'm thinking as a developer, the antihacks.

Let's be honest, with flash+web you can do a lot without complicating yourself on antihack solutions because the browser is acting as some kind of firewall (some better than others) and keep those flash apps and the operative system - or any other application - separated.
With an standalone app. you have to think about programs that will try to be the man-in-the-middle and capture not only the code but send messages as well.

One example:
With a standalone app. I can read the "signal" received by the program when buying Fee'z and forge an app to send it.
For that reason there are lots of games (Puzzle Pirates, PoxNora and other SOE games like FreeRealms, etc.) that deal with "money" by web and the game is purely to play.

So you are asking them to create that mix, and that is a hell of a programming on its own.

I rather have them improving the actual Flash than working on a standalone app; although if they are already doing it, well, that would be awesome!


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#7 10-04-2011 17:38:41

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playing eredan in a stand alone app is not good especially for players like me whose computer is deep frozen...


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#8 11-04-2011 00:43:10

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LenardCzar a écrit :

playing eredan in a stand alone app is not good especially for players like me whose computer is deep frozen...

Flash very likely needs more resources than a standalone client (unless someone decides to go for DX11-powered Rain of Deaths). So +1.


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#9 11-04-2011 04:24:19

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i gree with this
may be feerik should develop a client version for this game
so that people with low internet connection (shuch as me tongue) can play the game with out connection problem

sometime it just suck, cant pick a card on your turn while on elo room T_T


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#10 11-04-2011 04:26:05

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This has been suggested often enough. And I do not see why it should be too difficult to implement a payment system online in browser form and pure play with a client. It may be messy but many other games are successful with this concept. Look at Dofus for example.


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#11 11-04-2011 10:46:43

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thanks for all replies smile
yes, what do we need is just a fast, stabil, easy load and antibugs of course.  i'm also agreed with what cryzak thinks as a developer (the antihack). but what do you think about the connection? yikes
it's just a suggestion, it all depends on feerik. hope for a good games app

btw, thanks for your reply matt tongue


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#12 11-04-2011 10:53:59

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The connection should be more stable as it can focus on more specific data transfer than it does at the moment. Currently we still get image data and all kinds of other information all at once. Having it installed onto your computer enables the game to pull directly from that source without actually using your internet connection.


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#13 11-04-2011 10:59:53

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bleachman a écrit :

The connection should be more stable as it can focus on more specific data transfer than it does at the moment. Currently we still get image data and all kinds of other information all at once. Having it installed onto your computer enables the game to pull directly from that source without actually using your internet connection.

yea, that's why i think about this. but i dunno about the apps.


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#14 11-04-2011 19:49:03

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bleachman a écrit :

The connection should be more stable as it can focus on more specific data transfer than it does at the moment. Currently we still get image data and all kinds of other information all at once. Having it installed onto your computer enables the game to pull directly from that source without actually using your internet connection.

Completely agree.

Having all the images and database on our own computer the loading times will decrease a lot and the games will go faster (cause the game will only send the parameter of each card).
The real headache will be assemble all the libraries in a format that no one can steal or play with the data, and lets be honest, not even WoW or RO are safe here (believe me, I still have an mpq extractor and all the data needed for a RO private server).

I know I'm saying a lot of bad things but all companies try to gain some money while doing incredible games.

The worst thing of doing this kind of app, imho, is not only the link between account and web (that's "easy") but, as I said before, the fact that they need to fully change the technology. They cannot use almost anything of the written code!
Why is that? Because flash is so poor as a programming language that the unassembling tools are so potent that is crazy (I have some of them and I can extract any video, image, see any parameter...).

In order to do it properly and avoid antihacks and all those things they would need to move to Java or similar... and that is a killer. Being optimistic it will take 3-5 months having 5 people that were in the original team (so they already know all the bits and tricks of the app.).
And that supposing they all have the same level with Java as they do with Flash.

So, again, yes I believe it would be a good (an incredible good) option but I also know we're asking a lot.


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#15 12-04-2011 07:46:23

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We will just have to see how things turn out, though I would prefer a client over browser.


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#16 12-04-2011 10:17:02

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+1, plugin based games on FF sucks.

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#17 06-06-2011 03:21:26

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it's all about speeding up the game... go go speeds up!!!


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