I have a feeling that this Tempus main weakness would be a super fast Noz Blast (Prophet-Archmage Anryenna-Erevent) deck (with RoD, Dragon's Breath and Drowning)...
Nah, their main weakness is other Tempus decks that get their [card]Celerity[/card]s, [card]Aging[/card]s, and [card]Heartrending Dilemma[/card]s first when they are worth anything. But, yeah, Noz Blast is another weakness.

It really does not matter who gets the dilemma's first. =P.

But really anything that can KO them fast will beat them. Noz mages make sense.
Could also be be pirate marauders with conquer or perish and narwhal. Just kill them faster then they kill you, If they want to defend the turn counter will go up slower, giving you more turns.

Santuros · 13-03-2012 02:39:11

well now that mercenaries won feerik can nerf tempus

hotfoot · 13-03-2012 05:33:54

Santuros a écrit :

well now that mercenaries won feerik can nerf tempus

seriously, nehants had KINDA an unfair fight on their hands.

Leorio · 13-03-2012 07:07:01

Well.... conquer or perish and rise of the dragon are banned at the moment from amnezy. So are weapons at will and most other one shot kill cards.

jackal19 · 13-03-2012 09:31:12

Leorio a écrit :

Well.... conquer or perish and rise of the dragon are banned at the moment from amnezy. So are weapons at will and most other one shot kill cards.

i think the devs are showing us how to face-roll XD or trying to observe if the tempus are truly are op

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soulst3al3r · 13-03-2012 10:01:22

jackal19 a écrit :

Leorio a écrit :
Well.... conquer or perish and rise of the dragon are banned at the moment from amnezy. So are weapons at will and most other one shot kill cards.
i think the devs are showing us how to face-roll XD or trying to observe if the tempus are truly are op

thats what i thought as well when I saw that they didnt ban any tempus card this week

magius · 13-03-2012 10:31:30

I guess they will have prove it Tempus made it to Top 20 But I think they will encounter hurdles when facing extreme aggro decks

Cossette · 13-03-2012 11:00:34

Nerf or not the deck are OP only specialize deck can handle that power... this will really change the game play of everyone.

Sapphon · 13-03-2012 12:05:28

Cossette a écrit :

Nerf or not the deck are OP only specialize deck can handle that power... this will really change the game play of everyone.

Not that much. Any fast high dmg deck destroy a Tempus (that's why they didnt trust high elo last week). Tempus wont change the game play of everyone (since many players are already playing fast high dmg decks). But it will change some things, yeah. The staff is already watching it closely.

soulst3al3r · 13-03-2012 12:48:01

Cossette a écrit :

Nerf or not the deck are OP only specialize deck can handle that power... this will really change the game play of everyone.

especially the weaker decks cant ocmpete anymore. Lol decks that beat it would cost upwards of at least 300k

magius · 13-03-2012 12:50:17

Sapphon a écrit :

Cossette a écrit :
Nerf or not the deck are OP only specialize deck can handle that power... this will really change the game play of everyone.
Not that much. Any fast high dmg deck destroy a Tempus (that's why they didnt trust high elo last week). Tempus wont change the game play of everyone (since many players are already playing fast high dmg decks). But it will change some things, yeah. The staff is already watching it closely.

Deduced that it is the case for Tempus due to high damage decks that are popular.

I wonder if the staff is interested to introduce hard counters for effects currently in the game that is not counterable (i.e. powder tokens, level, time counter, etc.). Hard counters are great versus meta-game (just like in MtG) but useless elsewhere and it requires a space in your deck, thus watering your deck down further.

NOTE: Hard counters normally are more powerful than soft counters but with very specific effects.

Interesting cards (if ever happens):

Time Stasis
Spell - Time
Turn counter cannot be modified.
Time Guemelite Non-Multiclass Mage: Turn counter = 2 for the duration of this spell.
Duration: 2 turns.
"It takes time to counter time"

Dampening
Action
Remove 3 powder tokens permanently from each characters. Remove extra 3 powder tokens permanently if a Nature or Water spell is in play.
"Dang it rained!"

Newbie Mistake
Action
Reduce the level of all characters by 3 permanently. If any characters' level is 0, those characters are tapped.
"Opps..."

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Sapphon · 13-03-2012 13:02:30

magius a écrit :

I wonder if the staff is interested to introduce hard counters for effects currently in the game that is not counterable (i.e. powder tokens, level, time counter, etc.). Hard counters are great versus meta-game (just like in MtG) but useless elsewhere and it requires a space in your deck, thus watering your deck down further.

The problem of hard counters is that the deck format isn't really great for this kind of stuff. Who will use a card that hard counter Tempus while they arent trusting the top ? It would create a "dead card" in your deck, and I dont think many competitive players can afford it at the moment.

Stormholt · 13-03-2012 13:34:41

As i already said,i dont think that creat counter cards will fix this poblem,it will only get worse,and again,if someone want to go to Top elo,gonna need this cards,and so the elo get always that same thing,same counter cards that everyone got.And other thing a counter card to tempus,would only work for tempus(why would i turn back the time when fighting aganist trakers?),and gonna be a counter only deck card,not just like Sentence or Extintion...I think that feerik shoul nerf these cards and fix thi poblem FAST.

Cossette · 13-03-2012 14:26:39

took me slower to reply, but i think before i say anything

Sapphon a écrit :

Cossette a écrit :
Nerf or not the deck are OP only specialize deck can handle that power... this will really change the game play of everyone.
Not that much. Any fast high dmg deck destroy a Tempus (that's why they didnt trust high elo last week). Tempus wont change the game play of everyone (since many players are already playing fast high dmg decks). But it will change some things, yeah. The staff is already watching it closely.

I'm sorry but i don't like being lead on what type of play i want to do, but this word is saying that

Any fast high dmg deck destroy a Tempus

so in order to win is to use this kind of deck? only few players can afford that kind of luxury

Tempus wont change the game play of everyone

It already have an impact, decks are changing... change is good but its loosing the essence of game play if there will be no more choices.

That what I'm seeing now people is either playing tempus or leaning to much on fast deck and high damage build (1 HKO), something im afraid to happen is when people are playing so linear and losing the variety of gameplay and also raising market price of those type of cards cause the demand is so high.

yes! i admit it im joining the fast(1 HKO)200/500k deck type cause that the only way i can compete.

i feel sorry for those players who cant buy or make new ones, its not a choice anymore.

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Leorio · 13-03-2012 15:22:18

Yep, in mainstream card games, they...

1. Have this thing called a side deck. Also, tournaments are 2/3 minimum.
2. Ban cards from tournament play that are too powerful.
3. Playtest most cards before printing them. I stress "most" cards...some sneak by like Rescue Rabbit in YGO since it was made by the English version and not the Japanese one.

MrLordi92 · 13-03-2012 15:39:36

Leorio a écrit :

Yep, in mainstream card games, they...
1. Have this thing called a side deck. Also, tournaments are 2/3 minimum.
2. Ban cards from tournament play that are too powerful.
3. Playtest most cards before printing them. I stress "most" cards...some sneak by like Rescue Rabbit in YGO since it was made by the English version and not the Japanese one.

From what I understand Yu-Gi-Oh, at least the English side of it, doesn't playtest for the format after the sets release. Magic always does it, and tests for multiple formats, as well.

Ryken · 13-03-2012 16:09:05

MrLordi92 a écrit :

Leorio a écrit :
Yep, in mainstream card games, they...
1. Have this thing called a side deck. Also, tournaments are 2/3 minimum.
2. Ban cards from tournament play that are too powerful.
3. Playtest most cards before printing them. I stress "most" cards...some sneak by like Rescue Rabbit in YGO since it was made by the English version and not the Japanese one.
From what I understand Yu-Gi-Oh, at least the English side of it, doesn't playtest for the format after the sets release. Magic always does it, and tests for multiple formats, as well.

Which explains artifacts those some odd years ago.

...wait.

Leorio · 13-03-2012 18:53:52

Correct, the JP side decides what is tournament-banned and as such is responsible for play-testing.

CAPTUSA · 13-03-2012 19:50:52

soulst3al3r a écrit :

Cossette a écrit :
Nerf or not the deck are OP only specialize deck can handle that power... this will really change the game play of everyone.
especially the weaker decks cant ocmpete anymore. Lol decks that beat it would cost upwards of at least 300k

Lmao at you, did u hear what u just said? "especially the weaker decks cant compete anymore" duhhhhh weaker decks can only compete with other weaker decks, weaker decks wasn't made to compete with strong decks, plain and simple.....ppl who continue to be free players, and refuse to buy feez, will always fall behind the dedicated, money spending players!
!

CAPTUSA · 13-03-2012 19:57:10

Sapphon a écrit :

Cossette a écrit :
Nerf or not the deck are OP only specialize deck can handle that power... this will really change the game play of everyone.
Not that much. Any fast high dmg deck destroy a Tempus (that's why they didnt trust high elo last week). Tempus wont change the game play of everyone (since many players are already playing fast high dmg decks). But it will change some things, yeah. The staff is already watching it closely.

I agree 100% I was playing Tempus last week, and lost to eclipse, demons, noz blast, weapons at will, and etc, and i turn boosted alot, and it still wasn't enough to get me a win, every deck has their strengths aswell as their weakness, plain and simple, no one deck can beat every other deck, it just doesn't work like that, alot of you guys are winding because you guys are free players, and expect a cheaper deck to compete with a more expensive deck, invest some money into a good/great deck, and you'll actually see the tempus aren't op'd at all!

soulst3al3r · 13-03-2012 22:40:33

CAPTUSA a écrit :

soulst3al3r a écrit :
Cossette a écrit :
Nerf or not the deck are OP only specialize deck can handle that power... this will really change the game play of everyone.
especially the weaker decks cant ocmpete anymore. Lol decks that beat it would cost upwards of at least 300k
Lmao at you, did u hear what u just said? "especially the weaker decks cant compete anymore" duhhhhh weaker decks can only compete with other weaker decks, weaker decks wasn't made to compete with strong decks, plain and simple.....ppl who continue to be free players, and refuse to buy feez, will always fall behind the dedicated, money spending players!
!

we can be dedicated as free players and I play just for fun anyway. Im not like you who revel in your addiction by spending 700 dollars into this game. Pay2pwn players really shouldn't talk sh*t to anyone if their skills are relegated simply in the expensive cards they have. So please just shut up cuz I dont need to talk to ppl like you.

soulst3al3r · 13-03-2012 22:41:36

CAPTUSA a écrit :

Sapphon a écrit :
Cossette a écrit :
Nerf or not the deck are OP only specialize deck can handle that power... this will really change the game play of everyone.
Not that much. Any fast high dmg deck destroy a Tempus (that's why they didnt trust high elo last week). Tempus wont change the game play of everyone (since many players are already playing fast high dmg decks). But it will change some things, yeah. The staff is already watching it closely.

I agree 100% I was playing Tempus last week, and lost to eclipse, demons, noz blast, weapons at will, and etc, and i turn boosted alot, and it still wasn't enough to get me a win, every deck has their strengths aswell as their weakness, plain and simple, no one deck can beat every other deck, it just doesn't work like that, alot of you guys are winding because you guys are free players, and expect a cheaper deck to compete with a more expensive deck, invest some money into a good/great deck, and you'll actually see the tempus aren't op'd at all!

Say all you want but that nerf hammer is dropping and dropping....saying that you suck and you lose a lot with an OP deck isnt helping your case.

MrLordi92 · 14-03-2012 01:16:33

Ryken a écrit :

MrLordi92 a écrit :
Leorio a écrit :
Yep, in mainstream card games, they...
1. Have this thing called a side deck. Also, tournaments are 2/3 minimum.
2. Ban cards from tournament play that are too powerful.
3. Playtest most cards before printing them. I stress "most" cards...some sneak by like Rescue Rabbit in YGO since it was made by the English version and not the Japanese one.
From what I understand Yu-Gi-Oh, at least the English side of it, doesn't playtest for the format after the sets release. Magic always does it, and tests for multiple formats, as well.
Which explains artifacts those some odd years ago.
...wait.

I'm assuming you meant he synergy with Skullclamp and Archbound Ravager? The system's not perfect. Memory Jar slipped by many years ago, Lin Sivvi after that, and Jace, the Mindsculptor and Stoneforge Mystic each slipped by as well. But think of it, Magic's 5 standard bannings to Yu-Gi-Oh's... 40?

CAPTUSA · 14-03-2012 18:05:10

soulst3al3r a écrit :

CAPTUSA a écrit :
Sapphon a écrit :
Not that much. Any fast high dmg deck destroy a Tempus (that's why they didnt trust high elo last week). Tempus wont change the game play of everyone (since many players are already playing fast high dmg decks). But it will change some things, yeah. The staff is already watching it closely.

I agree 100% I was playing Tempus last week, and lost to eclipse, demons, noz blast, weapons at will, and etc, and i turn boosted alot, and it still wasn't enough to get me a win, every deck has their strengths aswell as their weakness, plain and simple, no one deck can beat every other deck, it just doesn't work like that, alot of you guys are winding because you guys are free players, and expect a cheaper deck to compete with a more expensive deck, invest some money into a good/great deck, and you'll actually see the tempus aren't op'd at all!
Say all you want but that nerf hammer is dropping and dropping....saying that you suck and you lose a lot with an OP deck isnt helping your case.

U can't beat me....so everything u just said is irrelevant!

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