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#151 11-03-2012 12:55:49

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Re : Nehantic Receptacle/Doloreann

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Glad to see my initial reaction to the OP nature of tempus is being realized.

I honestly don't see how I can play this game much longer. It has turned into "who can do 20-30 damage" faster in the first 3 turns. There isn't much strategy involved, it's just a big beat down card game. That is not fun.

Personally I have always loved the nomads cause of the egyptian theme but they seem to be the cards that get nerfed the most, and have a ridiculous strategy that can't compete with beat down decks. And now everyone carries "sentenced" to easily counter any nomad/healing deck. Healing is worthless.

Feerik obviously do not test these cards, they are a small company and do not have the required staff to balance the game. Ultimately this will be their downfall. I have stated sometime in 2011 that this game won't last more than a year at their current strategy of new OP cards every week (in this case super super OP omfg nerf it already).

I do not find it fun anymore to come up with new strategies. I've spent over 200 bucks on this game in 2010 and now every single card I obtained is obsolete (and mind you I never got a single legendary out of the hundreds of boosters I opened).

There are awesome games I'm looking forward to this year coming out very soon. I can say I will never come back to Eredan again.

I will be one of the first to say I am stepping down. This game is not fun anymore.

$200 is alot, but I Spent over $700 On This Game Bcuz it's my hobby, but 2Bad Bye then...Eredan Is Wayyy 2 Funn 4 me 2 Quit!


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#152 11-03-2012 13:41:34

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CAPTUSA a écrit :
Norad IV a écrit :

Glad to see my initial reaction to the OP nature of tempus is being realized.

I honestly don't see how I can play this game much longer. It has turned into "who can do 20-30 damage" faster in the first 3 turns. There isn't much strategy involved, it's just a big beat down card game. That is not fun.

Personally I have always loved the nomads cause of the egyptian theme but they seem to be the cards that get nerfed the most, and have a ridiculous strategy that can't compete with beat down decks. And now everyone carries "sentenced" to easily counter any nomad/healing deck. Healing is worthless.

Feerik obviously do not test these cards, they are a small company and do not have the required staff to balance the game. Ultimately this will be their downfall. I have stated sometime in 2011 that this game won't last more than a year at their current strategy of new OP cards every week (in this case super super OP omfg nerf it already).

I do not find it fun anymore to come up with new strategies. I've spent over 200 bucks on this game in 2010 and now every single card I obtained is obsolete (and mind you I never got a single legendary out of the hundreds of boosters I opened).

There are awesome games I'm looking forward to this year coming out very soon. I can say I will never come back to Eredan again.

I will be one of the first to say I am stepping down. This game is not fun anymore.

$200 is alot, but I Spent over $700 On This Game Bcuz it's my hobby, but 2Bad Bye then...Eredan Is Wayyy 2 Funn 4 me 2 Quit!

oh good 4 u have fun playing a game using a brainless strat


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#153 11-03-2012 13:45:54

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Norad IV a écrit :

Glad to see my initial reaction to the OP nature of tempus is being realized.

I honestly don't see how I can play this game much longer. It has turned into "who can do 20-30 damage" faster in the first 3 turns. There isn't much strategy involved, it's just a big beat down card game. That is not fun.

Personally I have always loved the nomads cause of the egyptian theme but they seem to be the cards that get nerfed the most, and have a ridiculous strategy that can't compete with beat down decks. And now everyone carries "sentenced" to easily counter any nomad/healing deck. Healing is worthless.

Feerik obviously do not test these cards, they are a small company and do not have the required staff to balance the game. Ultimately this will be their downfall. I have stated sometime in 2011 that this game won't last more than a year at their current strategy of new OP cards every week (in this case super super OP omfg nerf it already).

I do not find it fun anymore to come up with new strategies. I've spent over 200 bucks on this game in 2010 and now every single card I obtained is obsolete (and mind you I never got a single legendary out of the hundreds of boosters I opened).

There are awesome games I'm looking forward to this year coming out very soon. I can say I will never come back to Eredan again.

I will be one of the first to say I am stepping down. This game is not fun anymore.

$200 is alot, but I Spent over $700 On This Game Bcuz it's my hobby, but 2Bad Bye then...Eredan Is Wayyy 2 Funn 4 me 2 Quit!

oh good 4 u have fun playing a game using a brainless strat

You're serious? With WaW/IHAS out there? With Nehants and 'put X corruptions and let Vital Syphon do the rest' out there? With Pirate Golems stacking endless Arms so they can oneshot with Firon? Foamy/Craftsman? Avalonian Lifegain Queen? How much thought does it require to run any of those? I'll answer for you; not much. And out of ALL of those, THIS is the one with the brainless strat?

Not saying I don't agree, but come on; half the decks in this game require little to no thought. Least not anymore. hmm


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#154 11-03-2012 13:49:48

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$200 is alot, but I Spent over $700 On This Game Bcuz it's my hobby, but 2Bad Bye then...Eredan Is Wayyy 2 Funn 4 me 2 Quit!

oh good 4 u have fun playing a game using a brainless strat

You're serious? With WaW/IHAS out there? With Nehants and 'put X corruptions and let Vital Syphon do the rest' out there? With Pirate Golems stacking endless Arms so they can oneshot with Firon? Foamy/Craftsman? Avalonian Lifegain Queen? How much thought does it require to run any of those? I'll answer for you; not much. And out of ALL of those, THIS is the one with the brainless strat?

Not saying I don't agree, but come on; half the decks in this game require little to no thought. Least not anymore. hmm

nope taking advantage of the now op tempuses  is brainless and what you call corruptions brainless thats daft man real daft   its not all about vital syphons this days you know and what do you think using brute force is strategy dont make me laugh

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#155 11-03-2012 14:06:59

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oh good 4 u have fun playing a game using a brainless strat

You're serious? With WaW/IHAS out there? With Nehants and 'put X corruptions and let Vital Syphon do the rest' out there? With Pirate Golems stacking endless Arms so they can oneshot with Firon? Foamy/Craftsman? Avalonian Lifegain Queen? How much thought does it require to run any of those? I'll answer for you; not much. And out of ALL of those, THIS is the one with the brainless strat?

Not saying I don't agree, but come on; half the decks in this game require little to no thought. Least not anymore. hmm

nope taking advantage of the now op tempuses  is brainless and what you call corruptions brainless thats daft man real daft   its not all about vital syphons this days you know and what do you think using brute force is strategy dont make me laugh

You may think it's daft, but it's not...so maybe it's daft to think what i said was daft, hmmm? tongue In all reality, it's fact. Check it; you have 5 cards in your hand each turn. Unless you have Terror/Narc or the new Legendary Nehant (unless there's another way that I don't know of) you can only attach 2 corruptions to someone per turn. So, attach away. Then, guess what? You move on. The ONLY thing you gotta make sure of is that Desolation of the Heart is attached to them before they die. The whole point of the deck is to lay as many corruptions on each person as you can. That's it. There's nothing more to it. I'd say that's Corruption Nehants in a nutshell, but I don't think it's enough to fill even that. GG.

And I haven't played with/against the new Tempus, but I can't imagine them being any less brainless then anything else.

Oh, the brute force comment? I'm not sure exactly what you were trying to say (and that could be because your sentence structure is so poor, but I don't know) but I don't think it had anything to do with what I said. So... *shrug*


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#156 11-03-2012 14:13:20

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You're serious? With WaW/IHAS out there? With Nehants and 'put X corruptions and let Vital Syphon do the rest' out there? With Pirate Golems stacking endless Arms so they can oneshot with Firon? Foamy/Craftsman? Avalonian Lifegain Queen? How much thought does it require to run any of those? I'll answer for you; not much. And out of ALL of those, THIS is the one with the brainless strat?

Not saying I don't agree, but come on; half the decks in this game require little to no thought. Least not anymore. hmm

nope taking advantage of the now op tempuses  is brainless and what you call corruptions brainless thats daft man real daft   its not all about vital syphons this days you know and what do you think using brute force is strategy dont make me laugh

You may think it's daft, but it's not...so maybe it's daft to think what i said was daft, hmmm? tongue In all reality, it's fact. Check it; you have 5 cards in your hand each turn. Unless you have Terror/Narc or the new Legendary Nehant (unless there's another way that I don't know of) you can only attach 2 corruptions to someone per turn. So, attach away. Then, guess what? You move on. The ONLY thing you gotta make sure of is that Desolation of the Heart is attached to them before they die. The whole point of the deck is to lay as many corruptions on each person as you can. That's it. There's nothing more to it. I'd say that's Corruption Nehants in a nutshell, but I don't think it's enough to fill even that. GG.

And I haven't played with/against the new Tempus, but I can't imagine them being any less brainless then anything else.

Oh, the brute force comment? I'm not sure exactly what you were trying to say (and that could be because your sentence structure is so poor, but I don't know) but I don't think it had anything to do with what I said. So... *shrug*

yep you really don't get it do you? brainless wow what we just live by using vitals? man i think you don't get what control is your making laugh because you don't know even the half of it sure deso is needed but sometimes i just throw them out i like deflecting  op attacks and just don't rely on a single card to win the game and what you shown to me that's all you know about them you wow you may strike my sentences but your reasoning is so poor your insulting me tongue

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#157 11-03-2012 14:35:02

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nope taking advantage of the now op tempuses  is brainless and what you call corruptions brainless thats daft man real daft   its not all about vital syphons this days you know and what do you think using brute force is strategy dont make me laugh

You may think it's daft, but it's not...so maybe it's daft to think what i said was daft, hmmm? tongue In all reality, it's fact. Check it; you have 5 cards in your hand each turn. Unless you have Terror/Narc or the new Legendary Nehant (unless there's another way that I don't know of) you can only attach 2 corruptions to someone per turn. So, attach away. Then, guess what? You move on. The ONLY thing you gotta make sure of is that Desolation of the Heart is attached to them before they die. The whole point of the deck is to lay as many corruptions on each person as you can. That's it. There's nothing more to it. I'd say that's Corruption Nehants in a nutshell, but I don't think it's enough to fill even that. GG.

And I haven't played with/against the new Tempus, but I can't imagine them being any less brainless then anything else.

Oh, the brute force comment? I'm not sure exactly what you were trying to say (and that could be because your sentence structure is so poor, but I don't know) but I don't think it had anything to do with what I said. So... *shrug*

yep you really don't get it do you? brainless wow what we just live by using vitals? man i think you don't get what control is your making laugh because you don't know even the half of it sure deso is needed but sometimes i just throw them out i like deflecting  op attacks and just don't rely on a single card to win the game and what you shown to me that's all you know about them you wow you may strike my sentences but your reasoning is so poor your insulting me tongue

Wow. Okay. You just THROW Desolations out there, just cause? You like deflecting OP attacks? What are flying frak are you talking about?

My favorite deck I EVER played was Corruption Nehants, with Carkass. Sure, he was an alternate way of winning. This was before the new release though, but after Terror/Narc. Sure, that's another way of winning...I GUESS. It doesn't take away from the fact that Vital Syphon is STILL the best way to win. It's the ONE CARD that causes the most damage once those corruptions are piled on. And after EVERYTHING you've said you STILL haven't given me an example on how YOU play them, or how you THINK they should be played (since I don't know if you actually play them or not). Sure, you got My Name is Legion/Overconfidence out there to help, but guess what's actually sold out (at least at the time of me writing this)? That's right! Vital Syphon!!

And I wasn't even TRYING to start a fight, but if you're gonna throw out insults I may as well call you out on this. I do realize you can use a very slow discard strategy with Terror/Narc and a slow burn with the Legendary Nehant/Legion/Overconfidence, but Vital Syphon remains the more effective way to kill your opponents.

If there's another way, please, BY ALL MEANS, post it. I'd love to hear it. And if you say "if you don't see it, that's your problem" I guess I'll know my answer. tongue

EDIT: Is your problem because Vital Syphon is one card and you don't like relying on it?

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#158 11-03-2012 16:04:44

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Re : Nehantic Receptacle/Doloreann

Now now you two stop fighting .no need to make this deck more violent than it is now (and with topic that arnt related to the releases) hmm

I think both of you just have different opinion on the word "no brainer decks". In ryken's idea, corruption is more or less like this because of their playstyle (attaching corruptions,vital syphon, DMR+ DP and etc, i don't play nehants so idk all of them) ,while jackal19 thinks that corruption are not no brainers because how you attach your spells, in what order and on whom are important decisions too.

That said it's kinda weird calling decks "no brainer" because of their playstyle. Shadow mages TTtSS, mechanist golem equip items, nehant mages attach corruption, these are how decks SHOULD be played... the difference that make these decks win or lose in a match is how one construct their deck, how the cards turn out and etc.

IMO Real no-brainer decks IMO are those that rely SOLELY on WAW,IHAS (dump everything, use card, rinse and repeat) and Corruption mages don't fall onto this category with vital syphons. They're more like the shadow mages, which has TTtSS as their main card, but can't win SOLELY with it. You still need other spells to support your main card.

As for the new tempus... I don't think they are no-brainers (you still need to know how to play your cards), but overpowered?? Yes.


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#159 11-03-2012 16:22:47

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You know tempus might be OP but I would like to see how they'd compete against my nehant mages (including Nehantic Receptacle lvl3). So when I play against a Tempus deck (with Dolo ofc) I'll tell you who won smile Hopefully I'll win.


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#160 11-03-2012 16:24:34

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You know tempus might be OP but I would like to see how they'd compete against my nehant mages (including Nehantic Receptacle lvl3). So when I play against a Tempus deck (with Dolo ofc) I'll tell you who won smile Hopefully I'll win.

oh pls don't fan it anymore i stopped arguing because it might burn this topic i mean


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#161 11-03-2012 16:39:02

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Ok I'll stop for you then smile


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#162 11-03-2012 17:28:05

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$200 is alot, but I Spent over $700 On This Game Bcuz it's my hobby, but 2Bad Bye then...Eredan Is Wayyy 2 Funn 4 me 2 Quit!

Didn't know high school dropout could even make that much.


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#163 11-03-2012 17:57:52

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$200 is alot, but I Spent over $700 On This Game Bcuz it's my hobby, but 2Bad Bye then...Eredan Is Wayyy 2 Funn 4 me 2 Quit!

Didn't know high school dropout could even make that much.

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#164 11-03-2012 18:39:34

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[Sapphon : And you get a warning for your impressive humour and your amazing sense of repartee. Congrats.]


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#165 11-03-2012 18:49:46

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#166 11-03-2012 19:18:07

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This seriously has gotten way out of control.  High school degrees and mothers should have never been brought into this.  Can a moderator please look at some of these posts and jump in


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#167 11-03-2012 19:30:35

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This seriously has gotten way out of control.  High school degrees and mothers should have never been brought into this.  Can a moderator please look at some of these posts and jump in

well he might be banned but the ones inciting him should get punished by a little too


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#168 11-03-2012 20:50:27

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I wuz just minding my biz, until this idiot came at me, and mods have way more to worry about then banning ppl from the forum!


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#169 12-03-2012 03:43:28

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huh.. i think i would be very poor if they released a zil legendary. T_T


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#170 12-03-2012 04:32:25

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The people have spoken, ban the cards, nerf em, or lose money. Your choice, devs.


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#171 12-03-2012 06:57:03

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they are counter.able... ^_^..

use some of the Act 1 cards ^_^.. haha..


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#172 12-03-2012 08:06:51

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All the cards you are referring to are currently tournament-banned.
That means there really is no counter to tempus at the moment.

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#173 12-03-2012 15:46:31

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Leorio a écrit :

All the cards you are referring to are currently tournament-banned.
That means there really is no counter to tempus at the moment.


is [card]Counterspell[/card] or [card]Magic Shield[/card] banned on the tournament?? ^_^


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#174 12-03-2012 16:25:32

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Leorio a écrit :

All the cards you are referring to are currently tournament-banned.
That means there really is no counter to tempus at the moment.

With my Eclipse deck, I faced a few tempus (4 I think), and still have to lose once...

They hit hard, just hit harder, and faster. OHKO them, or finish them out of combat. They're still squishy. Counter celerity (obesity helps a lot), and if you can't, try to survive the initial damage, when the turn count is still in the "manageable" area, between 10-15 (Solaris can help here). Don't hesitate to press the big red button marked "Supernova" if that spells doom for their line and at least one of your guys can survive it.

This is just an example. They're strong indeed, but there are counters, though I must admit it's no good being a control-ish deck nowadays smile.


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#175 12-03-2012 16:28:18

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All the cards you are referring to are currently tournament-banned.
That means there really is no counter to tempus at the moment.

With my Eclipse deck, I faced a few tempus (4 I think), and still have to lose once...

They hit hard, just hit harder, and faster. OHKO them, or finish them out of combat. They're still squishy. Counter celerity (obesity helps a lot), and if you can't, try to survive the initial damage, when the turn count is still in the "manageable" area, between 10-15 (Solaris can help here). Don't hesitate to press the big red button marked "Supernova" if that spells doom for their line and at least one of your guys can survive it.

This is just an example. They're strong indeed, but there are counters, though I must admit it's no good being a control-ish deck nowadays smile.

I have a feeling that this Tempus main weakness would be a super fast Noz Blast (Prophet-Archmage Anryenna-Erevent) deck (with RoD, Dragon's Breath and Drowning)... have not tried it yet as I have not faced the Tempus in Level Rooms.

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