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2-3 damage nova is average for a chain
compare it to another chain, what else can give you more than 3 damage without several condition?
got 0 dmg? too bad, try next time
got 10 dmg? ***bip*** opp screaming WTF
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Well, Ishaia is in completely different stage with nomads, it costs 200k+ and money=power in every game. Ishaia no cure
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Magic is imbalance in this game. No perfect counter against magic dmg except playing mage. Which only put up to an equal state mage vs mage.
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Nomads is kind of witch-blade deck, or we may say it is priest-blade. Magic damage using nova, heal using divine light, and also combined with additional hit.
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Although there-may-not-be any competing ELO deck, there's a way to maximize it's utility. That's the purpose of this discussion
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2-3 damage nova is average for a chain
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Nomads is kind of witch-blade deck, or we may say it is priest-blade. Magic damage using nova, heal using divine light, and also combined with additional hit.
Sorry but I literally laughed out loud when I read this. Nomads are in NO FUCKING WAY comparable to witchblades, what are you smoking man? lol, LOL.
Witchblades can do better magic AND physical damage, PERIOD. there is no debate.
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Nomads Priest stall decks are the best bet against WB, or the old TG with suicide Tomb/Grave.- Eclipse / Demi-Eclipse are still effective, I reach 1800-1900 a week with DemiClipse
Dernière modification par GGuti (09-03-2011 09:40:20)
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Nomads Priest stall decks are the best bet against WB, or the old TG with suicide Tomb/Grave.- Eclipse / Demi-Eclipse are still effective, I reach 1800-1900 a week with DemiClipse
What is demi-eclipse deck?
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GGuti a écrit :Nomads Priest stall decks are the best bet against WB, or the old TG with suicide Tomb/Grave.- Eclipse / Demi-Eclipse are still effective, I reach 1900-1950 a week with DemiClipse
What is demi-eclipse deck?
not as versatile as a full eclipse (Iol, Dja, Kara) but it has more immediate power, more chains, and less restrictions
Sphinx Kara Djamena
2 Fury potion
3 Solaris
3 Obesity
2 Assasination
1 TTD
2 Life devourers
1 ascetic
1 Storm
2 Fallback
2 Under the sun
1 Solar Anger
thats what I ran and reached between 1900/1950 ELO every week, the tweaks would be adding scimitars instead of Pots, or Cursed Bigblades, or adding 2/3x Love & War combo (i'm not a fan). TTD + Assa is mainly to OHKO / 2HKO Ish's. Whoever said that fallbacks doesnt help against Saps is wrong, Obesity + fallbacks means 6 def, of course you can throw a divine light
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I've tried ascetic and found it rather useless
let's say during the first 3 turn, kotoba team equip all of them with wakiz/emperor
then my character already heavily damaged
then for turn 4+, i won't have any chance to use ascetic since if I use it, my character is dead, and the opponents is not.
while my other characters must be equally both died with the opponents (even after their weapons discarded) since my characters already heavily damaged during the first 3 turn
so, it's better off to just hit hard and make it into points competition
Dernière modification par uhuy5 (09-03-2011 10:02:15)
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I've tried ascetic and found it rather useless
let's say during the first 3 turn, kotoba team equip all of them with wakiz/emperor
then my character already heavily damagedthen for turn 4+, i won't have any chance to use ascetic since if I use it, my character is dead, and the opponents is not.
while my other characters must be equally both died since already heavily damaged during the first 3 turnso, it's better off to just hit hard and make it into points competition
it is situational but it helps a LOT against paladin hammers. kots really rely on their equipment, and in my experience are the easiest match for Nomads.
Trying to do more dmg having 0 defense is just crazy, unless you are battling priests or discard decks
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uhuy5 a écrit :I've tried ascetic and found it rather useless
let's say during the first 3 turn, kotoba team equip all of them with wakiz/emperor
then my character already heavily damagedthen for turn 4+, i won't have any chance to use ascetic since if I use it, my character is dead, and the opponents is not.
while my other characters must be equally both died since already heavily damaged during the first 3 turnso, it's better off to just hit hard and make it into points competition
it is situational but it helps a LOT against paladin hammers. kots really rely on their equipment, and in my experience are the easiest match for Nomads
so, is it useless? i guess so, better using solaris to cut up def
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GGuti a écrit :uhuy5 a écrit :I've tried ascetic and found it rather useless
let's say during the first 3 turn, kotoba team equip all of them with wakiz/emperor
then my character already heavily damagedthen for turn 4+, i won't have any chance to use ascetic since if I use it, my character is dead, and the opponents is not.
while my other characters must be equally both died since already heavily damaged during the first 3 turnso, it's better off to just hit hard and make it into points competition
it is situational but it helps a LOT against paladin hammers. kots really rely on their equipment, and in my experience are the easiest match for Nomads
so, is it useless? i guess so, better using solaris to cut up def
Situational cards are better in than out, I rather have a ascetic on every nomad deck with solarians than not. I also rather have Anathematize in every deck that cant beat stall or IHAS without it, even tho I rarely face them
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uhuy5 a écrit :GGuti a écrit :it is situational but it helps a LOT against paladin hammers. kots really rely on their equipment, and in my experience are the easiest match for Nomads
so, is it useless? i guess so, better using solaris to cut up def
Situational cards are better in than out, I rather have a ascetic on every nomad deck with solarians than not. I also rather have Anathematize in every deck that cant beat stall or IHAS without it, even tho I rarely face them
this is about being compititive
which is being carefully prepared for everything
i would also do the same
on level room maybe u just cant leave those card
but on elo room it would be a different
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here is my old nomad build (got me to 1900+ elo)
Sphinx
Kararine
Djamena
3 Solaris
3 Obesity
3 all is fair
3 and war
1 solar anger
2 under the sun
1 assassination
1 Time to die
1 A new start
1 scheme
1 watcher
the whole idea around it is easy: get under the sun equipped(if needed) use solaris and obese to stay alive, time to die/ assassination for the big kill and cycle a new start to keep using solaris to keep staying alive. there is lots of room to subsitute novas and anything else you might need depending on the meta.
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here is my old nomad build (got me to 1900+ elo)
Sphinx
Kararine
Djamena3 Solaris
3 Obesity
3 all is fair
3 and war
1 solar anger
2 under the sun
1 assassination
1 Time to die
1 A new start
1 scheme
1 watcherthe whole idea around it is easy: get under the sun equipped(if needed) use solaris and obese to stay alive, time to die/ assassination for the big kill and cycle a new start to keep using solaris to keep staying alive. there is lots of room to subsitute novas and anything else you might need depending on the meta.
err I don't have money for ANS...
but the idea is great, maybe it's better with solar's anger since it's permanent bonus, compared to all is fair combo
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how do you kill ishaia with nomads?
With 2 manipulation attached, then constant healing from overwhelming, she is so unkillable. Even small potion of seduction gives her chain with +4 def, and of course council decision is fatal when it cancels solar's anger
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